Will South America become a communist threat?

G'day all,

Just reading through posts and some net sites on various political scenarios and something clicked in my head......with the left leaning attitudes of many Soth American countries, what would be the possibility of them going to the extreme left and becoming communist?

Think about it, all the south american nations join forces and become communist, back by russia, threatening the North Americas......add to that the muslim threat in the world and I'd say the US would be staring down the barrel of a gun with their finger on "THE BIG RED BUTTON".

What do you all think? Could this be a realistic eventuality?

While it is true that South and Central America are becoming less friendly to the Unied States, I'm not sure that that they will constitute a COMMUNIST threat to America.

It's worth noting that these countries are experiencing prolonged periods of very intense growth. This boom has caused their individual standards of living to skyrocket. As they become wealthier, it stands to reason that they will put up with less from their more powerful neighbors.

Now, then. The radicalization of those regions...that's a different matter. Some of those nations are more Socialist than others. None of them are truely Communist in the way that most of us think of that term. Not even Cuba is truely Communist any more. The one common factor among all of these nations would be their growing sense of self-worth, and their dislike of certain U.S. policies.

The situation that we see today has been predicted by many authors like myself for quite some time. America's foriegn policy in this hemisphere has become significantly less benevolent since the current Bush administration took office. Even so, under the leadership of Mr. Clinton, the good old days were slipping away, and the leaders of South and Central America were beginning to assert themselves.

Those of you who follow the North American Union 'conspiracy' with any degree of interest will already know that long-term planners in D.C. are already looking in to possible war scenarios with our friends to the south. The very nature of what constitutes foriegn trade is changing. Globalization and all that. Over the next 20 years, we're going to see some very painful re-alignments. It's not out of line to suggest that South and Central America will not agree with or enjoy this transformation.

We shold've expected this rise in nationalism and militancy. The fact that Mr. Bush is preoccupoied with the Middle East hasn't helped matters. Truth be told, Americans have fumbled the South American ball, and now it's going to get messy. Will there be war? THAT is the real question.

To me "communist" seems more extreme "right" not "leftest."
What with the government controling every aspect of the individuals life.

With all the incidents that have been done to them by the west, it sure wouldnt suprise me of a revolt, not any time soon, and doesnt realy have to involve the communist party.

Why is everything war to you anyway?
What if they wanted to become communits and make south america 1, whats the big deal about this, why do you have to feel threatend about this, where is your freedom thinking now?
does the west have to allow this, they cant do anything without the west saying so?

Impossible.

I live in Brazil and as far as I know we have the largest economy of South America and we would have great impact in an eventual socialist revolution. As far as I can see, I don't think it'd be pratical, just imagine your country turning socialist, it's the same.

And the population don't want it, specially because the major propaganda about socialism back in our early decades, mainly attributed to Russia back in the Cold War, was like this: "Socialism = DOOM". It's impressive, I talked to my grandfathers about this subject and their rejection is big.

Many of us hate Bush and his atitudes, oh yes, but that exists everywhere in every corner and the majority didn't turn socialists.

Don't believe in everything media tells you, just because we are 3rd would countries doesn't mean we're about to destroy / threat everyone that is higher than us.

Thanks for the feedback. I dont know much about South America so your input on my theory has been very helpful.

Here is more information on the plans of the South American countries.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Guerilla
Why is everything war to you anyway?
What if they wanted to become communits and make south america 1, whats the big deal about this, why do you have to feel threatend about this, where is your freedom thinking now? does the west have to allow this, they cant do anything without the west saying so?

I'm hapy to say that everything is not all abou the war with me.

As a pracitcal mater, I do NOT think there were will be any military conflicts with South America in my lifetime. I DO think we are seeing the relationships change. I se ethat as a norma lthing, and I think that American politicians need to be a little more educated in this subject matter before they go flying off the handle...as some are wont to do.

As an essayist, I've had the privilige of corresponding with people form 50 different countries. I still chat online with severl people from Brazil and Argentina. Some of those people are giving me some feedback on the draft for my next book.

Like it or not, I think we've got some tough times ahead as nature of those relations change. As some of you are pointing out, much of what is coming back to us as a bad reaction is deserved. the political scientist in me says that once we get past that...there will be good times.

if chavez gets south america to start pushing the USA out of their affairs, we may start CALLING them a communist threat, but really they'll be a mildly socialist agitation

I do think that it is within the range of possibility that we could see a trade war by the end of this decade, but I am doubt ful that it could ever come to a military confrontation.

i think if all south american countrey became communist this would be a huge treat too america because the alantic ocean is there ocean and losing this make the vital to russia and middle eastern country

South America will never become communist in the definition of the term. As madness said, they most they'll become is mildly socialist (with capitalist support), which is still a far cry from being communist.

Well, now. I'm surprised to see new acticity here. I suppose you could argue that South America is already on its way to being socialized. How far could it go before that movement could threaten U.S. interests?

First: Communism is not like China and Russia would have you believe, go read the communist manifesto, THEN you will know what REAL communism is. I know some communists and they are great people.
Second: It would be great to see south america unite for once, they are torn apart by globalists and corporations, and unity would allow them to fight them. However, if they are unified only by the same globalists and corporations then it will be for a darker purpose. You cant blame them for being ticked off at north america when thats where all these people came from (globalists, corporations).
Third: The muslims are NOT a threat, they never were, they never will be untill you make them made as with anyone on this planet. I cant blame a muslim for being pieved right now after what the US govt. is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, they have all the right in the world to be pieved.
Fourth: We only have one enemy and they are not communist, democratic, olgicary, monarchy, or anything else but this: FACISTS. That one word is what they are: FASCISTS, not muslim, not communist.

Melbourne, remember what hitler did, he turned people on each other when they should have been allies AGAINST him. However becaues they followed along and made up false enemies they wound up in WW2, now they are not after WW3, that will see them dead (NWO people). They just want to keep us divided and right now with people still scared of communism and muslims they are doing better than others have. If you want to talk to some REAL communists: communist party USA (just google or yahoo it) and you can see what a communist is (no its not the fact they are american, its the fact they follow the communist manifesto).
We need to throw asside these foolish names we use to define each other then use them as reason to hate each other. I think you need to realize we are IN NO SHAPE OR FORM fighting the individual or ideals of communism or anything like that. What are we fighting? The ideal of the new world order, they want total control not for good but out of greed and malice. Thus, they must be stopped and I would like to share these words with you:

VINI VIDI VICI!
Julius Caesar
I came, I saw, I conquered.
DIVIDE AND CONQUER!
Julius Caesar (when asked how he conquered Gaul)

Do not them them divide you or else you have lost the battle by fighting your own ALLIES!

I suppose tha the next question should be, "what SHOULD U.S. policy be toward a unified and possibly hostile South America?"

The opposite of economic hitmen...

I'm not sure if everyone here understands that term. Would you elaborate on what you mean?

South America will remain hostile so long as these globalists/corporations keep trying to suck the blood out of them and leave them high and dry. If we were helping South America build up its economy, get the homeless of the streets, get the poor fed and sheltered I believe South America would be FAR more hospitable to us, if not allies to the bitter end should anyone challange us. We have the chance at getting very powerfull allies should we take a chance and go on a little faith. To me this is something thats not humanitarian but just something you do for other people, they need help, when you need help you seek help in the most unusual places and sometimes its in the wrong ones as in the current case. Luckily they realized it and are fighting back, so I say we offer REAL help, no strings attached. Then, and only then will South America be able to unify and stop squabling over resources and no longer have to worry about would be dictators who seek personal glory over the needs of the people.

The scenario that you describe might take a decade or more to implement. It will certainly not happen under the current U.S. administration. Because we are likely to see a Democrat take office, it's possible that we might see the start of such a policy. For the time being, it's not likely that a Republican administration would be open to such tactics.