It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.


Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.


What would happen if NK detonates a nuke? Japan and South Korea get their own nukes?

page: 1

log in


posted on Oct, 6 2006 @ 02:20 PM

In addition, a test would hold geopolitical ramifications for the northeast Asian region, experts say, and for international efforts to keep the proliferation genie in its bottle. "The political effects of a nuclear test would be at least as consequential - and destabilizing - as any technological leap it might provide the North Korean nuclear program," says Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association in Washington.

A test would shake up northeast Asia, sending shock waves through South Korea and possibly inciting a regional arms race - causing Japan and even South Korea to consider it a necessity to reverse course and develop their own nuclear deterrents. That, experts say, would very likely mean that the international nonproliferation regime is dead.

p>North Korea has claimed since 2005 that it has a nuclear arsenal, and intelligence specialists believe Pyongyang probably possesses enough plutonium for as many as 10 average-size plutonium bombs. A missile test Pyongyang conducted this summer demonstrated its continuing progress in missile technology, but experts say it still does not have the capability - or a miniaturized weapon - to deliver a weapon by missile.

Even now, just because North Korea is threatening to test a nuclear weapon, Japan may well do away with Article Nine of the post-World War II "peace" constitution that bans Japan from sending its "self-defense" forces to fight foreign wars.

If North Korea goes through with a test, Japanese scientists are likely to complete the process of building nuclear weapons. Kim, the Korean defense analyst, estimates that Japan could become a nuclear power within months, despite its aversion to any form of nuclear warfare carried over from the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Such eventualities explain why some experts insist that the real impact of North Korea's test threat would be on global nonproliferation efforts.

"The real challenges are yet to come," says Pollack. "We have to ask if the fact of a North Korea test triggers other responses that fundamentally mean that the nonproliferation regime as we know it has ceased to exist."

I doubt there be a war over this test. But it would make Japan and South Korea especially to reconsider their policies towards North Korea. South Korea make cancel the reconciliation with North Korea. Japan may get its own nukes, even though its a victim of such weapon. Not to mention it may not become self-defense force anymore.

[edit on 6-10-2006 by deltaboy]

posted on Oct, 6 2006 @ 03:56 PM
Having listened to a few commentators on radio news/current affairs services on this latest drama i am doubtful that Sth Korea would go for a nuclear arsenal. Sth Korean (excluding the government) don't feel that their fellow Koreans would attack them with nuclear weapons and i agree. Nth Korea is aiming its hostility towards the USA, no one else. Japan may look at going nuclear but i think its conservative nature and its constitution would not see this occur.

Nth Korea isn't doing anything different to what many countries did duing the cold war, however what is of concern is its very secretive government and the lack of willingness to talk. I have a feeling that Nth Korea is extremely worried hence its actions of late of being attacked. Santions and other measures taken of late are not helping and i feel that only by easing the pressure on Nth Korea will this situation resolve itself.

We saw many itching fingers in the cold war, only good diplomatic measures or at times luck prevented nuclear war. It seems people have not learnt from the past. I pray that we don't see mushroom clouds due to this latest crisis.

posted on Oct, 6 2006 @ 05:09 PM

You are on to something...good post

Japan's government is just itching for an excuse to drop out of the NPT and start building up there nuclear arsenal.

North Korea's test may just be what triggers this event

If this happens, China will have even more of an excuse to seize control over Taiwan.

Looks like North Korea is in a win win situation.

posted on Oct, 6 2006 @ 06:26 PM
I imagine that just like Israel nukes supported by the US, we will give complementary nukes to Sk and Japan and they do not have to say that they have them.

[edit on 6-10-2006 by marg6043]

posted on Oct, 6 2006 @ 06:43 PM
North Korea has a nuclear weapon? Well, that in itself is not much. The problem is that the US has unilaterally imposed trade restrictions on NK and had undermined its applications for aid from other countries by threatening to work harm to them if they help NK. Since Bush43 and team no longer acknowledge world norms as a guide for the conduct of America’s foreign relations, they have to take due notice. Bush43 egged on by AG Gonzales says the C-in-C job has no limits, written or traditional. And like the Pope, Bushr43 can declassify whatever he speaks, as in ex cathedra. What's Latin for White House?

Bush43 has “signed off” on over 800 Acts of Congress which is to say, he will not obey that part of the law he deigns to ignore. Now Congress is acting as if it was politically castrated, because those are unprecedented incursions into their province of power. I am not familiar with the so-called “sign off” and don’t really know anything about it. It sounds unconstitutional just by its name alone. If the president does not like a law, the Con says he should veto it. Otherwise, it seems his oath of office covers the rest. But the remarkably brilliant legal scholar, Attorney General Gonzales, the Neo Con’s Blackstone who will be quoted for generations to come, is rumored to have counseled Bush43 to cross his fingers behind his back when he was sworn into office.

[edit on 10/6/2006 by donwhite]

posted on Oct, 7 2006 @ 10:31 PM
As stated by experts and amateurs alike, a NK nuke test would re-align the balance of power in that part of the world overnight and cause a geopolitical tsunami it's safe to say. Also, let's not forget we have tens of thousands of US military personnel stationed in that region.

I think we need to bite the bullet and have a face-to-face with the North Koreans.

posted on Oct, 7 2006 @ 10:45 PM
I really dont see China attacking Taiwan using the NK nuke issue as an excuse. I see China becoming more engaged with NK if they actually pull off a testing a nuke. Why you ask? Quite simple, the Chinese are terrified of Japan becoming a nuclear power. You must remember Japan has consistantly beaten the Chinese in battles going back many years. The Chinese will be pissing in their pants thinking that Japan is about to go Nuclear. I think that is the way for the US to win this war of oneupsmanship. Begin bilateral talks with Japan to supply them with Nukes IF NK actually tests a nuke themselves. Now thats something I would love to see. How China and NK would react to that....

posted on Oct, 7 2006 @ 11:02 PM
Well if NK tests nukes then there would be harsh sanctions and NK's economy would be in worst condition than it is now.

Also, SK and Japan don't need to make nukes, they can just buy it from the States. Plus, we also back them if they need our help.

posted on Oct, 7 2006 @ 11:07 PM

Originally posted by amfirst
Well if NK tests nukes then there would be harsh sanctions and NK's economy would be in worst condition than it is now.

Also, SK and Japan don't need to make nukes, they can just buy it from the States. Plus, we also back them if they need our help.

I am sure we would supply them with Nukes with no cost to them whatsoever. As for sanctions he doesnt care about them. He lives large regardless and it doesnt matter to him how the real people live in NK.

posted on Oct, 7 2006 @ 11:13 PM
I almost want NK to test a nuke just so Japan can boost up their military and create nukes. Why?

Because I don't trust China and I want there to be a balance in that region. Even if it means cold war between Japan and China.

posted on Oct, 8 2006 @ 05:37 AM
It would be a grave mistake from US's perspective if Japan is armed with nukes.US used nuke weapon against Japan as every japanese remembers and the Japanese attack on the US navy was the main cause of the start of the pacific war as every American knows.I think the Japanese are very much eager to get nuke weapon and be freed from US occupation.friendship doesn't necessary last forever,when Japan gets nuke is the timing that US retreat from Asia.

posted on Oct, 9 2006 @ 03:49 PM
Japan would not nuke the Americans if they get hold of nuclear weapons, they have just grew their Ecnomic structure again which is one best in the world, they have no army at the moument to fight too, they are not gonna risk war to screw up their country.

top topics


log in