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posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 07:29 AM
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See, i'm a believer that in an infinite Universe with an Infinite possibilities anything is possible.
Somewhere on a distant planet some alien being is possibly sat at a computer typing on their AboveTopSecret(hmm, interesting - do you guys own it
) in a thread that states 'Proof - Sentient Primates from the Planet Human this is a Smoking Vladnar(cause why would they speak English right!!!)'
Underneath is a picture of King Kongesque Primate with defected eye!!
Would they be wrong in saying we exist?
no
BUT they would be wrong in their proof, as I believe RavenWindFree is.


Originally posted by RavenWindfree

1.) Ever since the dawn of history there has been Dragons mentioned in cultures all over the world. How were these mentioned. They did not even "connect" with eachother. Though I do agree this theory of reptilian shapeshifters sounded far out, it didn't when I discovered it. To you guys, I don't blame anyone here for not believing at all. in fact it is your choice. You believe what you want.


Like some said This is based on a combination of Fossils found and explained incorrectly, the human need to 'demonize' or worship creatures for social/political and for literature reasons PLUS a marker from our Genetic Memory from when craetures like the Komodo Dragon(and such) was ALOT bigger than what it is now(watch a show called Myths Monsters and Hobbits).


Originally posted by RavenWindfree

2.) Even though I don't have ay proof for my claim. I have had a sleep paraysis experience seeing these reptilian creatures. The only difference was that they were not people shapeshifting they were reptillian-alien-creature things. And it was a very wierd ha'f/wake/ dream/reality type of encounter. I understand that when peope dream they know it's a dream, when I dream I do too, but this was a dream/ reality. And as I was researching my dream I came across teh description for reptilians, etc and about the aliens. At first I found a thread about it or some UFO site and I was thinking, "Sure, BS.".. you know? Of course that is everyones reaction. It is a "normal" reaction, because we would never even think of something being true like that?
But when I came across teh description of them, that right there, hit me very hard like a knife in my somach. I couldn't believe it , the picture was the EXACT thing I saw in my encounter. So I started off on my research.

See, you believe because you experienced a very human thing that is scientifically believed to cause dreams to appear real you now believe these creatures were in your room.
They supposedly run the European Royal Families, may have links in the US administrations and they are in your room!!
Well forgive me for not quite believing this....unless you are unconciously some Reptilian Prostitute....how much do you charge....16 Z;larnacks an hour...i want some of that pie

The reason your 'exact' image of a Reptilian Creature is the same one discussed by any is because culturally that image has been around for decades.
This agaion is not because Aaron Spelling, Steven Spielberg, Gene Roddenberry, George Lucas or any one else in Hollywood, living or dead, is a Reptilian, this is because to create an Alien Species you have to play on certain things. Foir example. If you want bvelievable interaction, it has to be humanoid. If you want to scare people, it has to be something that is deep in Humanities Psyche(Reptiles have scared Humans for Millenia).



Originally posted by RavenWindfree

3.) While researching I came across David Icke and Phil Schineder, plus many others that gave there share about the reptilians. At last I didn't think it was far fetched after all. I really did see "green dinosaur things" in my room. At least that's what I called them when i saw them. Now keep in mind that when i saw these things, this happened before I knew or saw anything about reptilians.


You really need to wake up and smell the coffee.
You must have watched TV at some point in your life, Sci-Fi to be precise, and I can tell you that is why your visiion was similar.
See above for why its wrong.


Originally posted by RavenWindfree

4.) Hmm lets see what else can I say? Oh yeah, all through history there have been legends and stories of Dragon or reptilian gods worshipped. In Egypt there was "Sobek" the crocodile god, in Mexico there was the Queztcoatl the winged serpent"
In Africa there are stories of the Nommo, or other reptilian beings..
In China, people in the ancient dynasty referreed to themselves as "Ancient Dragons"..


Purple is also a colour associated with Lesbians.....my gosh, I knew there was something unearthly about two women getting it on!!!
Serious, now you simply are shooting in the dark and hoping you hit something.
Its threads like these that make any real chance of find the truth impossible because no one would take it seriously.
You shoiuld be ashamed of yourself for setting back the Truth Seekers back about 5 years(per thread).

I'm so not going further in with the rest of your comment because people have read it and know its crap.
Not because Reptilains don't or do exist, but because you are clutching at straws hoping that someone will find your little theory may have some substance.
I hope David Icke appreciates all the money you will be sending his way.




posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Quackmaster
Why, if there are so many impassioned members on these forums that believe in these things, and so many accounts of alleged proof and events that have apparently happened to them - is there no proof. Circumstantial occurances, granted, but not one single person on this forum can show me anything by the end of today that means I can let my children grow up knowing that Reptiles exist.


Because they don't exist in our dimension. You'll never get proof, for that simple reason. You'll have to construct some kind of amazing new camera that shoots frequencies that the human eye cannot detect. Remember we can only detect 5% of the electromagnetic spectrum around us. So good luck finding a Reptilian to shoot, you're gonna need it.

You feel the topic cannot be discussed intelligently and should be binned and thrown into BTS, that is your opinion but there is a lot more to this than you realise. You cannot relate to the topic because it will never slot in with your view of physical reality. The only way I can see this being 'proven' is if scientists will one day demonstrate miltiple dimensions and vibrational frequencies and maybe that will open people up to possibilities beyond their 'burger, fries and bowling night' world.

Or.. some kind of camera with special capturing technology is invented, much like how people are using infra-red to capture UFO videos in daylight these days. I just don't think there's any need for negativity here. Ok, you've had your laugh.. we all know the photos of Rummy haven't proven a thing.. but that doesn't mean the entire topic is bunk. Keep an open mind about this, that's all I'm saying.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by RavenWindfree
But when I came across teh description of them, that right there, hit me very hard like a knife in my somach. I couldn't believe it , the picture was the EXACT thing I saw in my encounter. So I started off on my research.


This kind of thing is common. When we come across something we understand, our mind attempts to associate it with something we know. This is actually the region for a lot of alien sightings.
You experienced something frightening and needed to understand what it was. You then found an explanation for it which seemed to you to be apt.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by RiotComing
Because they don't exist in our dimension. You'll never get proof, for that simple reason. You'll have to construct some kind of amazing new camera that shoots frequencies that the human eye cannot detect. Remember we can only detect 5% of the electromagnetic spectrum around us. So good luck finding a Reptilian to shoot, you're gonna need it.


That's ok then - thanks for clearing it up. Just because I have a small amount of human curiosity - how do you know this? Can you prove this to me - have you had a personal experience? If someone had a gun pointed at a loved one would you swear it to be true? I think these forums are providing me with an element of premanition, because I have a feeling I know roughly what your answer is going to be.

I have an open mind - that's why I bother commenting, to see if it can be changed by someone here, but having an open mind does not mean you can not favour a certain opinion - and currently I believe the theory about reptileans to be fake.

I think soon we are going to have to start typing the word PROOF as Pr**f because it appears to cause so much offence when it is mentioned......



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 09:11 AM
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i would like to point out that i have seen many pictures of eyes that looks like a reptile shape it's usually due to the reflection of the eye that acts like a mirror and the reflection of the object is reflected in the eye creating a reptile look, it's mostly seen in green eyes, i'v seen it in real life too from girls with green eyes, mostly green eyes cause they are really light in color and the reflection of the object is more aparent.



there is also meop eyes, that's a french term i dunno what the term is in english but it's a oval shaped retina that will most likely require glasses.



here is an example of green eyes notice the reptilian look, i'v not tempered with the pic in any way.

if someone could tell me how to put up a picture i could show this example..



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by selfless
if someone could tell me how to put up a picture i could show this example..

There is a Member Upload Center in your Member Center section.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 09:17 AM
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ok i found how to put up an image i will do it shortly



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 09:19 AM
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here it is i hope.






notice what i mean? you can find many pics like this of green eyes that will produce this effect.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 09:46 AM
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oh and it doesn't have to be green eyes although it's a lot more likely to happen with green eyes.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Quackmaster

Originally posted by RiotComing
Because they don't exist in our dimension. You'll never get proof, for that simple reason. You'll have to construct some kind of amazing new camera that shoots frequencies that the human eye cannot detect. Remember we can only detect 5% of the electromagnetic spectrum around us. So good luck finding a Reptilian to shoot, you're gonna need it.


That's ok then - thanks for clearing it up. Just because I have a small amount of human curiosity - how do you know this?



Well actually, I can quote a scientist who actually thinks it's closer to 0.5%. Here's a quote from astrophysicist Giuliana Conforto, from her 2004 book 'Organic Universe':


'We have to remember that the luminous matter we observe with our instruments is only 0.5 per cent of all calculated mass. What we see with our own eyes is still less. "Reality is a thin "film" of electromagnetic light, a visible matrix, our biological body or robot can interact with; such a body is just a "costume" that lets us participate in the "film" itself for a while; it is not our true identity or "I"."


Now I don't know about you, but I think, with further research in the future of course, that this could explain most unexplained phenomena - the existence of ghosts, psychics and their gifts of 'seeing', yes even Reptilians, UFO craft entering / exiting our atmosphere, the works. 95% of the universe is dark matter. Bottom line is, we still don't know the true nature of ourselves and our surroundings - who are we to make harsh judgement calls when in reality we really are blind as bats, restricted to our 5 senses!

And you could apply what Conforto says to the reports of the 'shapeshifters' - a costume change in the 'film' of the universe - it's all possible.

[edit on 28-9-2006 by RiotComing]



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 10:09 AM
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Perhaps I am not making my self very clear. My argument/request is not that you prove or disprove the tolerance of humans to their sensitivity of the electromagnetic sprectrum. I want to know how you know that Reptileans hide themselves within this spectrum. How do you know they exist? My question is as simple as that. I do not disagree with any of your arguments referring to the possibilities presented by things that may or may not exist in the spectrum.

I want you to quantify your statement that I can not see Reptile proof because they are hidden by the electro spectrum and how you know that to be fact.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Q

[edit on 28-9-2006 by Quackmaster]



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
david icke....be afraid, be very afraid

from wikipedia



The Green Party distanced itself from him in 1991 after he announced that he was "the son of a godhead," [2] (video) and a "channel for the Christ spirit." [3] He began to dress only in turquoise and maintained that the world was ruled by a secret group called the "Global Elite", or "Illuminati", which he linked to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, an anti-Semitic hoax [4] [5] based on older documents not referring to Jews.


Oh come now, be nice. David Icke knew that he was being foolish during that time. But now he has evolved and in my opinion is one of the smartest people. Anyone who researches reptilians, or have will back me up on that one..



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 10:22 AM
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o...m...g I have never in my life seen a greater thread like this with so many skeptics. Yes I understand it sounds far out! ok! Maybe Donald Rumsfeld did have surgery in his eye, or maybe it was a jpeg effect! WHO KNOWS!?
This whole thing with our political leaders as reptilans is not so far fetched. to me at least. I can't beieve that ATS can become so mean like this. You guys, half of you have very closed minds...
And for the comment about me being "mad".. well right back at you.
I've done a heck of a lot of research more than you have about reptilians. Sure maybe, just maybe they don't exist, but there is a lot of evidence proving that they do if you just look in the right place!

As for the new world order, illuminati, 9/11 being planned, global control, micro chips!!! They are still evil reptilians at heart! AND I KNOW THAT, that is TRUE! I know that, that whole conspiracy is true! Maybe not the reptilians, I still believe some of them are, but you have to admit by the way we are going now, and talk abotu October 13th coming up, which by the way is Templars Day! Which is very VERY significant to the illuminati. Oh wait? You don't know about it? DO YOUR RESEARCH!

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my god. Sorry it's my fault, I shouldn't have put the stupid picture up there in the first place if I didn't know people were going to be so wierd about it.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by RavenWindfreeAnd for the comment about me being "mad".. well right back at you.
I've done a heck of a lot of research more than you have about reptilians. Sure maybe, just maybe they don't exist, but there is a lot of evidence proving that they do if you just look in the right place!


You bring something preposterous to discussion that many people don't believe, you bring no actual proof but claim there is alot and you make make out the people who don't believe your personal tall tale that can be SCIENTIFICALLY reasoned to be wrong and you make out others are absurd.
You have lost any respect you might have had...not that you had a great deal simply because you are SO desperate for some meaning added to your own life and existence you are clinging to some very dubious theory that has you entwined in there.

I don't not believe in Reptilians but I definitely don't believe you.

[edit on 28/9/2006 by JebusSaves]



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by JebusSavesYou have lost any respect you might have had...not that you had a great deal simply because you are SO desperate for some meaning added to your own life and existence you are clinging to some very dubious theory that has you entwined in there.

I don't not believe in Reptilians but I definitely don't believe you.

[edit on 28/9/2006 by JebusSaves]


*sigh*

Please attack the thinking and not the thinker

The reasoning behind this is very much the heart and soul of ATS.

Every poster has the right to bring forth ideas on a conspiracy theory board, no matter how outrageous. To disect that theory and look for the truth or falsehoods within such thinking is what denying ignorance is all about.

But, to attack the poster who brought forth such a radical idea is counterproductive to debate and will only foster silence.

*pauses to watch paint dry*



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 11:20 AM
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if only people would realise that peace is such an easy thing to acheive..


maybe currently you can't do anything about wars going on in the world but you can certainly do something about your approach when talking to a person, whoever that person may be, wether it be your enemy or friend or someone on the internet.


every thread turns into insults left and right over the stupidest things, there is no need for this at all...




let there be peace geez.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 11:28 AM
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Why did you use dodge and burn?? they change pixel colours - so straight away your lookingat a possibility that you unintentionaly changed the pupil / iris shape yourself.

Why not use the curves /hue facility, or maybe a good old invert / solarize instead??

Sorry i'd like to see the origional image before i comment about rumsfields eyes ...

But as for the dodge / burn.... not my first choice to change colour areas..



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by D4rk Kn1ght
Why did you use dodge and burn?? they change pixel colours - so straight away your lookingat a possibility that you unintentionaly changed the pupil / iris shape yourself.

Why not use the curves /hue facility, or maybe a good old invert / solarize instead??

Sorry i'd like to see the origional image before i comment about rumsfields eyes ...

But as for the dodge / burn.... not my first choice to change colour areas..


Like I have stated before in my previous posts, you can see the very first image "is" the original image, All I did was crop it and I did a close up. You can do that yourself andyou'll see what I mean.

I don't care if none of you believe in reptilians. I am not saying you are wrong or right, heck I may be wrong and then i may be right. We'll just have to wait and see. The last thing i want is to start a dumb argument here..



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 11:55 AM
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I noticed a couple pages back that there were pictures of people in glasses posted to show some contrast between them and the Rumsfeld photo. Its supposed to prove that the Rumsfeld photo really has a triangular pupil.

I hope you realize that the first photo posted is from a straight on perspective so there is no distortion. The second photo is taken with more angle to the face and you'll notice...his right eye is TOTALLY BLACK.



What you've done is actually prove that optical anomalies DO happen with cameras.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 12:09 PM
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group hug everyone :0



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