one more note before we all go quiet (did 3 go quiet already?) -- there have been hints and rumors that one very old ATS member is actually an agent for the Ptolemy line we all thought was long dead. i have not confirmed who it is. but albert confirmed an old bit of prophesy that is Egyptian in origin that mentions a convergence beginning in June of 2004. i thought that rather odd timing and indicative of coming problems. so in anticipation of these types of problems, i've hidden the online ring in a very unlikely place, completely unrelated to our cause. that should throw them off the trail just a bit. simon should keep this in mind thought as he pieces together the hints for the members. not too much too soon i hope.