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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 04:09 PM by MadMachinist


i think luwian still exist's but i will guess it.



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 04:23 PM by universalconsciousness


Morpheus's ships name , do you remember it ?

Nebuchadnezzar is the ships name, who was a king of babylon

am i getting close?

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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 04:44 PM by universalconsciousness


is the language Neshili or Ne#e?



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 04:50 PM by 23432



Originally posted by SportyMB
The ancient Persian language.......Pahlavi!!!!!!

Are you sure the langauge did died out in 1979? And not 1980.....


Sporty

EDIT: Pahlavi is a dailect of Chaldaic

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I am quite sure .

Nevertheless , you are an amazing bag of info too , I have not heard of Chaldaic since high school years .




What was the language of the song which sounded a bit like Sumerian and a bit like Hittite ?
What was it that made my grandma's eyes go really really sad when she sung about Ramesses backside getting kicked ?



Horses - Weapons - Metals

2 - 3 - 4 - 3 - 2

A sunken island in the middle of the ocean



4000 years old Anatolian Dam

Arrrgh , It still eludes me .




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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 04:55 PM by 23432



Originally posted by universalconsciousness
Morpheus's ships name , do you remember it ?

Nebuchadnezzar is the ships name, who was a king of babylon

am i getting close?

[edit on 26-9-2006 by universalconsciousness]



Nebuchadnezzar II is the one which has a primary relation to 23432 , to the song grandma sung and it's language , nope .

What a great nick btw ?




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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:07 PM by 23432



Originally posted by MadMachinist
i think luwian still exist's but i will guess it.



Not a bad guess at al MadMachinist , not a bad one at all .



Some sounds in Luwian may well be similar but I am afraid I have only heard it spoken once , briefly .


The bearers of this language were renown to their neigbours for their travels and warlike qualities
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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:08 PM by 23432



Originally posted by universalconsciousness
is the language Neshili or Ne#e?






Nope , too east .



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:11 PM by soficrow


Is it from the Caucasus?

...I'm thinking one of hyphenated families.

???



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:15 PM by benevolent tyrant


Welcome 23432! Welcome to Above Top Secret!

I would like to thank you for joining this community and, at the same time, I'd like to thank you for having such a wonderful introductory thread. It would seem that you have led quite a few members on quite the intellectual and geographical journey.

I'd like to take a complete shot in the dark and ask whether you are part of the ancient Nehri peoples of the mountaineous regions of Northwest Afghanistan? The Aryans were from this region.



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:17 PM by SportyMB


This is a WAG....but here goes, Tarpanoidni aka Tarpan (Konik)


Sporty

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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:26 PM by MadMachinist


is it anatolian maybe paliac

or also later the luwian would be carian

also lydian
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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:28 PM by universalconsciousness


The Mitanni warriors were called marya, is the language called maryan?




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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:33 PM by 23432



Originally posted by soficrow
Is it from the Caucasus?

...I'm thinking one of hyphenated families.

???


yep

First guess and nicely done .

Yes indeed the language was one of Caucasus linguistic families .




but which one ?

it certainly was not " this " language at www.nartimus.com... , she spoke to me in that language most of the time and sung to me too .

Circassian - Adyge - Kabartey languages are still spoken by me and perhaps another 3 - 4 million around the world .



No extinction here , yet !



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:43 PM by 23432



Originally posted by benevolent tyrant
Welcome 23432! Welcome to Above Top Secret!

I would like to thank you for joining this community and, at the same time, I'd like to thank you for having such a wonderful introductory thread. It would seem that you have led quite a few members on quite the intellectual and geographical journey.

I'd like to take a complete shot in the dark and ask whether you are part of the ancient Nehri peoples of the mountaineous regions of Northwest Afghanistan? The Aryans were from this region.




Thank you Benevolent Tyrant ;

I must thank ALL those who posted here , it is they who are taking me and everyone else on a great thread .


Northwest of Afghanistan , where approx. 1100 years ago , a book was written by Kashgarian Mahmud .

In which he writes about 23432.

Incidentially , 23432 is also related to Caucasia too .

Don't quote me on this but I believe that the Nehri's became Zoroistanis , some still are in Afganistan most are to be found in Persia - Iran .



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:44 PM by 23432



Originally posted by SportyMB
This is a WAG....but here goes, Tarpanoidni aka Tarpan (Konik)


Sporty

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Nope , sorry Sporty .




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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:46 PM by soficrow



Originally posted by 23432

Originally posted by soficrow
Is it from the Caucasus?

...I'm thinking one of hyphenated families.




yep

First guess and nicely done .

Yes indeed the language was one of Caucasus linguistic families .





Thank you, thank you.

But, but, I need to go now! And I'm soo close!





but which one ?





I originally was looking at the Ubykh language - but my sources say the last speaker died in 1992(?).

...Your horseriding warlike ancestors were mongolian, right?

BTW - The Chinese students I know were/are taught to respect Ghengis Khan. And he was quite a guy in many ways...

...Also - are you claiming Sufi lineage?

Some treasures from my search:

"Should we mourn the loss of Eyak or Ubykh any less than the loss of the panda or California condor?"




Languages die like rivers
Words wrapped around your tongue today
Are broken to the shape of thought
Between your teeth and lips speaking
Now and today
Shall be faded hieroglyphics
Ten thousand years from now.

- Carl Sandburg

Ninety percent of the world’s languages are expected to become extinct in the next hundred years. The reasons are complex; the implications are even more so. Culture, memory, identity and a host of other issues surround these extinctions and a sense
of panic attends the discussion.




Thanks again, sofi



had to lose that nasty link

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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:47 PM by SportyMB


Well, This gonna take a little team work

Here's what wiki has to say.
en.wikipedia.org...

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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 05:55 PM by soficrow



Originally posted by SportyMB
Well, This gonna take a little team work

Here's what wiki has to say.
en.wikipedia.org...






I think you're right sporty.

BTW - did you notice that Narts sounds almost exactly like Norse if you say it quick?

Isn't language just so interesting?



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 06:06 PM by SportyMB


norse...norsey..lol

I guess this is an ATS game....first one for me, I guess I'll give it a try.

Here's a good link that a lot to say.

www.geocities.com...



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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 06:08 PM by 23432



Originally posted by soficrow
.





Thank you, thank you.

But, but, I need to go now! And I'm soo close!





but which one ?





I originally was looking at the Ubykh language - but my sources say the last speaker died in 1992(?).

...Your horseriding warlike ancestors were mongolian, right?

BTW - The Chinese students I know were/are taught to respect Ghengis Khan. And he was quite a guy in many ways...

...Also - are you claiming Sufi lineage?

Some treasures from my search:

"Should we mourn the loss of Eyak or Ubykh any less than the loss of the panda or California condor?"




Languages die like rivers
Words wrapped around your tongue today
Are broken to the shape of thought
Between your teeth and lips speaking
Now and today
Shall be faded hieroglyphics
Ten thousand years from now.

- Carl Sandburg

Ninety percent of the world’s languages are expected to become extinct in the next hundred years. The reasons are complex; the implications are even more so. Culture, memory, identity and a host of other issues surround these extinctions and a sense
of panic attends the discussion.




Thanks again, sofi



had to lose that nasty link

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Bravo Sofi , Mygrandma use to sing to me in Ubykh !

My Ancestors were caucasians , about the sufi line , hmmmm , you are well ahead of anyone else so far Sofi !





Actually , it was Nakhsibendi .


Well , do tell me which restaurant would you like to dine and when ?






23432


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