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Topic started on 21-9-2006 @ 07:19 AM by dgtempe
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www.rense.com...
Kennedy spoke against any religious leader, including the Pope, from influencing his actions as President. Researchers claim this was one reason he
was killed, as the Vatican-led New World Order knew he had uncovered their evil plans.
On Sept. 12, 1960, President John F. Kennedy spoke to The Greater Houston Ministerial Assoc., saying emphatically that no religious leader, including
the Pope, had the right to control his actions and influence the foreign and domestic policies in any way, shape or form.
For his strong words and his speech denouncing secret societies and religious infiltration, some researchers of the JFK assassination claim this
speech "set him up for murder by the Vatican/New World Order controllers through the Jesuit Order."
Has this ever been posted here? If not, what do you think? Did JFK get on the wrong side of the Vatican?
Comments would be appreciated.
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reply posted on 21-9-2006 @ 07:53 PM by Excitable_Boy
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On Sept. 12, 1960, President John F. Kennedy spoke to The Greater Houston Ministerial Assoc., saying emphatically that no religious leader, including
the Pope, had the right to control his actions and influence the foreign and domestic policies in any way, shape or form.

He said this because, if he were to be the first Catholic president, many were concerned that he would have trouble with the "separation of church
and state" thing. He wanted to make it clear to voters that they had nothing to be concerned about. The Catholic Chruch wasn't going to have
anything to do with his politics.
Note: sometimes Rense needs to be taken with a grain of salt
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reply posted on 23-9-2006 @ 04:09 PM by sb33rd
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Never mind I found the audio:
www.infowars.com...
deeper in the audio you will find what in mention has to do with secret societies. The start is a long intro.
high lights:
 The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret
societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts
far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating
its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And
there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits
of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration,
whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to
cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know. 
It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader,
and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for
expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on
guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly
knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is
questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or
wish to match.

source:
millercenter.virginia.edu...
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reply posted on 9-10-2006 @ 10:33 PM by fookerboy69
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Wow, i cant believe no one has commented on this again. That speech right there solidifies my belief that JFK knew about the NWO's plans long before
they were set to take place. Everything said seems to point to a secret society wanting to take control of the world using covert tactics. Great
find, i just hope the rest of ATS looks into this one.
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reply posted on 10-10-2006 @ 03:03 AM by TheDoctor
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That is fantastic. Imagine Dolt Double-U Bushwhackers vibrating such eloquence.
I really wonder about JFK. He was the epicenter of a major occult global-political operation, and while he wasn't clean and he wasn't King Arthur,
unless King Arthur helped throw the Round Table into Vietnam and drinked and drugged while blood was shed, he was a very unique figure, very much in
parallel to Lincoln in practical and bizarre ways.
He did something to be offed. It's a question of how much the Kennedy family actively tried to undermine the Vatican/Nazi/ South Pole Polar
Bear/Gray Alien agenda. The fact that JFK Jr got offed as well proves that Irish Catholics in power will not stand for globalist mind-control.
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reply posted on 10-10-2006 @ 08:18 AM by zman
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Lincon too was taken out by them.
home.att.net...
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reply posted on 10-10-2006 @ 10:22 AM by Cug
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Originally posted by fookerboy69
Wow, i cant believe no one has commented on this again. That speech right there solidifies my belief that JFK knew about the NWO's plans long before
they were set to take place. Everything said seems to point to a secret society wanting to take control of the world using covert tactics. Great
find, i just hope the rest of ATS looks into this one. 
OK this is Skunkworks so I'm going to try and not get to snarky.
This speech happened 6 days after the Bay of Pigs, what the President is doing is asking the press to censor themselves* on issues of national
security and treat the Cold War like a "real" war. However this "censorship" should in no way be equated to the type of censorship that the
U.S.S.R. used at the time and that he welcomes public scrutiny of his administration. (On things like the Bay of Pigs fiasco)
JFK was not talking about "secret societies" Like the Masons, the Illuminati, etc.. In fact JFK himself was a member of a "secret society"
The Knights of Columbus.
*As it turned out the U.S.S.R. got word of the Bay of Pigs invasion via the Press and warned Cuba.
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reply posted on 10-10-2006 @ 12:58 PM by FallenFromTheTree
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JFK was taken out for trying to stop the military industrial empire's plans for Vietnam.
Plain and simple, pulling our troops out of Vietnam would have undermined billions of dollars
of contracts already in the works.
Prescott Bush was just one of those interested parties.
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reply posted on 26-10-2006 @ 08:15 AM by soundaddicted
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Damn., Bump on this one.
There is very grave danger that the announced need for increased security will be seized by those who intend to expand it's meaning to the full
extent of censorship and concealment.
And also how the danger of misplaced power (expanded government power) supercedes the reasons cited to justify it.
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reply posted on 26-10-2006 @ 08:42 AM by Rockpuck
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Originally posted by TheDoctor
That is fantastic. Imagine Dolt Double-U Bushwhackers vibrating such eloquence.
I really wonder about JFK. He was the epicenter of a major occult global-political operation, and while he wasn't clean and he wasn't King Arthur,
unless King Arthur helped throw the Round Table into Vietnam and drinked and drugged while blood was shed, he was a very unique figure, very much in
parallel to Lincoln in practical and bizarre ways.
He did something to be offed. It's a question of how much the Kennedy family actively tried to undermine the Vatican/Nazi/ South Pole Polar
Bear/Gray Alien agenda. The fact that JFK Jr got offed as well proves that Irish Catholics in power will not stand for globalist mind-control.

Hmm, Antartica means "no bear" while the arctic north pole means "bears" ... soo .. the south pole does not have polar bears, thats my point.
That is why one is called ant as in anti or none, in regards to bears.. just something they noticed whent hey discovered both lands.
My daily trivial knowledge for the day. Carry on.
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