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“In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at twilight is the LORD'S Passover.” Leviticus 23:5.
”And when He had taken some bread and given thanks [eucharisteo #2168], He broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me." Luke 22:19.
“Therefore when you meet together, it is NOT to eat the Lord's Supper . . . “. 1Corinthians 11:20.
“Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath* day -- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.” Colossians 2:16-17.
For just as we have many members in one body and all the members do not have the same function, so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.” Romans 12:4+5.
“Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it.” 1Corinthians 12:27.
“Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body, which is the church, in filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions.” Colossians 1:24.
“(1) The Matter or Eucharistic Elements:
There are two Eucharistic elements, bread and wine, which constitute the remote matter of the Sacrament of the Altar, while the proximate matter can be none other than the Eucharistic appearances under which the Body and Blood of Christ are truly present.”
”Clean out the old leaven so that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed.” 1Corinthians 5:7.
Above >> Terral, one might almost think you don't like Catholics. It appears you've been seriously misinformed about what Catholics teach and believe--not to mention, how the Catholic faith is practiced.
Above >> Do you seriously think that Catholic priests believe they are "crucifying" Jesus over and over again--once a week???
Above >> If you do--well, again you have been seriously misled. The idea is total nonsense and no Catholic believes there was ever more than one Crucifixion--and that one occurred roughly 2000 years ago. I'm sorry, but the whole idea of "crucifying" Jesus week by week is so flat-out bizarre it's almost laughable.
ARTICLE 3 - THE SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST
1322 The holy Eucharist completes Christian initiation. Those who have been raised to the dignity of the royal priesthood by Baptism [Sacrament #1] and configured more deeply to Christ by Confirmation [Sacrament #2] participate with the whole community in the Lord's own sacrifice by means of the Eucharist.
1323 "At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic sacrifice of his Body and Blood. This he did in order to PERPETUATE [my CAPS] the sacrifice of the cross throughout the ages until he should come again, and so to entrust to his beloved Spouse, the Church, a memorial of his death and resurrection: a sacrament of love, a sign of unity, a bond of charity, a Paschal banquet 'in which Christ is consumed, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge of future glory is given to us.'"
“For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for all, therefore all died; and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf. Therefore from now on we recognize NO ONE according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet NOW we know Him in this way NO LONGER. Therefore IF anyone is IN CHRIST, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.” 2Corinthians 5:14-17.
“Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.” Colossians 2:16-17.
“He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him AND for Him. He is before all things, and 'IN’ Him ALL THINGS hold together.” Colossians 1:15-17.
Above >> And about "the Body of Christ"--here you are confusing two totally different things. Catholics too believe that believers make up "the body of Christ". That has nothing to do with the Eucharist!!
“III. THE EUCHARIST IN THE ECONOMY OF SALVATION
The signs of bread and wine:
1333 At the heart of the Eucharistic celebration are the bread and wine that, by the words of Christ and the invocation of the Holy Spirit, become Christ's Body and Blood . . .”
“Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it.” 1Corinthians 12:27.
Above >> And wherever did you get the notion that excommunication has anything to do with "food and drink rituals"??
“. . . The excommunicated person, it is true, does not cease to be a Christian, since his baptism can never be effaced; he can, however, be considered as an exile from Christian society and as non-existent, for a time at least, in the sight of ecclesiastical authority. But such exile can have an end (and the Church desires it), as soon as the offender has given suitable satisfaction. Meanwhile, his status before the Church is that of a stranger. He may not participate in public worship NOR receive the Body of Christ or any of the sacraments. Moreover, if he be a cleric, he is forbidden to administer a sacred rite or to exercise an act of spiritual authority.
Above >> Your notions about Catholics and Catholic beliefs are so mistaken that I'm sorry, I almost find it hard to believe you're serious!
Above >> Terral, I hate to tell you this, but someone has been feeding you a lot of anti-Catholic propaganda. Of course you can think and feel any way you like about Catholicism--but at least you should know what Catholicism really stands for before you judge it.
Above >> And I can promise you--your "sources" have seriously misinformed you.
“But He answered and said, "I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24.
“Therefore when you meet together, it is not to eat the Lord's Supper . . .”. 1Corinthians 11:20.
Above >> Hi to you too, Terral. And not that it's that important, but actually it's Ms. Abovereproach, not Mr.--okay?
Above >> I still say you're confusing two different ideas about the "Body of Christ"--one does refer to the "Body of Christ" in the Eucharist--the other, which is totally separate, refers as you say to the whole "body" of believers. These are two different things, it's just that both happen to use the same phrase and that can be confusing. But they don't refer to the same thing at all.
"Therefore when you meet together, it is NOT to eat the Lord's Supper . . .". 1Corinthians 11:20.
Above >> How old were you when you attended Mass? If you were a child, you may have misunderstood just what was happening. Because again: There was only one Crucifixion, and that was 2000 years ago. NO INFORMED Catholic believes that Jesus is being "crucified" on a weekly basis![big snip]
Catechism >> 1323 "At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic sacrifice of his Body and Blood. This he did in order to PERPETUATE THE SACRIFICE OF THE CROSS THROUGHOUT THE AGES until he should come again, and so to entrust to his beloved Spouse, the Church, a memorial of his death and resurrection: a sacrament of love, a sign of unity, a bond of charity, a Paschal banquet 'in which CHRIST IS CONSUMED, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge of future glory is given to us.'"
Above >> And you seem to quote Paul a lot (IMHO). But you do quote him more than other Scriptures. And I above quoted Jesus, not Paul, so I'm wondering: Whose ideas matter more to you? Jesus's or Paul's?
Above >> This is really sad, Terral. I was hoping that you and I could engage in a constructive, civil, perhaps even friendly discussion.
It appears you aren't interested in that at all. I'm not quite sure just what your objectives are, frankly. You keep quoting Scripture (almost invariably Paul) instead of speaking to me as a fellow Christian--much less a fellow human being!
I absolutely and categorically disagree that we are to "cast aside" the "earthly" Jesus--whatever that is! Jesus was (and is) the same, whether 2000 years ago when He walked the earth, or today, or for that matter a million years from now.
“He is the IMAGE [almost Infinite] of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and IN Him ALL THINGS hold together.” Colossians 1:15-17.
“Therefore from now on we recognize NO ONE according to the flesh; even though WE HAVE KNOWN Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way NO LONGER. Therefore IF anyone is IN Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.” 2Corinthians 5:16+17.
“But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together WITH CHRIST (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up WITH HIM, and seated us WITH HIM [the incarnate Jesus YOU know] IN the heavenly places IN Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us IN Christ Jesus.” Ephesians 2:4-7.
"It is He who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie . . . These things took place in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing . . . This is He on behalf of whom I said, 'After me comes a Man [appearance = Phil. 2:8] who has a higher rank than I, for He [F+S+HS = Fig. 2] existed before me [Hs, H, E = Fig. 3].'” John 1:27+30.
Above >> We are called "Christians" for a good reason--not "Paulians"!