reply to post by thedman
Hauling in and spreading sand and dirt around and continually spraying the area with water were they? "Street scrubbing" were they? Having to leave
their contaminated clothes on site before they left? Hosing off the steel and hauling it away under the heaviest security ever given to scrap metal
were they? These aren't clean up procedures for a collapse or a fire dude, they are Nuclear Industry Standard Procedures for 'Hot Spot'
decontamination. Of course by the time the Berkley guys had arrived to measure radioactivity, the site had by that time undergone a rigorous
decontamination regimen. Why do you suppose that the decontamination procedures were consistent with radiation contamination?
I wonder if benzene made Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia's teeth fall out, or burned Felipe David's face off then? What about the two women, or Brian Reeves
(who originallly said he saw 'bright orange light' not a fireball, which is consistent with a flash of radiation in the retina as reported by
American Soldiers exposed to blasts in the 50's) whom Larry king interviewed who said they weren't in or near a fire and they didn't kow why their
faces were burned? What about the odd account of John Axisa who was getting off the WTC commuter train and said he felt heat on his neck at the same
moment he heard the explosions? Gamma rays do this, not collapsing debris, burning jet fuel, or benzene and asbestos.
Occam's razor, as applied to the strange commonalities and phenomina experienced and well documented will lead us to compare jet fuel and collapsing
debris or the detonation of a nuclear device... one explains all of them, one doesn't explain any of them.
What's the number of rescue workers that have or passed away from what is being termed the 'China Syndrome' now? The official story blames this
syndrome on Benzene and asbestos and the like, but a little research will quickly tell you that these can takes years to show up as cancer, and some
of these guys were into exceptionally rare cancers and lymphomas within in a few months and some of the rescue dogs died within a few days? Sure
thing, why not the EPA said the air was safe enough to work in didn't they? Not to mention, rare cancers are called rare for a reason, and the rates
these folks are dying from them is more than a little odd because all of them are common to and consistent with radiation exposure.
How exactly does jet fuel or falling debris create a pyroclastic cloud that literally toasted the area, or vaoprize all that missing office equipment,
vanish roughly 1100 unaccounted for human bodies, create spherical blast patterns, sublimate construction grade steel, instantly flash-micronize
concrete, cause sudden winds that throw people in some cases 100 feet, huge seismic spikes prior to each collapse, or vaporize a 50 ton steel press
that was never found? Ask any Hiroshima or Nagasaki survivors if they've seen this sort of thing, no need to ask them actually, it's pretty well
documented, and again strangely consistent with eyewitness accounts of 9-11.
I hope you understand there is evidence to suggest an emp here, aside from the tell tale loss of radio and cb signals at the moment before each
collapse. If you have a basic understanding of an electromagnetic pulse, then you understand it primarily effects metals and electrical equipment,
variances in strength and intensity, or damage, depends upon a number of factors such as range or angle to the blast, geographical or constructed
Just one example would be the account of Patricia Ondrovic, EMT and eyewitness who said she saw bright flashes of lights as light bulbs were popping
out and cars bursting into flame for no apparent reason at the same time we see the big spherical blast cloud hailing the destruction of the first
tower. Her statements are corraborated by many others like Mike Pecoraro for example.
What, dman, do you suppose could caused all those cars in some cases hundreds of meters away to burst into flame, leaving the paper scattered around
them untouched, or the door handles on the cars to pop off, and a building full of light bulbs to pop all at once, all the way across from the street
from the towers?
Take a look,
admit it or not, this damage is consistent with exposure to a strong, localized EMP with partial sheilding, perhaps a building between the EMP and the
back end of the car. Jet fuel or debris sure as hell doesn't explain this. Only an EMP, that I know of, is capable of burning paint off cars while
leaving paper and other nearby nonmetallics untouched. Gamma and thermal rays, or EMP's are perfectly capable, in fact well known, to cause this kind
of damage. Jet fuel isn't, neither is falling debris, or anything else for that matter, unless you believe in superman's lazer eye beams or
No you probably haven't heard about alot of the anecdotal depositioned evidence for an atomic device, most of it got buried
in a 12 thousand page
collection of depositions of 503 firefighters, port authority cops, and EMTs that was completely and appalingly omitted by the 9-11 Commission.
You keep telling us to do some real research, to which I would reply, we have dude.
Enough arguing with Dman anyway, a question to the rest of you who aren't in a state of complete denial but still skeptical...
What else can explain all the anamolies, while still providing the unaccounted energy and prerequisites required to micronize concrete, sublimate
structural steel, cause hundreds of meters of lateral ejection, heat steel to sufficient temperatures to cause it to remain molten for months,
vaporize over a thousand missing bodies and equipment, create spherical blast patterns, disrupt electrical and radio communications, set cars on fire
and pop light bulbs hundreds of meters away at the moment before each collapse, and cause an explosive increase of extraordinarliy rare cancers within
several weeks? If there's a more plausible explination that takes these unaccounted for real world documented events into account with any measure of
plausibility, I'd sure like to hear an alternative hypothesis because the use of nukes here really narrows the list of suspects down to a frightening
few nationalities, one of which, I'm unafraid to add was caught dancing and celebrating the event they'd said later they were there to document.
I highly reccomend all of you guys give this site a good looking over while it's still there to look over...
[edit on 27-9-2009 by twitchy]