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Where is music headed???

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posted on Sep, 25 2006 @ 02:37 PM
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Is it jus me, or is music going down the drain? I am an oldies fan ( Led Zepp, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Panthera, GnR, Some Bon Jovi..well..Not oldies but rock mostly..)
And all these new bands coming out seem to be trying to get the torch passed on to them, but they will never be able to take it away from the original creators of rock. I think that music is overrated now..I mean all celebrities seem to want to sing nowadays? Paris Hilton???Lindsay Lohan??? Gimme a break! I wish GnR would've stayed together, they would number one now, and hardcore rap might've never been introduced. I wish rock would still be all over the charts. Who is with me? Where is music headed too?? We need a savior!Give me your opinions.
-Jimmy-




posted on Sep, 25 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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There is more music out there than you could imagine. You just need to know where to look. Just because it isn't in the mainstream doesn't mean it isn't as good, or better than the older music.

As for the sad state of affairs of the mainstream industry... I agree that it seems as if EVERYONE and their mother is now a singer/songwriter/producer. The money is just something that a lot of people just can't turn down. They see the oppurtunity to cash in when someone in a suit comes up to them and says "Gee....you are a successful actress with an already established fan base. Let's team you up with an award winning team of producers and writers and make a record! You are already getting press for your movies, and now for the album coming out...you have garunteed sales!" Sad but true. Music in the mainstream is not about music. It's about money. Fortunately, the record labels, distributing companies, and PR firms are beginning to hire younger kids in an in turn, their genuine interests in music are beginning to show in their bands and who they sign.

Another thing I can say is that people who claim to love music but continually bash on anything that doesn't rock wicked hard, in my eyes don't really love music. I don't particularly care for rap...but I can certainly say I appreciate it. It's a pretty raw form of expression by the artist, and IMHO that's what music is all about.

Not to pick on you....It just really gets my goose when people say they wish rap was never invented or that pop music is terrible...etc. If you hate the way the music industry is run, or you hate hearing what's on the radio....Start your own record label, Join a band!, or if you don't want to commit to that...turn off the radio, and support your local artists...go to a show, buy a super cheap cd, make an awesome mix, listen to college radio!

Kick it!



posted on Sep, 25 2006 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by YoBrandonRaps
Not to pick on you....It just really gets my goose when people say they wish rap was never invented or that pop music is terrible...etc. If you hate the way the music industry is run, or you hate hearing what's on the radio....Start your own record label, Join a band!, or if you don't want to commit to that...turn off the radio, and support your local artists...go to a show, buy a super cheap cd, make an awesome mix, listen to college radio!

Kick it!


I never said any of that, yes i am a big fan of rock, I also appreciate some rap, its one of the only forms of music where the artists can say whats on their minds without caring if they get a bad image from it or not i.e. Eminem. I don't hate pop either, I just miss the old songs, and I am already in a band, I play the bass. But I can see we agree in some ways formally. I like lyrical music, and songs like 'stairway to heaven and November rain are great examples. I also like Eminem's version of sing for the moment, which is excellent. But, I'd rather still see a rock band come out from the shadows and bring back rock and write great songs. Anyways, awaiting more opinions.

-Jimmy-



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 08:16 AM
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Music is always changing. I serioulsy doubt there will ever be another Deep Purple, GnRs or Led Zepp. There's a constant fusion of genres and styles, which (generally speaking) stops music getting too stagnent for too long.

If GnRs were still around in their original form (Rather than Rose and Buddies, new GnRs) I doubt they'd be playing the same music they were when they released Sweet Child, November Rain or anything from that era. Most bands change and progress their sound with time, so even if those bands were still around, they probably wouldn't be like they were. I

It's just an inevitable natural change in music.

I don't think music is going down the drain. I think music in the mainstream light at the minute is more of a product than an art, but at the same time, bands are no less bands because they're popular and if you look outside the mainstream, even at the smaller bands that inhabit the edge of mainstream music culture, there is still great music around.



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 08:30 AM
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The thing I miss most about today's music is guitar solos. I found a news article about the death of solos, and really, really would like them to come back full force. Can you imagine ANY Floyd song without Gilmour's canoodling? Or Hotel California by the Eagles without the wicked interlude? (which I guess isn't really a solo, since two guitars are playing, but you get my drift...) Please..any musicians out there...bring back the guitar solo!
www.cbc.ca...



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by hedder
The thing I miss most about today's music is guitar solos. I found a news article about the death of solos, and really, really would like them to come back full force. Can you imagine ANY Floyd song without Gilmour's canoodling? Or Hotel California by the Eagles without the wicked interlude? (which I guess isn't really a solo, since two guitars are playing, but you get my drift...) Please..any musicians out there...bring back the guitar solo!
www.cbc.ca...


You want sweet guitar? Listen to Dragonforce. I swear there is no way those guys are human....



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 01:45 PM
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Okay, music is not headed down the drain because there will always be some sort/style/genre of music around, but the thing that bothers me is the way people don't care about anything except money. I think it all got to their tiny heads... I just miss the old classic rock bands that we used to have from the 60's to the 90's. I still listen to them, and always will, but I will miss the 'genre' (like someone posted earlier) the guitar solo's and drum solo's. The closest or best band right at this moment would be Bon Jovi or U2. THATS it. Anyways, can anyone follow my point??

-Jimmy-



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 02:05 PM
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Well in some ways I have to agree with you and dissagree.. Music has evolved today, around youth and parents best interest (I guess..) and yeah I think most music sucks because it sounds like all the guys have bloody annoying voices that sounds like there freakin' crying and sound more femenine!



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by hedder
The thing I miss most about today's music is guitar solos.


I certainly agree with this. Heavy metal in particular used to have the obligational guitar solo in each song.

However, some of the stuff that's coming out of the UK I'm really liking. I can see trance music getting more popular in the future. Problem is, without a recognizable singer, it's harder to get popular. I'm sure everyone here has heard Juno Reactor's music for instance, but you probably don't even know it. (Matrix2,3)

I do miss Pink Floyd, old Metallica, and GnR though.



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 02:18 PM
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Theres good music out there, ya just gotta look for it , to hell with mtv/fuse crap and radio playlists.



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 02:26 PM
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I find a great deal of guitar solos irritating. A lot that have floated through the years have been 'Look at what I can do!' ego trips rather that 'Would this really make our song better/more expressive/ more enjoyable ect?'.

There are still solos in modern music though: John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Jack White of the White Stripes and Racontuers to name a couple.

I think that there are a lot of people out to make money in music at the moment, equally I think there are a lot of people out to make music and want to put it to a wide audience, this inevitably creates them (if they're successful) a great deal of money and I think that's fine.



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 02:27 PM
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agreed with the lys..

check out the Whats in your CD player thread.

most of the best music ever made never made the hitlist.

[edit on 26/9/06 by Creeping Jesus]



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Creeping Jesus
agreed with the lys..

check out the Whats in your CD player thread.

most of the best music ever made never made the hitlist.

[edit on 26/9/06 by Creeping Jesus]


over 100 pages..I am not going to read it all. But if I would post in there, the answer is Pink Floyd - Pulse ... That is what is in my cd player right now.

-Jimmy-



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by hedder
Can you imagine ANY Floyd song without Gilmour's canoodling?
www.cbc.ca...


Yes. Piper At The Gates of Dawn is a start.



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 03:19 PM
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Yes, but I think he means that Pink Floyd needed Gilmor and his guitar, I mean his solo's were crazzzzy..they still are I guess The difference between the rock bands like Floyd, Zepp, Eagles ect.. and the pop/hip hop bands of today is that in 20 years, nobody will remember today's bands, but will always remember the old rock bands that will still be playing on the radio.---

-Jimmy-



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 03:37 PM
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speaking from a producer point of view here, i think alot of the problem is that people start out making music to make music, but when they start making the big bucks they start bending to the will of the record companys, and making what the label tells them to. This is a trick alot of labels pull in their contracts. So if you are an aspiring musician, make sure you read your contract or have a lawyer do so, so you don't get trapped in the same way! I myself am in pursuit of a record contract, but only because i'd love to do music for a living, however I am not doing it to become famous or super rich, I just want to get my music out to the people in mass and make a decent living at the same time.

If you want some truly inspired instrumental music, i suggest picking up some EDM , ie trance, etc. The reason why alot of this music is great is because it is so based in emotion and not mechanics. Also because most edm producers make jack for their music so they haven't "sold out" as it would be. Alot of vocal trance is in a way kinda cheesy in the lyrics, but its not half as bad as the crap pop that is in the mainstream here in the US.

Anyways, don't despair, music isnt going to go anywhere, it is really the center of human existence and expression... have you ever met anyone who said they don't listen to at least some form of music? I highly doubt it. So just keep searchin and listenin to what you like not what the record company's tell you is good.

by the way... another reason i think alot of EDM producers are a bit more talented than alot of other musicians is in the fact that not only do we write the music, we also create the sounds to play the music, compose the piece, mix the track, and also master it alot of the time as well
So alot of us do many many different things, which is normally handled by probably about a large group of people in other music genres. This is my arguement when people try to say i'm not a real musician
No i can't play guitar, or drums, or bass, but i can play piano somewhat... but yea I do all those other things mentioned above


ok im gonna end this post... uncharacteristically long for a BTS post by me but in the words of Neil Young

Keep On Rockin



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 03:50 PM
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I agree with you, it is almost the same way with the sports world too. People start off in the 'minor' leagues playing for fun with friends. When they realize they are good, they decide to try the 'major' leagues and start getting paid for it. Well, inevitably, the money goes to their head and they want more and more and more and more. They move cities that offer them more. They tart playing ONLY for money. A great example of what I am saying here is the movie ' BASEketball'.

-Jimmy-



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 04:04 PM
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Well, in the short term (1-2 years) I think we're gonna continue to see
more and more celebrities taking to music, and that's not neccesarily a
bad thing, I mean Paris Hilton actually makes good musioc, and her
music videos are actually family friendly.

In the long term I think we're going to see fusion of fashions no one ever
thought would be fused, like heavy metal and techno.

I think in the next three decades we're going to see a new fusion of
neo classic (aka Beethoven etc.) and techno.

And form sof music that don't even exist yet.



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSpallacus

Originally posted by hedder
Can you imagine ANY Floyd song without Gilmour's canoodling?


Yes. Piper At The Gates of Dawn is a start.


Okay, replace Gilmour in the sentence with Barrett...pick, pick, pick...:shk:

PS. Jimmy...I'm a girl...



posted on Sep, 26 2006 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by hedder


PS. Jimmy...I'm a girl...


What did I say regarding girls? I like girls. Can you specify what I said wrong ??

-Jimmy-



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