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who will join me to link the alpha and the omega? biblebookdeadthisliving

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posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by queenannie38

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Two phrases, same ingredients:


Bibles Mere Telltales
be all time best seller



Rebel Sells Timetable



Rebel Sells Timetable?

interesting, considering the christian dates anagram reveals what it does, and cchristians have forcasted the name of the date for awhile now...




posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 09:30 PM
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christian dates anagram?

may i have an F5, please?
(refresh)




posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 10:53 PM
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Animals Solemn Might
name im all things som
Misalignment Shalom

wordsmith.org...



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by queenannie38
christian dates anagram?

may i have an F5, please?
(refresh)



yes you may. last page among the "anagrams":

all our sunday june thirteenth twenty ten
Earth sea jetty oil hurt wet Lend Tunny Nun
all our sunday june thirteenth twenty ten

posted the day before as a prediction about what to expect on sunday june thirteenth twenty ten, a christian date forcasted for thousands of years, supposedly according to history...



posted on Jun, 13 2010 @ 11:46 PM
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Many John Paul Geode have put to ire,
They ask "Anagram making will he ever tire".
Once, Twice, even thrice
He posts new anagrams almost every night.
Some might say that is not being so bright.
"Maybe demonic, maybe psychotic, maybe neurotic" they say.
If this be the case, at least he is insane in a harmless way.

Rearrange this, rearrange that,
Methinks anagrams are getting "old hat".
John Paul Geode posts them almost every day.
Many thing he is really strange being that way.
It is not that he is neurotic, or psychotic, or demonic,
It is just because he can get them by means electronic!

One can navigate to the right site on the web.
There you can type words at random,
And they will be digested without abandon.
With letters rearranged every which way.
You can scroll and choose, Oh what play!
Our desire to see more anagrams is through.
We wonder if John Paul Geode can come up with something new.




Viel schwarze Vögel ziehen
Hoch über Land und Meer,
Und wo sie erscheinen, da fliehen
Die Feinde vor ihnen her.
Sie lassen jäh sich fallen
Vom Himmel tiefbodenwärts.
Sie schlagen die ehernen Krallen
Dem Gegner mitten ins Herz.



T6+AD
Can anyone tell me the meaning?



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 12:41 AM
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if only you knew, my friend....

if only you knew

and i would tell you but i do not think you have room in your mind to listen to me.

i now know things that are impossible to know.
and i know them not as belief but as empirical experiential fact.
(and to be honest, i still can't believe a good part of it!)



O how fair the luster shining within that pearl of great price!



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by Funkydung
the opposite and enemy of love is fear. you can tell how far i got hahaha
[edit on 24-9-2006 by Funkydung]


Long time lurker of this thread, E.T. Ooo! Word play! Can I try?

The opposite and enemy of love is evol [evil]... evolution, scientific, not spiritual.

Mirror image: evil = live. Evil live(s) - in love... possible? Hmm.



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 01:37 AM
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i now know things that are impossible to know. and i know them not as belief but as empirical experiential fact. (and to be honest, i still can't believe a good part of it!)


We seem to have a logical contradiction here. If something is impossible to know, then how do you know them. If you know these things, then it is possible to know them; otherwise, you would not know them. It is impossible to know what is impossible to know because by knowing then it is possible then to know. Hence you cannot know what is possible to know. Simply put if you know then it is possible to know. Also empirical experiential fact is indeed may be a method of knowing.




and i would tell you but i do not think you have room in your mind to listen to me.


Well why don't you try to enlighten me anyway. You might be surprised. Also it seems that you statement is intended to be an insult to me.

T6+AD
Who can tell me what this means?



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by jagdflieger



Viel schwarze Vögel ziehen
Hoch über Land und Meer,
Und wo sie erscheinen, da fliehen
Die Feinde vor ihnen her.
Sie lassen jäh sich fallen
Vom Himmel tiefbodenwärts.
Sie schlagen die ehernen Krallen
Dem Gegner mitten ins Herz.



T6+AD
Can anyone tell me the meaning?



meaning?

one might wonder what meaning is there without intention.
one might wonder what intention means from one who harbors intentions.

i may be my brothers and sisters keeper, but as for the languages they put between me and them....

i just don't feel the need to divide myself up into as many parts as there are words in every language known and otherwise, let those who seek that prize get lost in their own babbling lies.

but, if it is an answer you need and so choose to demand
perhaps it should be offered from words of another land?



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by jagdflieger

It is just because he can get them by means electronic!



sure.

does this mean the means by which it was constructed was electronic as well?

the point seems moot unless you discredit each and every encryption and encoding in every word in every language.... language that existed prior to "electronics".

just some of my thoughts,
ET



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by jagdflieger
Well why don't you try to enlighten me anyway. You might be surprised.


don't take this personal, but i don't seek to enlighten anyone. if it happens accidentally, then so be it and thank GOD - the true source of all light!

and as far as being surprised, no.
i wouldn't be.

if you were meant to be enlightened by anything i might have to say, especially in regard to John Paul's unique verbal adventures in the course of linking the A and the O, then you wouldn't be posting your little verse about his anagram-itis, all the while keeping your mind and ears SHUT.


Also it seems that you statement is intended to be an insult to me.


oh, no.
it might have sounded that way - a lot like what anyone else might say to another when they can't even find common ground upon which to argue - but i would never insult you, or anyone, purposefully and pointlessly.

i have no reason to put anyone down. i sometimes am rather sharp...when i'm blunt...but i prefer that to "pointedly dull."

so if i wasn't trying to jab you, why did i say that?

well, because it is true.
there are things that i have witnessed or otherwise had some sort of absolute empirical proof shown to me (and quite often, a companion), that defy explanation and still elude me as far as understanding how and why they fit in with our presently known reality. i can't say i truly believe these things happen(ed) even though i know they did, without a single tiny shred of doubt, seeing and sensing with all my physical senses and who knows what with the rest of my senses.

stuff happens
i can't believe it!
but now i KNOW it.

that's the reason these anagrams make sense to me - i read every one of them because the communication is on-going and i don't want to miss a single cue or clue.

there might be a lot in all this that John is sharing, for everyone - not all for everyone but bits and pieces here and there - everyone gets some of the pie!

but for the most part, everyone else chooses to ridicule or patronize or just straight-up ignore what is going on right here.

i guess that's okay, though
free will is the law, you know
everyone is free to miss out on all the free treasure floating around above our heads, these very days!



posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by jagdflieger
T6+AD
Who can tell me what this means?





posted on Jun, 14 2010 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by jagdflieger



Viel schwarze Vögel ziehen
Hoch über Land und Meer,
Und wo sie erscheinen, da fliehen
Die Feinde vor ihnen her.
Sie lassen jäh sich fallen
Vom Himmel tiefbodenwärts.
Sie schlagen die ehernen Krallen
Dem Gegner mitten ins Herz.



T6+AD
Can anyone tell me the meaning?



Any "ONE" can tell you .....



We seem to have a logical contradiction here.


what does any "ONE" need to communicate any "ONE" idea with 38 words consisting of over a hundred symbols?

you request "one" in the form of many intentions?

how about if i learn and master my friends and families own language first
and then maybe perhaps i'd be better equiped to deal with your cursed

if being literate for you only means from left to right
eventually you'll be chasing your tail ... a funny sight



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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My postings in this thread may confirm the rumor
That Queenannie38 and John Paul have no sense of humor.
Indeed they seem to have failed the test,
And do not realize the posts are done in jest.
One points to their foibles by means poetic;
Their replies are nothing but pure acetic.
The intent was to give a smile as a result;
Instead they replied back with an insult.
When you cannot smile about a friendly jibe, it is tragic.
Indeed your life has lost some of its magic.
Remember if your ego becomes too inflate;
God will find a way to make it deflate.
So learn to laugh, don't be so serious;
Otherwise you may become insane delirious!

Does "T6+AD" have a meaning you may ask?
Seek "the golden oak leaves" to ease the task.



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:12 PM
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actually, we both do have a sense of humor - if you read some of my other posts, you might see this although i do have a tendency to be more serious here at ATS.

at times, though, i can be rather funny, or so it seems from my own reaction and that of other posters.
my sense of humor is very very dry

and it certainly doesn't make itself known in this thread, for sure.
so i can't fault you for thinking i don't have one, at all.

BUT, when i read your poems posted here, i do realize they are in jest although the *vibe* i get is one of you laughing heartily but not really in an inviting manner.

i don't mind laughing at myself
and i certainly don't mind being laughed at, even when i'm serious.

but i do have a problem with someone laughing at one of my friends, when they don't seem to be sharing in the cheer.

so that is the motivation behind my replies to you, here in this thread.
i just wanted to explain myself somewhat as well as to let you know that i am not without humor or an appreciation for wit, at all - not that it should matter to me what you might think but at any rate, i feel the need to let you know these things.

and i must say, re-reading your poems (which do rhyme and flow very nicely, i must say - being a poet of some sort, myself), keeping the idea in my head that you are just playing around with a sense of fun being your motivation...that what you are saying doesn't strike me as funny, at all!

not that i have an ego or that i am taking all this WAY TOO serious (it is serious but there is a limit to everything, imo) - just that i don't find much of anything that tickles my funny bone - except for this one part:


He posts new anagrams almost every night.
Some might say that is not being so bright.
"Maybe demonic, maybe psychotic, maybe neurotic" they say.
If this be the case, at least he is insane in a harmless way.


THAT did make me chuckle, both times. it is cute.

i do intend on reading some more of your posts, in other threads, in order to get a clearer idea of where you are coming from and appreciate your sense of humor for what it is, which is a part of your personality - making it a valuable thing in and of itself.




posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by jagdflieger
Does "T6+AD" have a meaning you may ask?
Seek "the golden oak leaves" to ease the task.


Hans Ulrich Rudel?



posted on Jun, 15 2010 @ 11:12 PM
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Indeed. (T6+AD) was his aircraft ID. Now remember this: Today one can be a hero, tomorrow you can be a zero. Today you can be the pinnacle of fame, tomorrow in the hall of shame. He was the considered the highest of heroes (the only man ever to receive the golden oak leaves), yet for all his endeavors his cause was still lost. Fame and glory can be fleeting. Sometimes the only thing that separates a hero from the villain is which side you are on (the soviets considered Rudel an arch villain). Among aviation enthusiasts, Rudel has regained some admiration and reputation for his ability to fly a clumsy airplane (Ju 87), survive, and prevail. It is not for his political views. Men like him can be enlightening studies. It teaches us that our opponents can be just as committed to their ideals as we are committed to our ideals, and they will fight just as hard for their ideals as we will fight for our ideals.

In a way I find Rudel somewhat refreshing. For with him, you always knew where he stood. Even though his views were wrong, he never hid them (as far as I know) in the name of political correctness (as many of his peers in the Luftwaffe did). After the war many German scientists (chief among them was Wernher von Braun, but their were many others) came to the USA to work and build weapons and rockets for the Americans. Now you had men who happily built weapons for Hitler, now happily building weapons for the USA. I always wondered if those men would have just as happily built weapons for Stalin if they ended up one the other side of the Iron Curtain. Did these scientists change their "political views" and "principles" to conform to the current form of political correctness and would they change their "principles" if there was a better pay check in some other country? I personally find this an interesting subject to consider.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by jagdflieger
My postings in this thread may confirm the rumor
That Queenannie38 and John Paul have no sense of humor.


under the delusion that the agenda was somehow your cause
entering with prejudice and bigotry, expecting laughter at flaws?



Indeed they seem to have failed the test,
And do not realize the posts are done in jest.


and how funny was your tests?
me the extention of your quests?

if it offends that real tests are conforming to the institutions you support
which obviously results in a test of juries, unlimited laws, and your court
if it seems I am offended by the rhetoric I contort to conform to your sort…



One points to their foibles by means poetic;
Their replies are nothing but pure acetic.


Certainly feel free to supply a way to conform to the demands of your society
Humor in finding a punch line to a joke with no punch line, tests an endless fee
Manditory expectations needed to be written as laws perpetrating for all eternity?




The intent was to give a smile as a result;
Instead they replied back with an insult.


Well, see now that I can jump on board with now, and for awhile…
In the future I will know you calling me insane should make me smile


When you cannot smile about a friendly jibe, it is tragic.
Indeed your life has lost some of its magic.
Remember if your ego becomes too inflate;
God will find a way to make it deflate.


Why does your god create free will ego, only to destroy it? the lesson came too late
Now that you have deflated my ego, let the super-ego or unconscious id lead my fate?



So learn to laugh, don't be so serious;
Otherwise you may become insane delirious!


And now I smile because I can know that insane and delirious are meant to make me smile
Now with my ego absent, it no longer does steer, what options are left if not hearing fear?

The institutions we support take away ego then what choices are left?
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Please take the time to review the definitions of the three divisions of the psyche in the psychoanalytic theory.



Main Entry: ego
Pronunciation: \ˈē-(ˌ)gō also ˈe-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural egos
Etymology: New Latin, from Latin, I — more at I
Date: 1789
1 : the self especially as contrasted with another self or the world
2 a : EGOTISM 2 b : SELF-ESTEEM 1
3 : the one of the three divisions of the psyche in psychoanalytic theory that serves as the organized conscious mediator between the person and reality especially by functioning both in the perception of and adaptation to reality — compare ID, SUPEREGO
— ego•less adjective

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Main Entry: su•per•ego
Pronunciation: \ˌsü-pər-ˈē-(ˌ)gō also -ˈe-(ˌ)gō\
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, translation of German Über-ich, from über over + ich I
Date: 1919
: the one of the three divisions of the psyche in psychoanalytic theory that is only partly conscious, represents internalization of parental conscience and the rules of society, and functions to reward and punish through a system of moral attitudes, conscience, and a sense of guilt — compare EGO, ID

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Main Entry: id
Pronunciation: \ˈid\
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Latin, it
Date: 1924
: the one of the three divisions of the psyche in psychoanalytic theory that is completely unconscious and is the source of psychic energy derived from instinctual needs and drives — compare EGO, SUPEREGO



EGO =
organized conscious mediator
functioning both in the perception of and adaptation to reality



So, if you are anti-ego you are not in favor of which of the following:
-organization/ anti-chaos/ anti-anarchy
-LIFE, consciousness, Self Awareness
-mediator, mediation (thinking)
-functioning perception
-adaptation to reality


jagdflieger,
would you prefer "your flock" be unorganized chaotic anti-consciousness inanimate unthinking broken non-perceptivity incapable of adaptation to reality?

Perhaps a sense of humor is a final requirement
In order to laugh at myself at the time I (ego) spent

If you love and respect aviation heroes so much and so well
Please Review Joseph Kittinger and the speed at which he fell



On August 16, 1960, he made the final jump from the Excelsior III at 102,800 feet (31,300 m).[1] Towing a small drogue parachute for initial stabilization, he fell for four minutes and 36 seconds, reaching a maximum speed of 614 miles per hour (988 km/h)[2][3] before opening his parachute at 18,000 feet (5,500 m). Pressurization for his right glove malfunctioned during the ascent, and his right hand swelled up to twice its normal size.[4][5] He set historical numbers for highest balloon ascent, highest parachute jump, longest drogue-fall (four minutes), and fastest speed by a human being through the atmosphere.[6] These are still current USAF records, but were not submitted for aerospace world records to the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI).


Now there is debate whether or not joseph reached the speed of sound and became the best
But of course we’ll never know so long as we are accustomed to participating in some egos’ test…

and in the end i may prove to be the isane fink
but i can honestly say thanks for making me think,

ET

[edit on 17-6-2010 by Esoteric Teacher]



posted on Jun, 19 2010 @ 08:11 PM
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i, som, desire no need to decieve or to lie
but every answer i find that i can supply
seems greeted by a test, and 3 more "Why?"
on with this thread a share buy and bye
what i think i may know before i must die
to maybe earn a few more colored feathers, i try
and spirallying rainbow colored irises in my eye
only helping to do what i interpret i must tie...
i, som, desire no mask to where, no need 2 lie...

religion = anti-ego
G.O.D. = Government of Dollars ... the Super Ego .....

And the ID is defined as totally unconscious .....
perhaps always destined to hear only: "shush"!

boo duh .. buddah
con few, SHUSH! .... confucious


"the 33rd degree reveals all"


would that be latitude or longitude?

who is in charge of social engineering?
engineering social actions and behaviors?

are the side effects recognized and acknowledged by those who are participating in harvesting the thoughts of the young....

are the encryptions and encodings supplied that reflect future events a nice tool to have when one meshes the concept of money into the mix???

how can one morally and ethically support a system where money calls the shots and the words tell the future?

how many laws must i abide by in order to be your good neighbor?
how many laws govern over our perception?

if you think there is a flaw in my interpretation,
maybe you are right,
ET



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