On most days corporate interest and the interest of governments are aligned rather perfectly ( if government is not directly owned by corporate
managers) but i believe that the global warming issue is one of the things they can't seem to agree on ...
Our governments as always aim to control people and since cheap energy makes us ever more independent governments will always seek to control it and
generally restrict it's flow by whatever means possible.
Industry controls us trough convincing us what we need and when we need it and global warming just do not fit into that picture at all so they will do
whatever they can ( whatever the reality may be) to deny that humans activity is a important factor in climate change...
Having established that ( well it's what i have come to believe anyways) one can ask which 'group' invests more money in scientific research and
education as that may obviously play a very large part...
Based on what i have seen i can not understand how we save the environment ( if we are in fact responsible) by pathetic half measures like Kyoto (
will at best MAYBE buy us six years by 2100) and how we will in fact be able to change atmospheric conditions by anything other than deliberate and
specific research to curb or negate certain emissions.
How many of you know that China and India ( and most of the third world) will be able to pollute as much as they like under the Kyoto treaty and that
it will only restrict living standards in the West?
Beside the fact that Exxon and it's ilk is ripping us off daily do any of us imagine that they could do this without the help of policy makers in
government? Why would they fund these groups with such small amounts of money while giving millions to staging uprisings in former Soviet republics?
Why do i have to search so hard to hear anything about massive new glacier formation and declining sea levels in the arctic?
The human inspired, caused, significantly affected global warming myth is just another scarcity paradigm that is tailor made to appeal to
intellectuals that want to save us by telling us we are evil people for living so well and aspiring to do ever better for ourselves our communities
and our countries , WHATEVER the cost.
I really enjoyed your selective use of quoting Sofi; you must think we have done no research of our own.
Lets start with some basic graphs indicating what percentage of the so called global warming gases are in fact being released trough human
activity....
Summing up the case is an article published earlier this year by Wallace Broecker in the prestigious pages of Science entitled "Was the Medieval
Warm Period Global?" His answer is a resounding yes. As Craig and Keith Idso report in a March 7 editorial on their Webpage, Broecker recounts
substantial evidence for a series of climatic warmings spaced at roughly 1,500-year intervals. Broecker explains the science of reconstructing the
histories of surface air temperatures by examining temperature data from "boreholes." From some 6,000 boreholes on all continents, this evidence
confirms that the Earth was significantly warmer a thousand years ago and two degrees Celsius warmer in Greenland. This data, Robinson warns, is less
detailed and authoritative than the evidence from the Sargasso Sea and from the Chinese peat bogs. But together with the independent historical
record, the collective evidence is irrefutable. Thousands of years of data demonstrate that in the face of a few hundred parts per million increase in
CO2, temperatures today, if anything, are colder than usual. Temperatures in Antarctica, for example, have been falling for the last 20 years. The
global satellite record of atmospheric temperature, confirmed by weather balloons, shows little change one way or another for the last three decades.
Terrestrial temperature stations, on average, show more warming over the past century, but many are located in areas that were rural when the stations
were established and are densely urban today, a change which causes local warming. The dominance of natural cycles globally is not surprising since,
as Baliunas and Soon report, the impact of changes in sun energy output are some 70,000 times more significant than all human activity put
together.
In the end, the global warming panic will take its place in the history books next to other environmental chimeras, such as the threat of DDT (but not
of pandemic malaria), the peril of nuclear power (but not of coal mining), the brain-curdling effect of cellphones (but not of far more potent sun
rays), the menace of powerlines (but not of poverty), the poison of alar (though not of rotten apple juice), the danger of asbestos in walls (but not
of fire), the carcinogenic impact of PCBs (but not of carrots, peanut butter, coffee and other items that test more toxic in the same way) and the
horror of radon and other sources of low-level radiation (despite its beneficial effect on health through a process called hormesis).
Overall, the situation is simple. Politicized scientists with government grants and dubious computer temperature models persuaded the world's
politicians to make pompous fools of themselves in Kyoto. Socialist politicians were happy to join an absurd movement to impose government regulations
over the world energy supply and thus over the world economy. The scientific claims and computer models have now blown up in their faces. But rather
than admit error they persist in their fear-mongering. When this happened with DDT, hundreds of millions of people died of malaria. They continue to
die. How many people would die as a result of an energy clamp on global capitalism?
www.oism.org...
Maybe there really is global warming. And maybe the 4.5 per cent of the world's greenhouse gases we humans generate is responsible for it, as
opposed to the 95.5 per cent generated by nature. But, as long as the UN and others substitute hot air for hard science, Bush is right to suspect
it's eco-bunk. Even American politicians who believe in global warming don't believe in Kyoto. Geoffrey Lean might like to note that the day that
will live in infamy is not March 28, 2001 but July 26, 1997 - the date when the US Senate voted against the proposed treaty 95-0. Not one Senator -
not even Ted Kennedy - voted in favour. In Kyoto, Al Gore signed anyway, but that old fraud Clinton never bothered sending it to the Senate for
ratification because he needed 67 votes and he knew he was 67 short. Mr Lean and his chums have had four years to get used to the idea that Kyoto's
dead, not because of one right-wing oil stooge but because of the entire American political establishment. It's doubtful whether even Senator Hillary
Clinton would vote for this. When Bush announced he'd be drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, Hillary said his "charm
offensive" was really a "harm offensive". When Bush decided against Federal regulation of carbon dioxide emissions, Hillary observed that "it
looks like we've gone from CO2 to 'See you later'." When he scrapped proposed federally-mandated reductions on arsenic in the water supply, she
jeered, "It's arsenic and about face". But when Bush scrapped Kyoto, Hill made no puns whatsoever. Even Hillary knows Kyoto's off the graph.
As for John Gummer's protests about the US invading European sovereignty, the whole treaty is an assault on national sovereignty, especially
America's. The US cannot comply with the accords without substantial job losses - 100,000 in Michigan alone, 80,000 in Georgia. Worse, the treaty
would set up an international emissions-trading market, whereby the only way to mitigate against the economic shrinkage would be for the US to buy
"pollution permits" from Russia, India or various developing countries, which would be allowed to sell their "pollution rights" for billions of
dollars which they could then use to reduce their own emissions. The US would wind up paying the Russian mafia or the Congo's nutcake of the month
for the privilege of not closing an auto plant in Flint, Michigan. Do you really think the generals and the KGB are going to let the Kremlin spend an
estimated $40 billion cheque from Uncle Sam on cleaner factories for lead-free Ladas? At best you'd have a greenhouse-gas version of the European
Fisheries Policy, under which the British can't fish in their own waters but any passing Spaniard trailing his pantyhose off the back of the trawler
can. The Kyoto treaty was a deranged proposal to give the world's loopier jurisdictions a veto over America's economy.
The US was supposed to go along with this because it would be a "symbolic gesture". But we've had eight years of symbolic gestures, and Bush feels
it's time to get real, especially on the environment. Messrs Gummer, Lean and the overheated Europeans should chill out. Every significant
environmental improvement - from lead-free gas to recycling - comes from America, and global warming, such as it is, will be solved - like most
problems - by American ingenuity, not Euro-regulation. The era of Clintonian posturing is over, chaps. Wake up and smell the CO2.
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Does the possibility exist that the whole GW thing is so ludicrous that not even the US government ( despite some press agencies best efforts) will
touch it knowing full well that the Americans will never stand for such a open attack on their standards of living? I don't know but considering what
scams they will attempt it's interesting that this one with it's obvious beneficial aspects ( social control ) is not being pushed by the government
but by the media and people on the Internet? Don't believe anything till it has been officially denied? This is certainly one of the more interesting
ATS topics.
Stellar