who will join me to link the alpha and the omega? biblebookdeadthisliving

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

are we not making progress?

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Teacher..why do you ask? Does not the Teacher become the student?

Peace

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Originally posted by HIFIGUY

Teacher..why do you ask? Does not the Teacher become the student?

Peace

The teacher knows to always be learning.

As the seed is the fruit, the fruit is the seed.

As the student is the teacher, the teacher is the student.

Peace

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Originally posted by LoneGunMan
HIFIGUY, I think you are missing the point. Of course God is the Alpha and the Omega. This exercise is for us here on earth not God. We are the ones that until we FULLY understand the Alpha and the Omega will not get off the wheel until we do know it like Jesus did.

Want the Godhead do you?

What is it that you truly hope to achieve in your knowledge?

Peace

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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

The teacher knows to always be learning.

Peace

Not the Master

Peace

Originally posted by HIFIGUY

What is it that you truly hope to achieve in your knowledge?

Peace

I'm not answering for LoneGunMan, i'm sure truth will exist in his response as well.

As for me, i seek truth compliance with what opposes truth, and that which opposes love.

as to what is to be achieved, nothing but sharing the findings of the journey.

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Originally posted by HIFIGUY

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

The teacher knows to always be learning.

Peace

Not the Master

Peace

i thank you.

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by HIFIGUY

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

The teacher knows to always be learning.

Peace

Not the Master

Peace

i thank you.

There is only one Master. The Father the Almighty. Creator of Heaven and Earth. Of all that is seen and unseen.

When you seek that which opposes Truth, you seek that with opposes Jesus Christ. If you look for it, it will find you as I think it may have already.

AntiChrist is AntiTruth. and it sounds as though your seeking just that.

Why does he that can do such good, who posses freedom and happiness and joy seek out that which will harm others? Let us be rid of darkness that seeks to harm others. If it be elusive..then let it be just that.

Your words are seeking the vipers Brood.

Peace







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Genesis, chapter 11 verse 9:

“Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.”
www.blueletterbible.org...

Quran / Koran, chapter 9 verse 11:

[9.11] ... We make the communications clear for a people who know.
www.hti.umich.edu...

and I speak this way..

So in hearing they do not hear.
and in seeing they do not see.

Regarding Children:

The Kingdom of God is for ones such as these....

Peace

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Originally posted by HIFIGUY

When you seek that which opposes Truth, you seek that with opposes Jesus Christ.

And it is that which opposes Jesus Christ that keeps your entire race from truth. So either join the battle, or stop finding reasons to flee from your god.

AntiChrist is AntiTruth. and it sounds as though your seeking just that.

without knowing the truth, what basis for comparison do you have?

Why does he that can do such good, who posses freedom and happiness and joy seek out that which will harm others?

Others are already in harms way. And those who have the ability to do such good, and posses such freedom to do so may be obligated to do so, in order for their kin to no longer endure that which harms them, whether consciously aware of it or not.

Let us be rid of darkness that seeks to harm others. If it be elusive..then let it be just that.

See no Evil, Hear no Evil, Speak no Evil is your idea of how to fix the problems in today's world?

Is that what Jesus would do?

See no, hear no, speak no ... that approach sounds like 3 monkeys i know.

Your words are seeking the vipers Brood.

We've already been bit. I seek the serum. You suggest i shouldn't see the serum, shouldn't hear the serum, and shouldn't speak about the serum?

What is your agenda in this thread?

Have you not read through it, and exerted enough empathy to understand what is being shared?


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The Serum you seek is of folley.

Jesus Christ is the Serum. Listen to his way and the truth will be made
known.

But..regarding being bit..:

Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Pretty Simple.

Dont go searching for it. Eve did and look what happened.

Peace


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Originally posted by HIFIGUY
The Serum you seek is of folley.

Jesus Christ is the Serum. Listen to his way and the truth will be made
known.

Forgive me if i misunderstand you, but it seems to me that you are instructing me to not live up to Jesus's standards, but rather abide by your expectations instead of Christ's.

I choose to do more than listen to his way, and the way of the truth, i choose to live up to it.

"Love thy enemy"
- Jesus

But..regarding being bit..:

Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Pretty Simple.

Are you implying that the above attributes are assigned to me by god, or are you assigning these attributes?

In my actions and my behaviors, defined by my intentions, refined by my blind faith in god, and with love for the truth in my heart, i know god knows me better than i know myself.

HIFIGUY,

Are you implying that i "have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity".

Are you implying that i am "full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice"?

Are you implying that i am an avid practitioner of "gossip & slanderering"?

Are you implying that i am a "God-hater"?

Are you implying that i am "insolent, arrogant and boastful"?

Are you implying that i am "inventing ways of doing evil"?

Are you implying that i am "disobeying my parents"?

Are you implying that i am "senseless"?

Are you implying that i am "faithless"?

Are you implying that i am "heartless"?

Are you implying that i am "ruthless"?

Are you implying that i "deserve death"?

Are you implying that i "approve of those who practice them"?

Either you are accusing me as The Accuser would, or you are passing judgment as God would, and are these not the things you accuse me of:

1) did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God
2) I have a depraved mind,
3) I intend to do what ought not to be done.
4) I am Wicked
5) I am Evil
6) I am Greedy
7) I am depraved
8) I am full of envy
9) I am full of murder
10) I am full of strife
11) I am full of deceit
12) I am full of malice
13) I gossip
14) I slandere
15) I hate god
16) I am insolent
17) I am arrogant
18) I am boastful
19) I invent ways of doing evil
20) I disobey my parents
21) I am senseless
22) I am faithless
23) I am heartless
24) I am ruthless.
25) I do such things that make me deserve death,
26) And that I approve of those who practice such things

Do my actions reflect these attributes?
Do my behaviors reflect these attributes?
Do my intentions reflect these attributes?

i thank you,
john


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what words do i use that you percieve as a threat?

what is it that you think i am trying to take from you or those whom you love?

Need I speak in Simpler Words?

Is it not enough to walk in the way of Christ?

You search for that which opposes Good.

Just because you can search for it..doesnt mean you should.

Eve did just that. " God...why shouldnt I eat the fruit "?

Because youll die.

Any questions? The answer you search for is leads to Death. The road is already tough enough for humanity without you giving people a direct road map to the exact opposite of Truth.

Just because you can build the Nuclear Bomb doenst mean you should. Even Einstein knew this.

Why explore the opposite or Truth when you dont even know Truth Lol.

We are to seek out Good. You are seeking out the stumbling block of man.

The Stumbling block is within each of us and the road map is in Christ Teachings and ways..not in foolish word play. You arent linking the Alpha and the Omega. He is the one in the same.

Like Mother Theresa Said in a quote...

You see, in the final analysis, it's all between you and God;
It was never between you and them anyway.

If the scripture speaks to you..then it speaks to you. What is says is that when you partake in certain ways, your mind is given over to being depraved.

Love The Father. Love one another. Thats what Christ asked. Start There.

Peace

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Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Need I speak in Simpler Words?

Perhaps i should as well.

what words do i use that you percieve as a threat?

what is it that you think i am trying to take from you or those whom you love?

Is it not enough to walk in the way of Christ?

i am.

You search for that which opposes Good.

I search for the words to describe a journey.

Just because you can search for it..doesnt mean you should.

Then i would not be walking in the way of Christ.

Any questions?

Just the ones you offered no answer for.

the answer you search for is death.

perhaps, perhaps this is your answer, perhaps not.

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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

the answer you search for is death.

perhaps, perhaps this is your answer, perhaps not.

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Not my words..Its from the Bible Book.

but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "

But then the Snake Comes Back...

You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

You were seeking to know the opposite of Truth and Good?

You seek the Vipers Brood.

Which Teacher are you? Mending or Striking at the heal!

Peace



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Originally posted by HIFIGUY

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

the answer you search for is death.

perhaps, perhaps this is your answer, perhaps not.

Not my words..Its from the Bible Book.

Yet, you fail to apply the words of the book. Which is what i have done, repeatedly with consistant results.

but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "

But then the Snake Comes Back...

You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman. 5 "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

You seek the Vipers Brood.

Peace

Yet your words already express knowledge of good and evil, and you cast judgement and you accuse. Therefore you must have already eaten the fruit, you are bitten.

if on our journey we confront the viper's brood we seek the serum for your inflictions.

Then perhaps you need not know death, which is the answer to your question.

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Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Not my words..Its from the Bible Book.

exactly the point of this discussion.

Maybe one day they will be your words, too

Originally posted by HIFIGUY

You seek the Vipers Brood.

Which Teacher are you? Mending or Striking at the heal!

The only intentions you are capable of labelling me with are the intentions you know of within yourself, all other intentionality lies outside the boundries of your scope and outside the realm of your expectations.

What variables define a person's intentions?



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Teach Christ Teachings..Not your own.

. But there shall arise after you, men of perverse minds who shall through ignorance or through craft, suppress many things which I have spoken unto you, and lay to me things which I never taught, sowing tares among the good wheat which I have given you to sow in the world.

You say Serum? Christ is the only Serum.

Peace