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Originally posted by alienanderson
If you are looking for reasons as to why the twin towers had to come down, two words spring to my mind - Shock and Awe
The demolition of a great US icon happening live on worldwide TV created a shocked mindset throughout the world, and in particular amongst US citizens
The patriot act and the seemingly 'never ending' war on terror, amongst other things, were easier to implement without as much opposition had the terrible events of 9/11 not occurred as they did
Similar techniques of trauma are used in brainwashing and mind control - if looked at in this light, 9/11 could be seen as a trauma based conditioning technique scaled up massively from an individual to a whole continent. The effects would not have been so deep and far reaching had the towers stood.
By the way, I'm not saying that demolitions were used - I simply am not sure at this point in time. Personally, I am of the 'prior knowledge' view - i.e. elements of US intelligence were perfectly aware of the planned attacks, but certain people in power allowed them to happen
[edit on 22/9/2006 by alienanderson]
Originally posted by behindthescenes
To what purpose would I need to demolition the WTC?
Originally posted by In nothing we trust
To begin the next stage in your plan to invoke the anti-christ and destroy America.
[edit on 22-9-2006 by In nothing we trust]
Originally posted by bsbray11
There were many interests involved in blowing the three WTC skyscrapers. Building 7 went down with much incriminating evidence against major groups like CitiGroup, Enron, etc., that would have otherwise come up in court cases against the giants and potentially exposed some scandals that could very well have crashed the US economy (and dwarved any 9/11 conspiracy), but that's a completely separate subject, tying in with the way banks operate and manipulate money, and I'm not as familiar with that material as I am with 9/11. Virtually everything in Building 7 belonged to either banks or the government (CIA, IRS, etc.), and it also housed an incredibly reinforced bunker built for Giuliani, with a grand view of the rest of WTC Complex.
Larry Silverstein, who took out a lease on the Towers and Building 7 shortly before 9/11 (I suspect with the upcoming events in mind), served to gain from the insurance policies he took out on them (doubly so on the Towers), and the buildings did not have to have asbestos removed (which would cost more than the Towers were worth) or be deconstructed because of structural aging (which would have come up in a decade or so anyway, and would also cost much more than they were worth). Demolition would have been less expensive, but probably also not allowed because of potential damage to so many surrounding structures. It was a major financial problem the owners would eventually have to face.
Psychologically, the blow to kick off a new "Cold War" of sorts for the US military-industrial complex and related groups came with the collapses. The plane impacts caused some profanity and open-mouthed stares, but the collapses are what caused actual shock (post-traumatic stress disorder being reported for millions of Americans after 9/11), and some blood-curdling screams you can pick out in some collapse videos. It was horrific to see them fall as they did, and seemed totally counter-intuitive physically, doubly reinforcing that schema-shattering effect they produced on us all, even if only subconsciously. Those directly involved had severe emotional trauma to work through. The world changed after those collapses, and that was exactly what was needed to kick off the new Orwellian mentality of giving up freedoms to chase these bad guys all over the Mid-East and abroad, country by country. Who could object after what had happened? Bush said we wouldn't stop with Afghanistan, and at the time, most of us were perfectly fine with that, even while understanding that this meant invading whole nations simply because of small cells of individuals using those nations.
Even with the total shock of the collapses, that mentality has not held up so well, and the Iraq War is so unpopular that I dare say any new war (without another 9/11!) will cause significant civil unrest. So, there are some of my thoughts.
Originally posted by tazadar
The Manhattan Project involved thousands of people and the secret was kept well hidden from the public. So, it's not an impossibility.
With 9/11, the full details of the conspiracy can be known just by a handful of people. It's all compartmentized. For example, the head of NORAD is given a memo (an order) to schedule exercises on 9/11/2001. He isn't given any more information than that. You might be a Lt. in charge of equiping and maintaining jet planes. You might receive an order to equip a 757 with remote-controlled capabilities. As a FEMA director, you receive an order for a terror drill for NYC on 9/10/2001. You aren't given any more information than that.
I know for a fact WTC7 cannot come down like a controlled-demolition from fire when other buildings (ex. the Millennium Hitlon) are much closer to the debris field didn't fall or buildings next to WTC7 are perfectly fine. It's defies common sense.
If the towers were to collapse by fire, you would not see concrete get pulverized into powder. There just isn't enough force (gravity) to turn concrete into dust absents of explosive forces. The huge dust cloud we see spread for blocks and blocks are whate remains of concrete. In addition, these third buildings came down at free fall speeds. As if the pancake theory were a fact, then there would be resistance on each subsequent floors and the buildings would came down much slower than they did.
Why the buildings have to come down? Watch the 9/11 Mysteries film, it has more information. Basically, the buildings were a money-pit for the owner. WTC7 housed government agencies and classified materials, such as the SEC investigation into corporate frauds, such as Enron.
Certainly not the supposedly terrorists. They could have killed well over 20,000+ people if they crashed the planes between 10-noon when occupancy is higher. After the planes crashed into the building, security is down, have operatives walk in and bombed stairways at the 10th floor, trapping people from getting out.
The war in Iraq and war on terror is over a $1 trillion. We are stay in Iraq 10, 15, who knows how many more years. Where do the government get the money? They get a check from the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve issues the money out of thin air. The average American working taxpayers and future generations are paying for the it. The taxes goes to pay the debt (principal + compounding interest). The money goes to the megabanks.
The military-industrial complex benefits. Big Oil benefits. Multi-national corporations like Halliburton, DynCorp benefit.