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Is the USA a Pornography Nation Due to its Protestant Majority?

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posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 12:41 AM
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The USA has more pornography than any nation in world history. It is all over the USA internet and world internet, American stores, and American liquor stores.

56% of Americans are Protestant and 28% are Catholic. Protestant ministers are frequently married to a wife or wives. Catholic Popes, Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests, Brothers, and Sisters are never married and take a vow of celibacy that has come from God.

Did Jesus Christ have sex? Catholics believe never while most Protestants believe never, although their role model in Church, the Protestant minister, probably has many times. Did the Virgin Mary have sex? Catholics believe never, but according to many Protestants she was passed around.

Protestants tend to have a short-term view of life, where Catholics believe in Eternity.

An excerpt from the "Catechism of the Catholic Church" (published in 1994):

"All the ordained ministers of the Latin Church, with the exception of permanent deacons, are normally chosen from men of faith who live a celibate life and who intend to remain celibate 'for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.' Called to consecrate themselves with undivided heart to the Lord and to 'the affairs of the Lord,' they give themselves entirely to God and to men. Celibacy is a sign of this new life to the service of which the Church's minister is consecrated; accepted with a joyous heart celibacy radiantly proclaims the Reign of God."

The USA needs Spiritual help generally, and two specific problems are Protestantism and pornography.

[edit on 27-9-2006 by GreatTech]




posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by GreatTech
Catholic Popes, Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests, Brothers, and Sisters are never married and take a vow of celibacy that has come from God.

although their role model in Church, the Protestant minister, probably has many times.

Protestants tend to have a short-term view of life, where Catholics believe in Eternity.



[1] Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
[2] Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
[3] Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Above are just 2 violations that the catholic church imposes on people, in direct violation of what God says in the Bible.

A person's only role model should be Jesus Christ.

A short term view of life? I don't think so, there is an everlasting life ahead in the future.

[edit on 27-9-2006 by dbrandt]



posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 07:07 AM
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I think it's a *post-religious* aspect of society.

I think that most religious demoninations don't regard porno as a good thing.

it's all bad

And just look at those good Italians - a billion euros of 'non-protestant' porn!

Italian porn tax

Whatever your opinion on the rights and wrongs of the industry, I don't think you should approach things from a sectarian standpoint. I prefer a much more even-handed approach: you're all loonies.
)

Only kidding

TD



posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by GreatTech
The USA has more pornography than any nation in world history.

I'm going to assume you are American, and have never been out of the country, niether physically nor online

That more isn't the gap spread you make it out to be.

In world history you say? It's kinda hard to have the rampant porn you speak of ......... without modern avenues of propegation.

Misfit

[edit on 27/9/06 by Misfit]



posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 09:17 AM
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The problem with porn in any country isn't protestantism, it's the lack of morals. The USA and the UK are supposed to be christian countries but the UK has one of the highest levels of teenage mothers in Europe. Church attendance (catholic and protestant both) is also falling in the UK. Maybe the two are linked? I know some teenagers (and twenty-somethings come to that) who've never been inside a church in their life except for weddings or funerals. Without moral guidance they're going to see anything 'fun' as quite natural, which over here includes petrol-bombing someone for even the silliest reason. "His eyes are too close together" sort-of thing.



posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 05:29 PM
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I am very unhappy with the nations, no matter whether mostly Protestant, Catholic, or other religion, that have legalized pornography. May all producers, distributors, and consumers of pornography be subject to advancement in the law that eliminates pornography completely.

Maybe pornography is one of the reasons that God will close the current World and Open a New World.



posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 06:29 PM
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dbrant is correct. We were warned about this very thing.

The institution of marriage between a man and a woman was set in order and ordained by God. God also set forth requirements for deacons/elders within a church ("...the husband of one wife...") Celebacy is fine and even beneficial if one is called to be celebate - Paul even addressed this subject. However as a requirement it's a perversion. We were warned about this apostasy as pointed out by dbrant. Perhaps the prohibition of marriage is one reason that the RCC has had such problems with sexual deviancy issues, including pedophilia. Although I would think that a pedophile would probably still be a pedophile whether married or not.

Pornography is trash. I wouldn't care if they banned it - I'm all for it.

However, I have a real problem with any edicts involving issues of state evolving from the catechisms of the RCC, for obvious reasons. There's also a fine line with certain freedoms being taken away. There is a reason for separation of church and state. The two will not reconcile until the Lord comes back. Whenever any government resorts to the catechism to resolve issues of state, history (and prophecy) naturally come to mind. Read your history books because we've all been down this road before.



posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Threadofhope
Perhaps the prohibition of marriage is one reason that the RCC has had such problems with sexual deviancy issues, including pedophilia.


Threadofhope, the problem of pedophilia is more prominent among Protestant ministers than Catholic Priests. Worse than both are public school teachers. Check out:

www.catholicleague.org/research/abuse_in_social_context.htm



posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 08:41 PM
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That was certainly a fast reply.

I'm not sure about the source of information in relation to the link you posted, however I don't need to go there. I'm not defending pedophilia, pornography, sin, or false doctrine regardless of whether it stems from the RCC or a Protestant denomination. Protestants brought much of Rome and Rome's apostasies into the denominations - although many of them were murdered by Rome for their faith, and because they would not compromise. We're supposed to be aware of apostasies that deviate from the pure Word of God, regardless of where they come from as we were repeatedly warned about them. I don't have a need to spend time proving to you the extent of the problems of pedophilia within the RCC. The problem is clear, and it seems to me that vows of celibacy haven't done much in terms of morals. The catechism you posted may 'sound good' but one must consider the source of hypocrisy.

The problem is sin, and until people's hearts are changed, the problems regardless of what they are, aren't going to go away. The churches have also deviated from the truth so much that they would undoubtedly crucify Christ again if He walked into their doors. Many of the religionists of today are of the same spiritual ilk as the pharisees and moneychangers that the Lord called snakes and vipers.

You mentioned stiffer penalties for pornography. I doubt stiffer penalties would eliminate pornography any more than prohibition eliminated alcohol. The problem will still exist, only it will go underground. The gospel has the power to cleanse sin and change a person's heart. Man made laws and stiffer penalties will not do that. Rome involving itself in matters of state won't do that. The Lord said, "If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me." Problem is, the real Christ has to be lifted up - He was and is the Word. The pure Word in truth made manifest in the flesh. Sadly, He will say to many who thought they were serving Him, "I never knew you."

Back to your original post. I do have a question for you that I would like for you to answer. The virgin birth of Yeshua is clear. I take it from your post then that you believe that somehow Miryam remained a virgin despite the fact that scripture is clear that Yeshua did in fact have sibllings. Please post back then with a reply to this question: Who was the mother of James?



posted on Sep, 27 2006 @ 09:06 PM
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I think it's just how American culuture has always been. Even before Columbus found Cuba. I think the major religion and the Entertainment culture in the US has a big impact. Since selling Sex in movies, records, videos, magazines, etc. I mean, I could go forever with all the odd places people use hints of Sex in advertising compared to different cultures and regions of the world. Plus, most US Americans tend to not objectify women as much as other regions or to over subjectify them in other places in the world.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 12:26 AM
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Threadofhope, the fact is that pedophilia remains a greater problem in the Protestant Church than the Catholic Church. The answer is obvious, but which religion needs greater reformation, in addition to knowing that the Protestant majority USA has more pornography than any nation in history.

May sex abuse in all its forms end!!!

I frequently regret that I was born in the USA!!!



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 02:29 AM
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whatcha got against pron?





whats wrong with secks?

animals do it all the time, are you telling me you aren't an animal in any form?

cha.



posted on Sep, 28 2006 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by GreatTech
Threadofhope, the fact is that pedophilia remains a greater problem in the Protestant Church than the Catholic Church. The answer is obvious, but which religion needs greater reformation, in addition to knowing that the Protestant majority USA has more pornography than any nation in history.


What've you got against protestants? It's not all their problem you know. In Ireland we've had problems with paedophile priests...

Ok, so the USA has a big porn industry. Hey, it makes money which from my (limited) experience seems to be the new god in America. Shouldn't you be looking at the entire culture and not blaming the churches for it? Besides, what can the churches do if people don't listen to them? In some places in Europe abortion is on the rise, and most European countries are catholic.

Sorry to off the point a bit here, but there's something else I've noticed. European (catholic) countries are pretty free with nudity and stuff on tv and on beaches. In the USA this isn't so. Show a (covered!) nipple at the superbowl and the networks go nuts! Show someone getting gunned down on prime-time tv however and nobody takes a second glance...

Back to the point. It's not the churches fault (protestant or catholic), that porn is so prevalent. Take a look at your country's money money money culture.



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