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posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 11:37 AM
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Right when my wife and I moved out together, some strange things started to happen to me.

When we stayed at a friends house for a couple days is the first time that I can remember it happening. I took her to school, and then came home to get a little extra sleep which was the norm for me. When I layed down in bed though, I blinked my eyes, and was instantly paralized. I did have the ability to move my eyes. No I wasn't on drugs, and I got plenty of sleep the night before so it wasn't exhaustion. Anyways, I was lying there and I was freaking out. I was trying to scream at the top of my lungs but it was just an internal scream. Then I felt what I was sure was my wife come into the room. I couldn't see her but I could hear and feel her. She came into the room. got onto the bed beside me, and out her arm around me. She didn't say a word. I could definitely feel her arm around me, and the bed moved when she layed down next to me, just as if she were truly doing so. Well after me freaking out a little more, and doing some more screaming, I came out of it. I say came out of it because I know it not to be a dream. It is an instant happening, and there is no way in my mind that a dream can manifest itself immediately once someone dozed off. The time that passed was never long enough for me to enter a dream state.

After a couple more happenings of this, minus the vist from my wife, I began to suspect this could be an incubus. This thought came to mind after going into this state while lying on my stomach. I could feel someone was on top of me. I knew that it was on top of me, and I was screaming inside for God to help me because I was sure whatever it was was going to kill me. Many times that this happened I begged and begged God to get me out of it, and I think that it is something that he just let come to pass.

Sometimes this state would occur, and I would come back, only to blink again and rejoin that state, this could happen 3 or more times unless I physically got out of bed, got in the car, and went for a drive. This has happened to me now at all times of the day, and even when my wife has been sleeping beside me. That is even scarier, because then the fact that she is lying next to me can then be used to make me even more fearful. I also seem to have the ability to push a way from my body. It is just enough to know that I am away from it. Its like I try to get up out of the bed while paralized, and I feel myself getting up, and then all of a sudden the pressure is too great and I am pulled back to myself.

I can control things a little more now. I can come back a lot quicker. I don't know how I do it, but I just know that it is possible. I can also push away a little farther now, but I am scared because I don't know if it is me pushing, or someone else pulling. I try to control my fear, and I am hoping to gain some insight as to what this is and why it is happening to me by not immediately leaving this state out of fear.

If you don't believe this crazy story, then that is fine. I just ask that you don't waste all of our time by posting about it. I don't want anyone to say they believe me, I don't really need that. I just want to know what this is, and maybe why it is happening.




posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 11:54 AM
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Sounds like a sleep paralysis problem. Some people become plauged by a out of sync. sleep function of some sort and get frequent sleep paralysis. My neighbor has that problem, although I think it's very rare.

The not being able to breath thing can be a form of apnea mixed in too. I'm not too overweight but I get sleep apnea and it feels like I'm dieying. I literaly can't get a good breath in. I know what it feels like to get the sleep paralysis part and try calling out for help only to be screaming inside.

Once while soundly asleep a mild earthquake hit( I live in LA) and I awoke suddenly. The only problem was that my body hadn't come online yet so I was totally,completely paralysed. I wouldn't have even known that I had arms if I couldn't visualy see them at the time. I was so paralysed that I couldn't even lurch a shoulder over and turn over in my bed. The worst part was that I couldn't call out to anybody in my house to see if they were ok or if they knew what had just happened. Everything was silent and I felt profoundly disconected from everything. For a minute I actually thought that maybe I had died in the earth quake. It only seemed so mild because I had gotten crunched early in the quake, and that I was in some sort of after life limbo/purgatory just staring at my celing from my bedroom. After about a minute and a half later I slowly got back ability to move...Slowly. The episode felt like 5 minuts but was probably just a few seconds to a minut and a half



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 11:58 AM
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maybe you should check this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

i think it will help you.



[edit on 28-9-2006 by g210b]



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 12:00 PM
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I have considered this too but:

I don't have any trouble breathing during this time.

It happens whether I am following my sleep schedule or not.

It has happened at any time of day.

I KNOW that I am not sleeping during this, so I have to rule out anything that is sleep related.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by g210b
maybe you should check this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

i think it will help you.



[edit on 28-9-2006 by g210b]


I think that this is a totally different issue. I never actually acheived total out of bodiness. It was also definately not something that I was seeking, and I would really question why anyone would want to "Yank" me out.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 12:08 PM
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it doesnt always have to be someone who wants to yunk you out.
the 'paralized state' is what you have in common with the obe phenomena thats why i suggested you to read it.

but if this just happen spontaneous to you and not from sleep I guess you should chek with a medic as first thing.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 12:43 PM
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You could be getting the onset to a neurological condition, or anurism like thing might be maifesting. Should probably consult a doctor, especially if it's happening at random times. Also, if the doctor can't figure it out or you're physically ok, than consult a spiritual specialist, maybe something supernatural is occuring. But I would go down the list of possible natural explinations first.

Oobe's sound really fun/or somewhat scary but worth the insight and extra knowledge one could potentialy gain from experiencing it. Once when I was really into meditation I experianced a Satori like event, where I felt like I had left my body and was briefly flying around an oak tree 300 feet away at the base of a canyon under the ridge I was meditating on. The doctors explained it as a neurological function due to parts of the brain shutting off during meditation that were responsible for spatial positioning awareness functions. A really cool and enlightening experience. Whish I could do it again but it required way more concentration than my financialy worried mind can muster at this time in my life.

I was interested when I was a kid inOobe's but never had the oportunity to really give it a try. wouldn't mind achieving the ability now. what are the dangers and benifits?



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 01:57 PM
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Even though it has been brought on at different times of the day, it is always when I lay down to take a nap. I really don't think it is health related, but I will check it out. Still a little confused as to what it is. I do know that my dad has said he has experienced parts of it as well in the past. That is why I lean away from medical problems. My mom is someone who does involve herself in spiritual warfare, so that made me key in on the incubus thing.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 02:12 PM
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Your mom does spiritual warfare. That sounds like it might be part of the equation. Does she practice defensive arts or is she engaging in more darker things? Just curious cause she could be attacking you.

But if your dad gets it maybe it's genetic. But you should double check to make sure it's not something that hasn't been missed before or previously un diagnosed. If that stuff checks out. Talk to some one who might know alot about different types of spiritual warfare or demonic manifestations. Something could be stalking you.

Can you tell me more about what impresions you get when this occures other than the understandable terror. Does it feel like something is hating you, wants to definantly hurt you if at all possible, and will keep trying till it succeds? That sounds demonic.

If it's feelings of disasociation and lonelyness, abandonment... that is a normal phycological reaction to being paralysed or helpless feeling, try factoring those out unless they definantly are wrapped up in the malicious feeling. What I mean is does it feel like you're reaction is to feel disasociated, or does it feel like it wants to seperate you. That could help figure out what is really going on.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 02:17 PM
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Also to some degree it does sound like minor out of body experiences. Maybe it's an ability not developed to the point of functioning that runs on your dads side of the family. Maybe you are begining to learn to control it like no one else in your family had been able to. Just a thought.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 05:13 PM
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I should just say that my family is under attack at times, and what I mean when I say that my mom does spiritual warfare, is that she has a good relationship with God, and thus is very in tune to things of that nature. My dad did consult are pastor about it when he experienced the same sort of thing. The pastor advised him that it was probably an incubus or some other sort of demon. The part that doesn't make sense to me is when my wife came to visit me, or when I heard my landlord talking. Those times it was scary, but not as bad. Most of the time it is just this feeling that there is someone(s) on top or around me that want to do harm to me. Like I said, I have begged God to get me out of there at times because the fear that they were going to kill me was so great.

It sounds a little psycho I guess, but I do believe that the spiritual world is real, and that people battle demons on a daily basis.

The OBE I can't really explain. I am still trying to figure it out. It is like I get the feeling that I WANT to pull away from myself. I try really hard to pull myself up and way, but just don't quite have the strength. I am just sort of scared that it may not just be me wanting it but something influencing my thought.

As for my mother attacking me, I really couldn't see that. She is not into anything dark at all, and I wouldn't consider her adept enough to do that sort of thing, but anything is possible.

[edit on 28-9-2006 by jakeolsen2219]



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 05:31 PM
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OK so nothing darks going on with your mom. although they could be attacking your father and then later on you to get at your mom.

A lot of people who have undergone experiments at labs and universities with magnetic fields that emulate sleep paralysis and hypnogognic hallucinations report that they have a sensation of another being in the room, human like but with no definable shape, and that they usually get a malicious feeling from the creature.

That being said could humans all experience this phenomina as a mind created thing or does this form of electrical/magnetic disturbance in the brain unlock areas in the brain that allow us to precieve the demonic/spiritual world? Maybe you are more spiritualy ensative and things of this nature are more visable to you and your family line.

Ultimatly demons can't get the better of us if we don't let them. The power is in every one of us to be able to stop them in their tracks. Keep up resisting them if you feel that they are trying to compel you to do something.

With the OOBE's it sounds like its a developing skill yourbody is slowly becoming able to unlock. Maybe not a bad thing. Might make you an easier target for spiritual predators though.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by jakeolsen2219
Right when my wife and I moved out together, some strange things started to happen to me.

When I layed down in bed though, I blinked my eyes, and was instantly paralized. I did have the ability to move my eyes....

Then I felt what I was sure was my wife come into the room. I couldn't see her but I could hear and feel her. She came into the room. got onto the bed beside me, and out her arm around me. She didn't say a word. I could definitely feel her arm around me, and the bed moved when she layed down next to me, just as if she were truly doing so. .......

.... while lying on my stomach. I could feel someone was on top of me. I knew that it was on top of me, and I was screaming inside for God to help me because I was sure whatever it was was going to kill me. Many times that this happened I begged and begged God to get me out of it, and I think that it is something that he just let come to pass.

.....this could happen 3 or more times unless I physically got out of bed, got in the car, and went for a drive. This has happened to me now at all times of the day, and even when my wife has been sleeping beside me. .....


I just want to know what this is, and maybe why it is happening.


Each person has a few different bodies in layers one within the other and some of those bodies are interfaces which link the human life to the secret world of the beings who created our world. The interfaces are merged with the human life and direct various functions both physical and spiritual.

When a person lays down one or more of the interfaces may separate from the human form for various reasons and when this happens the person will experience paralysis and the feeling that someone else is in the room with them, maybe more than one being.

The interfaces generally present each person with one dark spirit and one light one and together these two spirits balance the human spirit between them and lead the human spirit in the direction it is meant to take in life.

If you have a serious fall or accident then the interfaces can become damaged and you will find you enter parallel realities or perceive spiritual matters like no one else can. This is due to the failure of the interfaces to hold you in the right quadrangle so to speak.

So I think your interfaces are having difficulty staying merged with your body. This happens to me also when I lay down during the day. The interfaces will have difficulty staying in place and will be forced to separate. So I can't lay down during the day for very long.

It also helps the interfaces to merge better if I lay on my back with my legs straight and my hands by my side or folded on my chest.

I know you all don't have a freakin clue what I'm writing about but it's fact nonetheless. there's a lot more to it but if you relax and don't fight it then you will meet the gods and know more than the average yogi.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 08:25 PM
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Thanks for your posts bassplyer. I know how the mind can create things all of its own, so I do take into consideration that this could be my own imagination. The fact that my dad has had it happen tends to lend credibility to its not jsut being a mental thing, but I definately don't rule it out. I know that it can't hurt me as long as God is with me, but this is easily forgotten when you are in that state of paralysis. I am starting t ofear it less and less as I am more able to pull away from myself. It is a slow progression though, as it has been almost two years for me to get to the point where I am.

Probedbygrays: I like your description of this. Where is it that you came upon this information? I tend to personally stick to things that I know to be true from the bible, and so I am just curious where you got this interpretation from.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 08:30 PM
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Please Go to the doctor too, what if it could be some type of STROKE waiting to happen find out, people come on asking us non proffesionals with conspiracy and mysterious mind sets, we are not the right solution and people need to open u at home too. People here ask for medical advice on ATS and its about time they went to the doctor first and then tell us if its a mystery. People maybe avoiding the doctor and indangering thier health for ATS explanations.

Please people anything that seems odd with the body or mind see the doctor or GP, if its out of this world who knows you may become famouse, we will be happy for you to tell us the story.

Sorry to sound like this just concerned.

[edit on 28-9-2006 by The time lord]



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 08:36 PM
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I understand your concern, but I have had cat scans, EEG, and even elctrodes on my head for a totally non-related medical issue. I would assume that through all of this they would have discovered an anomilie if one existed. If not, I don't really have a lot of faith in them seeing anything they didn't before.

The unrelated medical issue by the way was just a bad car accident six months ago. No this didn't start after that, it started before, and has continued, though slightly to a lesser degree.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by jakeolsen2219

Probedbygrays: I like your description of this. Where is it that you came upon this information? I tend to personally stick to things that I know to be true from the bible, and so I am just curious where you got this interpretation from.


The beings I learn all of this from are identical in personality to The Father God in The Bible. They taught me over many years. Just as The Father God takes many forms so do they. It's too complex to explain. It's like there are many of them but they are all One. Stick to your religion and enjoy your life but there's no reason to be afraid of what's happening to you even though no one understands it.



posted on Sep, 29 2006 @ 08:08 AM
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Probedbygrays, you seem to be a very deep person. And for the 1st time I actually agree with the theory, or belief that you mentioned as to why he was being paralysed in his bed.
I've asked you this before, but I don't think I've gotten an answer. You always seem to focus on the positive side of the matter. Not that nothing is wrong with that. But doing this has ruled out the negative side of it. Do you believe in evil entities? And do you think they sometimes intefere with us?



posted on Sep, 29 2006 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by sdrawkcab
Probedbygrays, you seem to be a very deep person. And for the 1st time I actually agree with the theory, or belief that you mentioned as to why he was being paralysed in his bed.
I've asked you this before, but I don't think I've gotten an answer. You always seem to focus on the positive side of the matter. Not that nothing is wrong with that. But doing this has ruled out the negative side of it. Do you believe in evil entities? And do you think they sometimes intefere with us?


No, there are no evil entities. I have spoken with thousands of people over the years who have encountered the supernatural and in every case where people thought they had encountered an evil entity they were mistaken, or were being fooled by an entity pretending to be evil. Some entities act very evil in order to scare people into being good. Millions of people go to church and temples and act piously not because they love God but because they fear the horrors of evil that are talked about everywhere. So sometimes beings will act evil to scare humans into changing their living habits.

The god beings working for God are closely watching everything that happens in our world. They are so powerful that there is nowhere for real evil to hide, nowhere for it to run.

We have millions of religious and pseudo religious people labeling things as evil however simply because they don't look or act in certain ways.



posted on Sep, 29 2006 @ 10:34 AM
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I have experienced this in the past. I can only describe the feeling of being frozen in terror for what seems to be a long time. There is always the feeling that there is someone in the room and other people experience the sensation of pressure on their chest and the thing looking down at them. It is a terryfing experience.

The alst time i experienced it was about a couple of months ago. My girlfriend was lying beside me sleeping before I nodded off then immediately after lying down I got the sensation there was somebody in the room, i could only open my eyes slightly and was terrified and i started moaning louder and louder. At that point my girlfriend stirred and i interpreted that as someone gliding over the bed. Eventually I woke up.

I don't think this is paranormal, it is definately sleep paralyisis, look into it (You probably have) and i wish you all the best.



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