The bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima were some of the earliest, most primitive and dirty bombs ever created. That was in the 1940's, some 60+
years ago. Some 60 years and trillions of dollars of (obviously classified) research funds later, is our current US military. Plans to build
type of nuclear device are not in public domain, so really, how much could we possibly know?
Consider that the big bombs couldn't really be detonated for risk of starting a nuclear war. Smaller, "tactical" nuclear devices would be a
priority, no? They talk now of using smaller bombs on Iran, though devices with such low yields as in the hundreds or singles of tons range aren't
something you hear any talk of, except that it's supposed to be impossible and no one can do it and "nuclear" means only a monstrous explosion that
can hardly be tamed.
I'll point out four things on this topic and see where it goes:
Consistently yellow-hot yet still rigid
steel/iron. Thermite or HE's could not do this. Other possibilities?
Streets and parking lots full of scorched cars. At least one car was also flipped. The dust clouds were reported as hot.
Trails of dust following solid ejected debris. Concrete breaking up mid-fall from no applied force? Concrete/steel on fire, smoking as it falls?
Hydrocarbon material burning as it falls, producing thick white smoke with no visible flame? Sublimation? Is there any relation to
And remember all the microscopic particles of steel and aluminum and iron, or whatever the metals were, found in high amounts in the air at Ground
Zero? How does that come to be? Thermite is one possibility.
Ground Zero civilian medic and corporate
whistleblower Indira Singh reports ulceric sores, hair loss, cancer in clean-up crews at GZ
BF: At one point, I noticed that you testified as to your physical symptoms and how this had affected your health. What did happen to you,
just on a physical level?
IS: It’s an interesting question because I was in excellent physical condition for my age and gender and I was training for an 8,000m
mountain climb, so aerobically I knew I could be up at 19 – 20,000 feet, no oxygen, doing a fair amount of aerobic activity… what happened to me
is—what happened to all of us basically, and it doesn’t sound very nice, but this is what happened—we had sores—some Firefighters I know
still have these horrific sores all over their body, our hair fell out, eye infections, shortness of breath, Adult-onset Asthma, chronic coughs,
tiredness, extreme fatigue, cardiac symptoms, heart palpitations where you never had any before, irritability, a lot of symptoms that were consistent
with neurotoxic poisoning, those were just the physical symptoms, and in some cases people reported that their hair fell out and even their dental
work fell out.
And to me they were consistent with signs of radiation poisoning. However, the toxic cocktail that had been burning there… I think a California
group went in and analyzed and pretty much came up with the determination that there were about 900 contaminants, 200 different kinds of dioxins, we
had the particulate matter the asbestos, the concrete, they had said that particles were ground so fine that they were the smallest particles ever
produced in history. And they blew past all our barriers and got lodged right in our lungs and most of us who were exposed to that are suffering from
something called reactive airway disease syndrome, which is something that the coalminers get.
LaBTop has posted before on geiger counters apparently being disallowed for two or three days after the collapses at Ground Zero, with emphasis on the
fact that radiation levels die down rapidly. High-efficiency bombs would also leave behind less critical mass to provide radiation; only certain kinds
of radiation would likely escape the building structure anyway with any smaller bomb: alpha radiation, for example, can hardly penetrate your clothes.
The bombs dropped on Japan made use of ~1% of their critical masses, throwing the rest of the kilograms of pure uranium/plutonium all over the bombed
region, accounting for much radioactivity no doubt. Again, those were dirty, primitive bombs. What hasn't
advanced by leaps and bounds in the
past 60 years, through the Cold War and all, at least in terms of military technology?
I've also read of (from some military vet on the OKC bombing, but don't have the sources or any technical jargon ready) the property of nuclear
detonations to utter destroy concrete, whether it is something to do with the lower density of the material itself or what, I don't know, but this
could explain why the concrete was all microscopic dust while seel and even paper was left intact
; it wasn't brute force that destroyed
the concrete and left so much paper intact, was it? In some "terrorist" blasts in the Mid-East, you'll see concrete blown into the same
microscopic dust seen at Ground Zero, with the rebar left behind perfectly intact!
These are just things from my current understanding of the situation and nuke detonations. Certainly not all questions are answered and a discussion
would be nice, but maybe there are a few things we can actually consider while we're at it.
[edit on 3-10-2006 by bsbray11]