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Alien Abduction Experiences Don't Be Too Graphic!

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posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by g210b

Just finished reading.

SeenTooMuch: That's mindblowing! (in the positve meaning).


Never read anything as good like that and for once I put aside all judgement and really don't care if it is all true or not.

Thank you very much for shearing your experiences.



Thanks for the nice post and keeping an open mind when reading it,

Greatly appreciated,

STM

Mod Edit: Please Review this post----1-liners in this forum are getting out of hand.



[edit on 6-11-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]




posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 01:46 PM
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Glad to see you here STM!

I didn't want this debate to go on without you.

Mod Edit: Please Review this post----1-liners in this forum are getting out of hand.



[edit on 6-11-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by jbondo

Originally posted by SkyWay
God is ALWAYS the Creator when a child is conceived even when conception takes place between a man and woman. The development of the humanly conceived child in the womb is the work of the Holy Spirit -- the Spirit of Life. The only difference in the conception of Jesus is that there was no human male, so that Jesus would be the miraculous Divine and Human being that He is -- God in the flesh -- TRULY DIVINE AND HUMAN!


Excellent Post!!!!! I am voting you WAS for that one.


Thanks jbondo! I am so gratified that it is a WAS for a message about our Lord!

Mod Edit: Please Review this post----1-liners in this forum are getting out of hand.



[edit on 6-11-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay
Actually, that alien has done a very evil thing if he/it did in fact father two children with seentoomuch. He took the wife of another man and had sexual relations with her. The alien defiled the sacred union between seentoomuch and her husband. That is a morally depraved thing to do, and it shows the ill will these creatures have toward human beings. It may all be a deception though, and the children may not be seentoomuch's offspring. It may all just be a way to manipulate and control seentoomuch.


Hi Skyway!

Thanks for the post. True, I was married when the children were conceived. If I had been asked first he would've been turned down.

His view was this:

1. It was for the benefit of their limited gene pool on his planet;

2. He did not ask me first or speak with me at all due to their belief that all humans are primitive in their minds which is actually painful for them to connect to;

3. It was without emotional involvement, it wasn't his intention to desecrate anything, I wasn't to remember any of it;

That did however come about when my daughter spoke with me, which I am very happy that she did, but which creates this conflict we are posting about today.

4. He did at one point apologize to me saying that he had no idea, that he should have looked into my mind first.

The only way to look at this for me is that there are two beautiful people who wouldn't be alive if this had not happened, and that alone I would consider a blessing.

As for manipulating me through the children, I just have to go with what I experienced until it is proven to me that it is a ruse of theirs.

High regards,

STM



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
The Virgin Mary was betrothed to Joseph at the time she was taken and impregnated with a child named Jesus, from a spirit that was not her husband---the Holy Spirit.

Shouldn’t god be setting a better example if that type of practice is wrong? Or are there double standards in the kingdom of Heaven?


Hey Sleeper!

Thanks for the post! Not sure I totally understand your view, but I understand why you posted here, there does seem to be a lot of people playing judge almighty on this thread today. Thanks for coming to my defense,

Highest regards,

STM



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by seentoomuch
Hi Skyway!

Thanks for the post. True, I was married when the children were conceived. If I had been asked first he would've been turned down.

His view was this:

1. It was for the benefit of their limited gene pool on his planet;

2. He did not ask me first or speak with me at all due to their belief that all humans are primitive in their minds which is actually painful for them to connect to;

3. It was without emotional involvement, it wasn't his intention to desecrate anything, I wasn't to remember any of it;

That did however come about when my daughter spoke with me, which I am very happy that she did, but which creates this conflict we are posting about today.

4. He did at one point apologize to me saying that he had no idea, that he should have looked into my mind first.

The only way to look at this for me is that there are two beautiful people who wouldn't be alive if this had not happened, and that alone I would consider a blessing.

As for manipulating me through the children, I just have to go with what I experienced until it is proven to me that it is a ruse of theirs.

High regards,

STM


seentoomuch,

I hope you don't think that I am judging you in any way. However, I am disgusted by the conduct of the alien, and the way he just intruded between your husband and yourself. If anyone is primitive it is the aliens who lack the moral precepts that most humans have, such as respect for the spouse of another. Really, it is obvious to me that these aliens are morally inferior to man even considering the moral flaws in humans. That being the case, I consider the aliens unworthy to involve themselves with human beings. I hope you will cease all contact with that creature and ask Jesus to keep him/it away from you.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by jbondo


That pregnancy was not conceived via sexual intercourse. This is a completely different scenario.



Back two thousand years ago they didn’t understand the concept of abduction, but it was the same thing.

Mary was taken by an angle and returned having been inseminated, impregnated with Jesus. These things can happen within minutes and the person or those around them would never know.

Unless you were there there is no way of knowing if it was done through intercourse or invitro. Obviously those telling the story would never insinuate intercourse.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay


God is ALWAYS the Creator when a child is conceived even when conception takes place between a man and woman. The development of the humanly conceived child in the womb is the work of the Holy Spirit -- the Spirit of Life. The only difference in the conception of Jesus is that there was no human male, so that Jesus would be the miraculous Divine and Human being that He is -- God in the flesh -- TRULY DIVINE AND HUMAN!


I agree we only disagree on who god is.


Mod Edit: Please Review this post----1-liners in this forum are getting out of hand.



[edit on 6-11-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by SkyWay


God is ALWAYS the Creator when a child is conceived even when conception takes place between a man and woman. The development of the humanly conceived child in the womb is the work of the Holy Spirit -- the Spirit of Life. The only difference in the conception of Jesus is that there was no human male, so that Jesus would be the miraculous Divine and Human being that He is -- God in the flesh -- TRULY DIVINE AND HUMAN!


I agree we only disagree on who god is.


It all depends on whom we believe. I believe the Christian record on the creation of all things, including Man.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 03:39 PM
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We have a word for describing this mindset, which was prevalent in the older days: colonialism.

I'd have hoped that a very human-like ET, as they are, would have a bit more respect for us.

Basic message: technological superiority does not imply moral superiority. Was true in 1850, true today, and true in 20,050.



1. It was for the benefit of their limited gene pool on his planet;


aka "what's our oil doing under their sand?"



2. He did not ask me first or speak with me at all due to their belief that all humans are primitive in their minds which is actually painful for them to connect to;


aka "you can't reason with uncivilized primitives like them, old chap"




3. It was without emotional involvement, it wasn't his intention to desecrate anything, I wasn't to remember any of it;


aka: "it's just part of white man's civilizing burden to the world."

"Good looking ET officer seeking earth woman for pan-galactic affair. Must like long walks on the beach and interplanetary sightseeing" --- I mean if he bothered to *ask* I think he could have gotten a few HUNDRED phone numbers of girls no?

He did seem to have a conscience attack later, thankfully, so it's not completely black and white, for sure. I think the children are sincere.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 03:49 PM
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Ok everyone, lets try to post on topic from this point forward.

Thanks friends....


[edit on 3-11-2006 by kinglizard]



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by mbkennel
We have a word for describing this mindset, which was prevalent in the older days: colonialism.



Hey MBK!

Great post! I completely agree with you on the colonialism comparison, it totally fits the situation, perfect word to describe their attitude towards us. We need a good speaker on our behalf (maybe a good PR firm) to fix their misconception of us. Oh, wait, I forgot, most of this world is primitive, never mind.

Highest regards,

STM



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 04:37 PM
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I just wish i could have more information on the hybrids , but that's it, i dont have any i can recollect right now, just the stuff i writted before. Why? they are supouse doing iot,..dont know..for what reason..either... Maybe they just let me know the basis, we are doing it..you can see an example, that's it.

i wish i have more info on hybrids but i dont have any
hope someone could come with more info first hand



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 04:42 PM
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That's why I think official recognition is important.

I'm not blaming Earth governments so much. If there really are aliens out there and they're coming here, there's one thing for sure: they're illegal aliens.

Those who can sensibly relate to us have an obligation to try to talk openly with us, so
we treat each other with mutual respect for mutual benefit. If They need genetic material, they could try and ask us for it.



posted on Nov, 3 2006 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by mbkennel

That's why I think official recognition is important.

I'm not blaming Earth governments so much. If there really are aliens out there and they're coming here, there's one thing for sure: they're illegal aliens.

Those who can sensibly relate to us have an obligation to try to talk openly with us, so
we treat each other with mutual respect for mutual benefit. If They need genetic material, they could try and ask us for it.


Hi MBK!

I wonder if they have tried already. Try googling Val Thor, (I don't know how to put up articles in a post yet or I would do it) I saw him mentioned in a thread today. Could be possible that our gov just doesn't want to work with them.

Would love your thoughts on this,

STM


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posted on Nov, 4 2006 @ 09:47 AM
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STM, Alex and others, Do you think it is possible that some abductees are actually hybrids? The thought has crossed my mind that people that are intellectually gifted or have special abilities may be more "special" than we think! What are your thoughts?



posted on Nov, 4 2006 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by AlexDJ
I just wish i could have more information on the hybrids , but that's it, i dont have any i can recollect right now, just the stuff i writted before. Why? they are supouse doing iot,..dont know..for what reason..either... Maybe they just let me know the basis, we are doing it..you can see an example, that's it.

i wish i have more info on hybrids but i dont have any
hope someone could come with more info first hand


Hi ADJ:

Most of the info about hybrids on the net came up with some pretty intense stuff which varied greatly. That may be why there aren't many responses to your questions on them. Stick around though, over the weekend a different group of readers might stop in and give you some answers. In the meantime, give google.com a try.

P.S. Saw your posts on another thread asking why is Mexico such a hotspot lately. I read that it is due to all the geological activity at Popo and thereabouts and that the ships are flying in and out of the volcano and others to stabilize the situation.

STM



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 10:06 AM
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Hi Ya’ll:

Well that’s it, I’ve posted all my experiences, answered all the questions, and have learned much from ya’ll, and I thank you for that. Our co-exploration of my experiences has opened my eyes to many facets that I was not even aware of, which was invaluable to me. Many, many thanks!

Here is the intro to the new author of this thread, Angel of Mercy. At this point I feel that it is her turn to benefit from your insight and I hope that ya’ll agree. I feel that she, while learning about her own experiences will also be open to listening to other abductees’ accounts which is the purpose of this thread. I hope you will support her and to realize that she is new to posting so be easy on her in regards to methods, give her a few pointers now and then, but nicely.

I’ve put together a few posts of hers to cover her experiences and some questions that she has already responded to, an introduction of sorts to kick off her start on this thread. After reading her experiences I’m sure you’ll have a lot of questions for her as she’ll have for you! Answers, theories, opinions, the works always turn up on this thread, and so, go for it!

Thanks again for everything; I’ll stop in from time to time with my own questions for ya’ll!

STM

Posted by angelofmercy, on November 2, 2006 at 10:57 GMT

KBD. I too wonder if I have been abducted. Here goes (and this is reallllly hard for me).

I have just had my ninth birthday; it was the Fall of '74. I fall asleep and wake up in the middle of the night. I am standing in my Grandmother's yard (25 miles away from my home). In front of me stands a line of between 15 and 20 "little men". How do I know they are men? Because a certain part of anatomy that girls do not have (and a part that I had never seen before) is showing. The beings were approximately 4 feet tall with very white skin. I was not at all scared. The sky was bright but not like day. They communicated with me telepathically. I do not remember what they said except I felt very calm and peaceful and I was not scared. My family was not with me.

The next thing I remember I was waking up in my own bed. I went to school that morning and told my 4th grade teacher. I heard her in the hall later that afternoon telling several other teachers. They were laughing, except for my prior year’s teacher (Mrs. G) who knew something was not right. I was always considered a gifted child. I read at the age of 3 and was far more intelligent than my peers. I think Mrs. G knew I was not telling stories. I was never exposed to alien or occult TV and had never in my life seen a male's anatomy. I did not seem to think anything of this. I told my mom but she ignored me.

I cannot recall any other instances until I was 16. I was driving out in the country at night and saw a brilliant bright light. Next thing I know my car is in the middle of the road and my friend and I were dazed. We never talked about it. We just thought I lost control. I know I need regression hypnosis but I am too scared.

By the way, I am a well educated professional (RN with BA, minor in psych) who has never been on psych meds or seen a psychiatrist. I am not crazy but am a little hyper at times. I have had several "dreams" about aliens lately, but just passed them off. I sometimes become extremely sleepy when I am on ATS and reading about mind control and aliens.

I will also tell you that as a young child (under 5) I could communicate with my younger sister telepathically. I also remember that sometimes things around me moved around by themselves and I could get things where they needed to go by just thinking about it. What does everyone think?

AngelofMercy



posted on Nov, 5 2006 @ 10:09 AM
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Posted by jbondo, on November 2, 2006 at 14:06 GMT

So Angel, you say you have telekinesis and you can communicate with others telepathically? This is astounding to say the least!

Do you remember any connection to the military or talking to military personnel?

Can you still do these amazing things you did as a child?

Do you remember your pediatrician saying anything strange about you or looking bewildered after examining you?

If you had telekinesis, didn't you show it to your parents or anyone else?

Posted by angelofmercy, on November 3, 2006 at 19:11 GMT

Thanks for the replies everyone. To answer your questions jbondo, when I was little, I do not recall ever being taken to a military base. I do remember that my aunt by marriage (married to mom's brother) had a brother who was stationed somewhere near us and would come to visit. Mom said he really liked me and my sis and played with us a lot. I remember that he looked oriental and his name was Ken. He seemed nice and I was never scared of him. My play telephone did talk to me one time when he was at my grammas.

As for the abilities I had as a child, I only wish I could do those things today. I can say I am somewhat of a psychic and just "know" when something is not right and my friends tell me that when they think of me I will call them. I was very very young when I communicated with my sister telepathically. We still have an extremely strong connection and I know if something is wrong with her before she even calls (she had 5 strokes at 26 and had invasive breast cancer at 33). I have not been able to move things with my mind since I was about 3.

Regarding my physical state during this time, my Ped never found anything amiss when he checked me out and there is absolutely no evidence that I was ever sexually abused. He told my parents I was an unusually intelligent child who was quite precocious.

As for your last question regarding the telekinesis... I would only show my sister who was a year younger than me. She was my baby and my mom says I was a little mommy to her. One of my tricks was that when she communicated to me that she was thirsty; I would float her bottle into her crib! I was just a babe myself (probably 2 1/2 or 3, but I thought it was fun!

I vividly remember these things so even though they sound way out there, I know they happened. Thanks for your support and kind words, Angel

Posted by seentoomuch, on November 3, 2006 at 22:27 GMT

Hi Angel!

Would you mind telling us your ancestry? Trying to get a fix on what the aliens zero in on.

Also, I know you said that you would only show your little sister the telekinesis, but perhaps a time or two an adult got a glimpse? And if so, did they tell you it was not right to do that? Or, did the abilities leave as you learned to read, or when you started school? I'm looking for the reason behind the loss of these abilities, though some portion remains.

Am really intrigued by your memories,

Highest regards,

STM

Posted by angelofmercy, on November 4, 2006 at 08:18 GMT

Eddie.. Thanks for suggesting the exercises. I have tried some of them in the past and will definitely try the matter exercise soon. I frequently do know who is calling my home or office before I pick up the phone especially if I am quietly resting or not intently working on a project. I guess my problem with re-developing these abilities is that I am hyper and have a very difficult time concentrating on things other than work, family or the task at hand. It is very hard for me to sit quietly and concentrate. I feel like my mind is constantly thinking and processing and even have a hard time sleeping occasionally because, in the terms of close friends and family,” I think too much".

I can say that when my sister was sick with her strokes and cancer that I seemed much more in tune with her than I was when she was well. One time right after her third stroke (About 13 years ago), she had a headache. I wanted to try something so I put my hands on her head and prayed to God that the h/a would go away and concentrated on her head. She said my hands got really warm (I could feel them too) and that the headache went away. I was only successful that one time and therefore I do not consider that to be an ability.

Also ..A lot of people tell me that I am "psychic". I have a lot of deja vu and can just feel when something is not right. For example.. On September 11, 2001, I woke up with a feeling of foreboding. My stomach hurt and I could feel bad vibes. I feel bad on days that bad things happen before they happen. If I want someone to call me, I think really hard that I want them to call, and they will call. I do not consider these "talents" to be gifts however. I really just take them for granted!

Again thanks for your reply, I think all of this stuff (abduction, psychic powers, telekinesis etc) is related and I hope no one is mad that we are digressing a bit! Take Care, Angel

Posted by angelofmercy, on November 4, 2006 at 09:52 GMT

Hey STM, Thanks for your questions. My ancestry is as follows... On my mom's side... 80% German, 20% English. My dad's side.... 60% Native American, 20% German, 20% Eastern European (maybe Hungarian?). The combo makes for some strange looks... I have very blue eyes that turn green when I am angry or upset, very high cheekbones, fine but wavy reddish blond hair, fair skin that tans really dark without burning in the sun and have very little hair on my body (I do not have to shave my legs very often). Weird huh? My mom's mom is RH negative (which is a alien bloodline?). My mom's dad is a Mason (before someone asks) and mom's mom is an Eastern star. My Maternal Grandparents are the most loving couple on the planet and I owe them everything. I love them dearly. My Maternal Grandpa and I are very close. My dad's parents are dead and we never were close. They were alcoholics that brawled a lot with bad tempers!

In terms of my abilities.. I stopped being able to telepathically communicate with my sister at around 5 when I went to school. Probably because I was away from her all day. My ability to move things at will ended around the time I learned to read at the age of 3. I was too busy reading books to focus on it I guess.

Hope this answers your questions. Talk soon, Angel



posted on Nov, 6 2006 @ 10:58 AM
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I think the issue we may be dealing with is good old fashioned messing up the child’s gift scenario. I believe this happens to most every child on some level. You start to believe what the books say and accept the limitations placed on you by adults and the world around you. Pretty soon your gift is gone. This is also why I believe savants tend to carry their gifts into adulthood. Simply because they often have little capacity to accept limitations.

Angel, my question regarding the doctor had nothing to do with you being abused but more so an inquiry as to your physicality and differences to the norm or strange markings with no apparent explanation. Also, regarding the relative that was in the service, do you ever remember him coming late at night and waking you up to play or him showing up with other people in uniform?

Seen, that issue you brought up about origin is interesting as I have read posts in the past on ATS regarding that subject and how it relates to abduction.



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