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”Behold, I tell you a mystery*; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.” 1Corinthians 15:51-53.
”For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles [that’s us] -- if indeed you have heard of the dispensation of God's grace which was given TO me FOR you; that by revelation there was made known TO ME the mystery, as I wrote before in brief.” Ephesians 3:1-3.
“But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus [dead raised imperishable = 1Cor. 15:52]. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet [1Cor. 15:52] of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up* [harpazo #726 = Rapture] together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.” 1Thessalonians 4:13-17.
Now as to the times and the epochs, brethren, you have no need of anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know full well that the Day of the Lord WILL COME just like a thief in the night.
Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ AND our gathering together to Him[1Thes. 4:16+17], that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord HAS COME.” 2Thessalonians 2:1-2.
“So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, "Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?" He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority . . .”. Acts 1:6+7.
"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.” Matthew 24:36.
Originally posted by Terral
While many among the Denominations can agree upon the notion that a ‘Rapture’ certainly exists in Scripture.......
FlyersFan >> That's right. No Rapture. No great promise. No easy out.
Originally posted by Terral
Your unbelief has no place on this thread at all.
You are free to “quote >>” from ...
Nobody cares what others believe or your opinions about when they began or stopped believing them. T
I searched the topic “Rapture” and found no thread titles ...
Please write on the topic ...
Flyer >> Wrong. This site is a place of discussion, education, and debate. That's the entire purpose of this site. If you can't hold your position against someone who disagrees with it .. then that's your problem.
Flyer >> I'm free to quote from anything I darn well please. I don't need your permission. I quoted Sacred Scripture right back to you.
Flyer >> It's the Word of God. Guess if you don't like what God says, then you'll have to take it up with Him.
Terral Original >> “Nobody cares what others believe or your opinions about when they began or stopped believing them.”
Flyer >> You can't speak for everyone.
Flyer >> Then do another search. Religion ... BTS .. (snip)
Terral Original >> Please write on the topic ...
Flyer >> I did. Rapture. You MISTAKENLY said that many denominations agree it exists in scripture.
Flyer >> The FACT is that almost all christians agree that it does NOT exist at all in scripture. In fact, MOST christians agree that scripture says just the opposite of 'rapture'.
Flyer >> The FACT that failed Anglican Priest Nelson Darby . . .
Flyer >> If you have a Rapture agenda, then perhaps tribfarces.com would be a better place to discuss it than here. THIS place is for discussion, debate and education. Information regarding the origins of the rapture cult are definately on topic.
Marg >> Flyers is right the Rapture or so called Rapture is nothing more than an invention of the latest century by The Rapture Cult was started by failed Anglican Priest Nelson Darby in the mid-1800s.
Marg >> It was a matter of personal interpretation and nothing else.
Marg >> And like she say this is ATS and anybody can bring any comments to any thread post on this board.
Marg >> If people can believe on a Virgin face on a toast they would belive anything that so called prophets of modern day will bring to their followers.
Shar >> Dont dismiss Matthew 24:29
Shar >> (Matt. 24:29+30)
Shar’s commentary >> Notice the words AFTER THE TRIBULATION. Not Before.
“But He answered and said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24.
"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.” Matthew 24:14.
Originally posted by marg6043
This thread belongs in PTS.
Deim >> Sorry but . . As stated by flyer the Rapture is nothing more then a myth, much like how jesus was born on X-mas and all of the other holidays that were stolen from other religions in order to convert pagans to christianity.
“When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched* Philip away; and the eunuch no longer saw him, but went on his way rejoicing.” Acts 8:39.
“For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.” 1Thess. 4:16-17.
Deim >> When you use 'Rapture Conspiracy' as the name of your thread then you should expect people to debate with you especially on a topic regarding this.
Deim >> Flyers is also correct that only a small part of christians believe in the rapture.
Deim >> Think about it... it was something that was created in the 1800's in the United States... and only the denominations in the USA preach the Rapture(For the most part), only 5-10% of Christians(which are born again protestants for the most part) believe in the rapture. Here are just the first few sources I was able to pull up from google and wikipedia.
Deim >> Catholics View(Largest denomination in the world by the way with 1billion out of the 2.4 christians being catholic)
Deim >> And this may be off topic a bit.. but the end of days mentioned in the Bible make much more sense when you associate them around the time the bible was written rather then in this day and age.