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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
.....it shows the insanity and stupidity of mankind in its fight for survival.
I still cringe when I think about the american who debated taking a GUN To church is AOK simply because the law allows me to do it.
I beleive in self defense, and a countries right to arm itself.
But when regular citizens are allowed to buy an AK47 for there HOUSE, it borders on the verge of insanity.
If you want to defend yourself? Learn a martial art, do some weights and avoid troublesome area's where there's greater chance you'll be mugged.
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
We are humans before we are citizens,
and owning a machine that can murder and maime INNOCENT people in truley tragic and unforseen circumstances is a haneous crime against humanity.
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Wow, 30years ago gun laws werent effective.
thats a great reason to abandon the idea.
And your right its humans that pull the trigger.. but imagine not having a trigger to pull in the begining?
And If someone broke into my house, and I had a gun. Of course I would retrieve it then go out to investigate.
So now this robber who cared nothing more than stealing a radio for cash, is faced with someone pointing a gun at him, and the natural reaciton would be to defend himsefl using his gun.
There's alot more chance of BULLETS flying when the house hold owner emerges toward the robber with a pistol.
Maybe we will have to agree to disagree, because I really dont care to become personal and start abusing people on something that is so trivial intodays world.
I just find it sickening, that guns can do so much damage, that force has caused so much misery world wide yet people still firmly beleive that owning a gun makes them safer.
If you want to play with guns, go join the army.
Dont bring them into a society where one day I might be walking around..
because there's no need for a firearm, when your walking your dog, walking to the stand to buy a paper, having a coffee or going to church.
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
We are humans before we are citizens,
and owning a machine that can murder and maime INNOCENT people in truley tragic and unforseen circumstances is a haneous crime against humanity.
Originally posted by kozmo
No, you cannot arm everyone. Why? Because "everyone" is too ignorant, selfish, tempermental or just plain stupid to be permitted to carry a firearm. That is why we have a licensing process - to weed those people out. You must successfully complete a course then you must pass a security check THEN, and only then, will someone be permitted to carry a gun.
I am a certified firearms instructor in the state of Ohio and I can tell you that about half of the people that come in for the CCW course are NOT fit to carry a concealed weapon. It is part of my job to weed these people out and prevent them from obtaining their permit. They are, however, permitted to own a firearm just so long as they a.) keep it at home or b.) transport said weapon in accordance with state and local laws. This prevents accidents and is effective.
Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Granted.
We shall agree to disagree!
...... but for the record im right and your wrong!
Originally posted by magicmushroom
Quite so Shar it only took one event in the UK to remove the right of law abiding gun owners all of whom had licences for their guns to be made a crimminal offence overnight. So you may will be right that the right to bear arms will be denuded a little at a time so no one will really notice, well I hope you and your fellow Americans will resist such errosions of your freedom and liberty.
Originally posted by Strangerous
Originally posted by magicmushroom
Quite so Shar it only took one event in the UK to remove the right of law abiding gun owners all of whom had licences for their guns to be made a crimminal offence overnight. So you may will be right that the right to bear arms will be denuded a little at a time so no one will really notice, well I hope you and your fellow Americans will resist such errosions of your freedom and liberty.
Hardly!
If you're referring to the hand gun ban shooters had a choice - surrender them or move them overseas. Many pistol shooters now have their guns overseas & visit them regularly. I didn't and don't agree with the ban but you're incorrect to suggest the ban was 'overnight'.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
How would you the gun bearing citizens take this, would you give up your arms if told to do so or if you were labeled as a terrorist if you did not.
Alaska Statute: HB 102, signed by the Governor on June 11, 2003 changes Alaska Statute 11.61.220 to allow anyone 21 or older, who may legally carry a firearm to also carry it concealed without having to obtain a special permit. The possession of a firearm at courthouses, school yards, bars and domestic violence shelters will continue to be prohibited. Alaskans may still obtain a concealed carry permit if they want reciprocity with other states or want to continue to be exempt from background checks when purchasing firearms.