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Originally posted by tooblue
If evidence were found and became the consensus of engineering organizations that stated they have indisputable evidence of explosive materials from the sites. That would be good enough for me to accept the buildings were blown up. Then we would need evidence the US government caused it to happen.
Originally posted by Samblack
Flight 93 wasnt shot down,people were getting cell phone calls to just about the last minute.
Originally posted by doctorfungi
Thing you have to realise here guys is that the CT theory has already been debunked, disproven and shamed MANY times. It's just funny because it's a vicious cycle. As soon as one theory is misproven you guys move onto another one just to keep the ball rolling and you choose to ignore any evidence that would indicate otherwise. Have you noticed how different the theory is today than it was a year or two ago?
This has been proven when watching "Screw Loose Change: Not Freakin' Again Edition". Sure, there are still some valid points brought up by CT'ers that Screw Loose Change cannot account for... but just by showing that the Loose Change kids have lied and manipulated their evidence discredits the whole film.
Another thing CT'ers can't get their head around is pure logic.
Sure the WTC's were the only towers to collapse by fire, but they are also the only towers to have 767 jets rammed into them at high speed. You can't just ignore that.
Same with the pentagon... why risk exposing yourself by flying a freaking missile into the building when you could do the same thing you did with the twin towers?
The only thing that would convince me that the WTC's were destroyed would be footage released showing people planting explosives in the buildings. All the other evidence you have is shaky at best, 4 years after the theories started you've still got nothing 100% solid.
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As for Flight 93, I do believe it was shot down. But I don't think this is part of a grand conspiracy. I think NORAD decided that they had no other option and shot the plane out of the sky after gaining presidential order. Can you really blame them? And can you really blame them for covering it up? The nation was going through one of the toughest times ever and so were the families on Flight 93
Originally posted by bsbray11
... The last reported call from the plane was a 911 call, of which the operator said that the caller reported sitting in the bathroom and seeing white smoke coming from the plane. ...
Originally posted by CAPT PROTON
Maybe the focus should be put onto the highjacker's themselves.
You can argue footage and physics all day long to no avail, but what of the
highjackers?
Someone needs to dig deep, real deep into their backgrounds.
Were they agents? Or were they just a bunch of fools talked into doing
something dirty so someone else would not get their hands dirty?
And who would this someone else be? That is your kicker. That would tell you
which side of the fence these guys were on, and then you would know if it was a conspiracy or not.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
I'm just wondering...how could it be that they were in a bathroom and could see smoke? I have never seen a window in any airplane bathroom - but I suppose stranger things have happened.
Minutes before the 10 a.m. crash, an emergency dispatcher in Pennsylvania received a cell phone call from a man who said he was a passenger locked in a bathroom aboard Flight 93. The man repeatedly said the call was not a hoax, said dispatch supervisor Glenn Cramer in neighboring Westmoreland County.
''We are being hijacked, we are being hijacked!'' Cramer quoted the man from a transcript of the call.
The man told dispatchers the plane ''was going down. He heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane, and we lost contact with him,'' Cramer said.
Originally posted by 2PacSade
I have a question for you all. . .
Just What Would It Take For You To Believe The Opposite Story???
What if one day you woke up & one by one all the things you truely believed concerning the events of 911 were proven to be just the opposite?
Just what would it take for you to HONESTLY change your mind, and come to the unbelievable conclusion thay you have been wrong the whole time?
For example, in the days following the crash, the Associated Press interviewed Glen Cramer, a Westmoreland County emergency services supervisor, who told AP and other news agencies that he had read "off a transcript" that minutes before the crash a passenger, David Felt, had called and told the dispatcher that he had he had heard an explosion and that there was white smoke in the plane. But in a phone interview, Felt's younger brother Gordon, who was played the 911 tape by the FBI when he went to hear the cockpit recordings in a special event for the victims' families, said, "There was no mention of white smoke or an explosion." Also, the dispatcher who took the call, John Shaw, confirmed that Felt had mentioned neither bomb nor white smoke. "It never happened," he stated
Originally posted by 2PacSade
My first criteria for HONESTLY changing my mind would be to switch from thinking that WTC 7 was nothing other than a CD.
Originally posted by doctorfungi
Another thing CT'ers can't get their head around is pure logic.
As for Flight 93, I do believe it was shot down. But I don't think this is part of a grand conspiracy. I think NORAD decided that they had no other option and shot the plane out of the sky after gaining presidential order. Can you really blame them? And can you really blame them for covering it up? The nation was going through one of the toughest times ever and so were the families on Flight 93