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posted on Oct, 3 2006 @ 12:00 PM
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muadibb i just want to let you know that i think your avatar is superb hehe.




posted on Oct, 3 2006 @ 12:10 PM
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...tweaked by morning coffee.

Seems to me that podcasting - and videocasting - are the folk art media of the 21st century. Similar to making sculpture from recycled bottlecaps, but different.


In an era when sound, images, and even human DNA is patented and protected as private property by Intellectual Property laws - people are forced to be VERY creative. And it's all in the bytes.

ScepticOverlord - Can ATS host videocast productions from members?

...Seems to me videocasting is the logical next step.

Anyone else have an opinion about this?


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posted on Oct, 3 2006 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by soficrow
...Seems to me videocasting is the logical next step.

Anyone else have an opinion about this?

Beautiful


I've basically ignored podcasting because I believe it's too personal a medium to get involved in. I also find video work much more engrossing and enjoyable to produce. I'd be very interested in getting involved with videocasting if it were to be supported by ATS.



posted on Oct, 3 2006 @ 05:53 PM
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Septic, Sofi, and Subz--

A agree. I think videocasting is the logical next step--and why not? We alredy have podcast, and it shouldn't be that big a deal to set up.

[edit on 3-10-2006 by Ed Littlefox]

[edit on 3-10-2006 by Ed Littlefox]



posted on Oct, 4 2006 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by ADVISOR
This is a odd one, a mix of visual, text and audio that is meshed pretty good. Would have to agree it requires more than one viewing and at least some pausing to re read some of the info.

Please comment and post a review of the linked vid, I'm going to finish watching it then see about do that myself. Just figured I would share as it is of this sites general content. I would like to check some of the facts, and am hoping a few of you other ATSers know these things.


Spooky. VERY spooky indeed.

Do I take the red pill or the blue pill? What if I am color blind?

What really scares me is the fact that I didn't have to pause it. Does that mean I have A.D.D.?



posted on Oct, 4 2006 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by xman_in_blackx
Spooky. VERY spooky indeed.

Do I take the red pill or the blue pill? What if I am color blind?

What really scares me is the fact that I didn't have to pause it. Does that mean I have A.D.D.?


Maybe, but it got your attention didn't it. Personally I don't use pills, don't beleive any one should. Toss'em on the ground, or fling them at a squirrel.

ADD, then you sure as heck didn't catch it all. Hell you probably barely looked at the screen, let alone heard what was actually being said by the female voice.

But, then again...
You could probably have a reading ability higher than average, and a more rapid translation that relates between the concious and subconcious. Then again you could have missed things, and not noticed subtle split second images and words fadeing under & behind the text.

I know a couple people already who watched this with me, and they blinked and missed something. Then argued with me that they didn't, so I showed them. You could have got it all, but did you? If so, great deal, please explain what else you got out of this.



posted on Oct, 4 2006 @ 05:33 AM
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This video seems to focus mostly on the US, when it seems this would have to be a global thing. (Or did I miss something?)

I find it curious that I didn't catch anything about the UN either, and it seems there should be some link there as well.

Comments?



posted on Oct, 4 2006 @ 08:55 AM
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imo, This kind of 'art form' is most like a Sufi tale - designed to "plant seeds" and work on the un/subconscious, like the book Caravan of Dreams.

I don't think it's brainwashing. It opens doors in the mind, jumpstarts the learning curve, and in kindergarden teacher language, creates a "window of opportunity."

The individual always has a choice.

What the video says to me

The world is out of control, here are some details. I see that people are playing with stuff I don't understand, and I realize they don't really know where it leads either. I wonder who really is controlling the big picture, if anyone is - and what their final agenda might be, and why. I wonder what I can do as an individual to change things and I realize I have to watch it again to get more information.



relentless - I suspect that the video is targeted to Americans because it's done in English, and the USA represents the largest English-speaking market in the world.

fyi - There is much similar stuff being done in Japanese for example - and marketed to kids. Translated versions are common.



posted on Oct, 4 2006 @ 02:03 PM
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I'm still breaking it down into topical sections. Then going back over that and seeing how, if at all those peices fit. Maybe there are videos like this on other nations, but havn't been found.



posted on Oct, 4 2006 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by ADVISOR
I'm still breaking it down into topical sections.


That would be great if you could do that for a start so we could attempt to look at peice by piece some of the claims made in this video. Seriously, some of them really need to be verified to disseminate the big picture. right now, I'm just overwhelmed with some of it.



posted on Oct, 4 2006 @ 07:12 PM
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Brain burp.

Should have said "window of learning" above.




posted on Oct, 4 2006 @ 08:35 PM
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I just watched this video again for the third time.Wow!! But what I would like to know is what can we,or anybody do anything about.I think that we are at least 40 years too late to try to reverse this process.I feel sorry anyone living in the United States right now.Once the next attack happens,it will probably be marshall law for sure.I'd like to know If,and when othr countries like Canada and the U.K. would follow suit???



posted on Oct, 5 2006 @ 02:05 AM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with ideas of transhumanism and artificial intelligence, as long as it is used to improve the human condition along commonly agreed moral and spiritual lines.

It's clear that there will be some kind of reaction leading up to and during this neu-mythological event that is destined to occur in 2012. We are racing on a more than a few teams, each with different ideas of what to do with this obvious jump in the definition and ability of humanity. Many of us who have done the research here know that many of the hands that actually control these buttons and devices act with a demonic energy, an energy of complete physical, mental, and spiritual control.

It's very easy to reason that this will never happen. Too many people, too much intelligence. These systems of complete control seem impossible to our ever-changing perceptions. They are the stuff of science-fiction stories. They could never happen to us, in our reality. We know better.

But it is still up to serious debate whether we know better or not. And being one who believes that complete control is impossible, I still believe the hands of the demons will try to establish it.

So, it may be a contradiction to believe complete control is impossible, yet know attempts are being made and will be made to establish it. The contradiction may cause one to sit back and relax, and hope others will take care of it. Complete control itself is impossible, but you would rather not be hunted, hiding, and scrapping for survival with a few glimmers of hope, ravenously fighting the Mass Hive and its goons.

We have a responbility to what is the general theme of this lovely website and message board. To use our knowledge of the subtle, hidden, and often horrifying truth of our present situation on Mother Earth to fight the battle that is occuring everyday. The fight to preserve our dignity of choice in our life, self, and consciouness. It's great to have faith that all will evolve progressively and beautifully, but it is your responbility to make sure it happens to the correct degree.



posted on Oct, 5 2006 @ 03:29 AM
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TheDoctor--

Vey, very, well said--and I thank you for stating the case.



posted on Oct, 5 2006 @ 04:58 AM
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I agree completely. But consider this:

EVEN IF we could start an objective discussion about the possibilities of the NWO,

EVEN IF we could bring this topic to the attention of the public and the "sheeple",

EVEN IF we could prevent the installation of The Matrix:

an idea once thought can't be undone. They'll find different ways to sell this particular item to the people; if not by force, then by luring them into it. We're already very, very close (if not completely into) the orwellian 1984 scenario of lies and deception - and it hasn't been forced upon us, but we bought their promises of peace and security. They prey on our fears. The Matrix is a symptom, not the agent for our enslavement.

One (=Neo) of us will have to go the core and negotiate with the Deus ex Machinae to destroy the... agent :-)



posted on Oct, 5 2006 @ 06:26 PM
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It never did any good to not try, so having the stance that nomatter what we do, it wont matter is rubish. Not trying is why we got into the messes we have, hypothetically, imagine if ALL eligible Americans voted.


Less than half of the registered voters actually voted, and the Florida bs didn't help matters, hmm why would Congress appoint a president?



posted on Oct, 5 2006 @ 08:35 PM
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The same here in Germany (hardly more than 50% voted in the Lower Saxony Landtag Elections). Less and less voters actually exert their power over the future of their countries (and the world). Either these non-voters (I am proud to say I am one of them) are not worth the freedom that Democracy grants them and they'd be better off with despotism telling them what to do - or these people mistrust the design of our democracies, because they see no point in it. The video clip put it quite nicely: it doesn't matter whether you vote dems or reps (in America), socialist or conservative (in Germany), as long as you can't define the contents of their policy. Once they're in power, they do whatever they please anyway, and elections (let alone one single cross on a sheet of paper) won't change things. They know that, and that's why - per definitionem - it's still a form of dictatorship in the guise of Democracy. You just exchange the puppets that appear on your TV screen and try to explain why taxes have to be raised, wars to be fought, this and that...

Of course these points can be argued. My reason for not voting is more a philosophical one - when I vote, I give my silent agreement to this form of government, thus I make myself guilty for any crime my country commits. But that's another topic alltogether.

And please note that I did not say that we should do nothing just because things never change. I say we must stop fighting the symptoms and find the real cause instead (therefor my allegory to the Matrix movies). That cause is found within us, not within our governments. Governments are generally just a caricature of their country's citizens (sorry to all Americans who feel offended now
). Changing governments and leaders is like changing clothes. It has brought us nowhere to this day. We'll have to go to our core, negotiate with ourselves and come to the conclusion that all we really want is peace. Destroy all fear.

Once we've "hacked" that "love virus" into the "matrix", the system will have no choice but to adapt and implement it; in other words: our governments will have to learn that we no longer endorse their policy of greed, fear and war. We must do believably so, therefor, we must be free of greed, fear and war ourselves. Only then can the caricature of a people be a beautiful one.



posted on Oct, 5 2006 @ 10:54 PM
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Ok, I mentined this idea to another member via u2u, a peaceful assembly on Cap Hill, as is a right for Americans. We could assemble out side the White Hoiuse, Congress and supreame court and in doing so ensure those in government are addressed by the voice of the people, they won't be able to leave if enough citizens are gathered.

I now there are ways to get this sort of thing going, so any one else have ideas?



posted on Oct, 6 2006 @ 05:39 AM
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I know from experience that peaceful demonstrations are sometimes undermined by state agents who try to agitate the masses, shout the first insulsts, throw the first stones and - magically - are the first to disappear once the police use tear gas, tonfas and shackles on the protestors. That's why (this time I'm ashamed to say) I hardly ever joined any demonstrations since.

I must admit I don't know how to start a wave. I hate that blank stare when I talk to people, they complain about government and economy, I say "let's do something" and they go like "sure, go ahead, I'm with you". It's going to be expensive and you'll need MAJOR support. Talk to people. Hand out flyers and leaflets. Start a viral campaign on the internet. Make appearances on major TV networks. Set a date, like, "remember, remember, the fifth of November" (V for Vendetta). As far as I can see from his videos, not even Alex Jones managed to get enough people together for a serious demonstration. Be a torch and make people burn. Wake them up. Light the fire.

I wish I could, I've not tried my best yet except for talking and writing but that's why I'm on ATS. I really want stuff to happen, and this must be the largest group of like-minded people I've ever met. I can't convince anyone, people must convince themselves. When people ask you for an agenda (they'll want to know what you're up to), just say "a better world". They'll want to know how you want to achieve it - "demonstrate, peacefully, no flags or signs waving, no shouts, only singing the anthem (or 99 red balloons) and marching with a broad smile on your face". They'll want to know what comes next - "a better world".

I bet there are enough people from all over the world here on ATS, and I bet together they could conceive of ways to turn the whole planet into the other direction. Let's do so then, except when we already have too much to loose.

(This is officially a cowardly "sure, go ahead, I'm with you"-post :cool



posted on Oct, 6 2006 @ 07:48 AM
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I've only seen the video once, and that with the sound off and my cursor over the pause button. I was impressed. This follows all the NWO stuff I've been reading for quite some time. Last year I decided to do some RFID research on my own. Most people claim that the RFID chip is too small to contain any useful data. What they don't realize is that your personal data is already in the databank. They just need your code to pull up your data. The RFID tag needs only enough memory to contain your code. Readers will be connect to terminals which in turn are connected to massive databases.





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