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Does Hijackers Race Make You Doubt Official Story?

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posted on Sep, 30 2006 @ 02:14 PM
I want to examine something....and i want to do it in an adult manner with nobody turning this into a "race war" thread. I've notice a pattern from a lot of the people who don't belive the official 9-11 story. I may just be paranoid, but i dont think i am. I want to explore the possibilty that one of the reasons people wont accept the official story is due to the fact that the hijackers race, and global heritage prevents people from taking them seriously.

i honestly think the reason people want to believe it's usa gov..and forgive me if this is racist......but *some* white people can't stand the fact that some mid east "dune dwellers" foiled them. look at tim mcgvey....he blew up a building with the help of 1 other man....yet nobody questions that AT ALL. ATS has conspirocys dating back to the 1900's, but nobody seems to question the oklahoma bombing..wich personally (even though i BELIVE mcvey DID do it almost alone..) lends itself to WAY more conspirocy than 9-11.

alright i said a lot lets pick this apart for real........Ok, first the OK's true that mcvey and his accomplice were the only 2 people ever charged and convicted of the bombing. i think there might have been 1 other person...but forgive me these events took place over 10 years ago my memory is a little fuzzy.

Ok so 2 men from the south, effectivley blew up a government office building using fertilizer and other materials found in the home. However, nobody ever questioned this. nobody every questioned how 2 men could kill over 100 people and blow up a 10 (15 maybe) story office building. That is no small task. And to do it with matierals found in the home is genious. Now these men were white...and from the south....obviously that shouldn't have anything to do with their capabilities...but think about the standard stereotypical immage of a white southern man. Usually a beer sluggin, uneducated "hillbilly" comes to mind. Obvsiouly this does not represent the south as a whole, but it is relavent when we assume (according to some) that the 9-11 hijackers were just some "cave dwelling men with plastic boxcutters".

So mcvey and his friend are sentaced, and everyone wants justice so they kill mcvey. Indeed he was different because he had time to give interviews in jail and we got to see the type of person he was.

But let's apply 9-11 propaganda logic to this with this fictional statement from a fictional OK disbeliever: "You expect me to belive that some hillbilly and his hick friend blew up a federal office building with a homemade bomb, that's perposterous!"

Now you see where i'm going with this thread?

I want if we could, to maybe apply this logic to the 9-11 hijackers. because it seems a lot of the time when it comes to the question of "how did a handful of men" hijack planes, it seems as if people always resort to name calling and INSIST on using some kind of propaganda like "cave dwelling" or somehting like that. And if u need proof, just look at some posts throuought this site..or better yet, look for that video of that scientist on Hanity and Combs who says almost word for word "YOU REALLY EXPECT ME TO BELIVE THAT 19 ARAB MEN FROM A CAVE HIJACKED A PLANE AND CRASHED IT INTO THE WTC"

Lets ask ourselves...who said they lived in a cave? Nobody has proof that these men spent their lives living inside some cave in afganastan. Nobody has proof to refute the fact that these were COLLEGE EDUCATED MEN and had IMMENSE KNOWLEDGE (espcially of flight/flying)

I feel that the assumption that "19 arab men with boxcutters couldn't have done it" is FALSE and downright RACIST.

i dont mean to offend, but after seeing this pattern appear so many times in so many diffference places, i feel it's time to address this dirty little "fact".

please be civil people, this is not an attack on race. i'm trying to expose what i feel to be real propaganda and racism here. and obviously u dont have to be white to be racist toward arabs.....

posted on Sep, 30 2006 @ 02:41 PM
The term "Cave dwelling" has only come about since the US and UK military decided that the perpetrators of 911 lived in caves in Afghanistan and have spent the last 5 years trying to eradicate all the 'caves' and their inhabitants in Afghanistan.


posted on Sep, 30 2006 @ 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Marlborough Red
The term "Cave dwelling" has only come about since the US and UK military decided that the perpetrators of 911 lived in caves in Afghanistan and have spent the last 5 years trying to eradicate all the 'caves' and their inhabitants in Afghanistan.


If I remember correctly, we were blowing up caves and mud homes cause thats where they were living and hiding in.

posted on Sep, 30 2006 @ 02:50 PM
The point is still that the racism was not so bad until after 9/11, which is a problem for what the poster is suggesting.

Also, I believe OKC was an inside job. It just isn't discussed so much anymore, and I'm not as familiar with it as I am 9/11. I don't care who's doing whatever. If a story doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense. Arabs couldn't have arranged NORAD wargames and FEMA bio-terror exercises in Manhattan and NRO plane-into-building exercises and all that mess, all on or immediately before 9/11, unless Arabs are running our military. And I don't believe in those kinds of staggering coincidences, either, that all of those things just *happened* to line up on 9/11 as the exact same things were actually happening.

posted on Oct, 1 2006 @ 01:28 PM
As I've replied on this issue on another thread already, I'll sum it up here short.
Agree with Spawwwn, seen such a notions often in many expressions of disbelief to the fact Arabs were able to hijack and fly planes. "the evil gubmint wants us to believe some cave dwellers managed to do this..." etc... This strikes me as racist. If other arabs are able to learn how to fly a plane (though often just to get their ... handed by a better trained opponent), why won¨t these be able to do so? Why won't they be able to find four flights departing at similar time? (so much for "extreme coordination") etc, just because they were Arabs?

posted on Oct, 1 2006 @ 01:43 PM
ok, you got me to look

the thread title says 'race'
which gave me different mind scape of what you meant than what i thunk it meant

perhaps you might try 'Ethnicity' instead of 'race' in a future title

thanks for listening

posted on Oct, 1 2006 @ 01:56 PM

Originally posted by bsbray11
Arabs couldn't have arranged...

Allies also couldn't have arranget the Kriegsspiel at Rennes (with many German generals disobeying orders and leaving their units before dawn, June 6th), Rommel's visit to Germany, general Mack's birthday celebration, lack of courage to wake Führer up and all those nasty coincidencies of the D-Day, yet they've happened all during or shortly before the D-Day.
Japanese also caouldn't have arranged say planned arrival of B-17 bombers to Hawaii on December 7th, 1941, as well as other coincidencies of that day.
Every such a major thing is FULL of coincidencies, by most part because of so many people taking their part during the event.

posted on Oct, 1 2006 @ 06:07 PM
So you're suggesting our military officers intentionally stood down to help to Arab hijackers? Hitler wanted an investigation into those things, btw, and it wasn't like they hadn't tried to disobey or even kill him before.

Look, there are coincidences, and then there is ridiculous. FEMA in Manhattan on 9/10. Guess what? They were able to immediately secure the site and prevent people from coming in and looking around. NORAD wargames caused confusion and prevented interceptions. The NRO drill caused confusion. An exercise within the WTC for that morning got a CEO out of the building, being escorted by military to a base at the same time.

If there is nothing funny about that, then either you have some serious bias issues, or something. I just don't get it. The chances of that are just astronomical. What happened to Occam's Razor?

[edit on 1-10-2006 by bsbray11]


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