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Snoopy >> This cannot compare to crashing a plane at 500mph into a solid concrete building and then burning for hours. There isn't going tpo be enough plane left to reconstruct.
John >> Snoopy, I respectfully ask how you damage a war? Thanks.
Snoopy’s Reply >> By giving away information about how a particular intelligence program investigates. Thus giving the people they are investigating a chance to circumvent the intelligence agencies. I think you are trying to use the term "war" in the traditional sense as oppose to the campagne sense. The War on terrorism is not a literal war like the Korean war, it's more of a political effort/movement.
Terral Original >> Please try to place yourself into the shoes of the “Missile” Explanation people for just one minute and tell me what you see in this picture of the Pentagon on 9/11.
Jab’s Reply >> Do you want me to be honest? I see fire and smoke and firemen...OH and a fire truck. That's it.
Terral Original >> Where is all this PLANE debris everyone talks about?
Jab’s Reply >> Inside the building? Destroyed on impact? Is this the only picture I get to look at?
Jab >> I have one 911research.wtc7.net...
Terral Original >> The bottom picture shows a single hole and not the silhouette of a 100 Ton Jetliner 155 feet long, 125 feet wide and almost 50 feet tall.
Terral’s Question >> Where is there any room for 100 Tons of Jetliner above the spools and below the red line of the 1st floor ceiling????
Jab’s Reply >> How far are the spools from the building? Do we know that?
Jab >. I can’t explain it Terral, maybe they are far enough away to have cleared it. I cannot answer that. But just as your discount 100+ witnesses to a plane, I am going to go with the plane cleared the spools. (I will actually keep trying to find an explanation for that.)
Originally posted by Terral
You appear to be getting nearer the truth with each post.
Originally posted by snoopy
Originally posted by ULTIMA1
The factor in reconstruction is not wether its a crime or an accident. it's to determine a cause. In the case of flt800, the cause was unknown so a reconstruction was needed. At it was feasable because there wasn't extensive damage. While hitting water sounds like a lot to you, it means that the fastest it could have hit is at terminal velocity, or about 120mph. plus the fact that it seperated in the air adds in wind resistence from the parts, so probably much much slower.
This cannot compare to crashing a plane at 500mph into a solid concrete building and then burning for hours. There isn't going tpo be enough plane left to reconstruct. For the investigators the case is closed and there is no debate. It's an open and shut case for the experts. Hence the investigation being closed. For the same reason that no credible news media outlet will cover the conspiracies. It's not to take awy from those people, but ther media outlets, including ones that want nothing more than to find an inside job such as the NY Times won't touch it because they would lose all credibility and would be torn to shreds by experts. Some will contend that they are controlled by the government, but there is no way the NY times is. This is just a cop out. These guys have published classified government information that has completely damaged the war on terrorism. If that's being controled by the government, then god help us.
So your saying that if police are at a crime scene and someone says they saw what happned the police do not have to do an investigation ?
You are forgetting that the plane was going faster then terminal velocity because the engines were running.
If the case was closed why haven't we seen a offical report with the details of what happened.
[edit on 19-10-2006 by ULTIMA1]
Originally posted by snoopy
So when the NY times released classified documents about secret government intelligence programs, it was the only thing the gvoernment fed them?
Yesterday, I entertained and then rejected the notion that’s popular among many journalists that the Bush administration has declared war on the press.
A million times yes.
Yet stonewalling, investigating the sources of leaks, intimidating reporters with visits from FBI agents, and otherwise making reporters’ lives miserable aren’t tantamount to a Bush war on the press.
Make no mistake: The Bush Administration and its ideological allies are employing every means available to undermine journalists' ability to exercise their First Amendment function to hold power accountable. In fact, the Administration recognizes no such constitutional role for the press.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by lightninboy
But dozens of humans saw a passenger jet fly into the Pentagon. Not a fighter and/or missile. You need to prove these people are lying before you can claim it was a missile.
Name me a person who saw AA77 hit the Pentagon.
Originally posted by Cassius666
Personally I think its far more likely that the wing "closed for rennovations", was rigged with explosives. Far more reliable than a missile. Would a missile cause a neat punchhole that collapses only after several minutes?