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Lunar Strip Mine in John Lear's Moon Photos??

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posted on Sep, 22 2006 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Zorgon, a lot of the shadows you see in these images are depressions in the ground. The 'cross' is likely two long trenches carved by meteors impacting at a low angle, some of the other odd shadows are likely multiple impact craters joined together. The photo's were taken with a low sun angle, so any deep depression will appear dark inside.



LOL yes some are just "shadows" others well I'll get to that later...


Here is the main thing... the matter of scale...

I have found three "levels" of objects...

Ones that "look" like something and are actually very big agaist the scale of the pictures

Ones that are strange shadow of objects that are hard to see but are really there

and finally the true "enigma's" that are there... The problem is that again due to scale it is hard to convince someone they are there. I am going to gather them up this weekend... I just wish I could enhance them a little better without altering them...

Also some of the odd ones posted detract from the real ones


"Peekaboo" is real... so is the one that John says looks like a "cockpit" Once you know where the two are you can spot them easily... and both of them are in the top view and the front view




posted on Sep, 23 2006 @ 10:46 AM
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one feature of the pic in question is the ledges are not level.

if you had gigantic pieces of equipment outfitted for work on the moon, you can bet your multi trillion dollar project that they would make sure they are dredging on a level basis so they don't tip over





lets look at strip mining

strip mining

Strip mining is only practical when the ore body to be excavated is relatively near the surface. Since colossal quantities of material often need to be removed, the excavating machinery used in strip mining is often among the largest such equipment ever constructed; drag line excavators and bucket-wheel excavators are common examples.

excavater

The larger types are used in strip-mining operations to extract coal and these are amongst the largest mobile equipment (not water-borne), and weigh in the vicinity of 2000 metric tonnes, though specimens weighing up to 13,000 metric tonnes have also been constructed.

bucket wheel excavator

These tremendous machines can cost over $100 million, take 5 years to assemble, require 5 people to operate, weigh more than 13,000 tons, and have a theoretical capacity of more than 12,000m³/h. Specifically, the RB293 bucket wheel excavator manufactured by MAN Takraf is recognised by Guinness World Records as the largest land vehicle.[1] Google Maps view of such an excavator [2]


if you can see these pieces of equipment on google earth, how can they possibly have been constructed, sent to the moon in complete secrecy ?




posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
one feature of the pic in question is the ledges are not level.

if you had gigantic pieces of equipment outfitted for work on the moon, you can bet your multi trillion dollar project that they would make sure they are dredging on a level basis so they don't tip over



THe ledges look fairly level to me. Do you mean the ramps leading between the levels? They manage to move heavy mining equipment up and down the ramps on earth and we have six times the gravity to worry about, so I would think you'd have more leeway with inclines on the moon.



if you can see these pieces of equipment on google earth, how can they possibly have been constructed, sent to the moon in complete secrecy ?



I don't think anyone from earth built this mine, there are some objects in this photo that most people have missed still and the scale would make it impossible to launch into space from here.



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 06:55 PM
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Anomalies from Copernicus1.full.gif










[edit on 24-9-2006 by undo]



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
I don't think anyone from earth built this mine, there are some objects in this photo that most people have missed still and the scale would make it impossible to launch into space from here.


Well don't hold out on us LOL

I have put all the finds so far here..

landoflegends.us...

I have a few others that I have discussed with John that I am waiting on...

hey I don't want to steal all the thunder


So come on gimme what you got... I am sure there are some I missed



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by undo
Anomalies from Copernicus1.full.gif


Yup that was the one I was looking at when you were on the phone



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 08:03 PM
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Isn't it odd? What is it? Especially the smaller one with that glowing edge around it.



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 10:07 PM
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if there was zero gravity, you have a point. 1/6 of earths gravity still requires you to have a level operation


They are not level. If they are not level, they are not strip mine operations.

if you are going to say aliens did it, then you need extraordinary evidence. Do you have extraordinary evidence ?

wouldn't the aliens be able to make the mine level ? they can travel space/dimension/time, whatever, but they can't make level roads ?

it just doesn't add up


its just another example of the human mind taking abstract shapes and assigning meaning where there is none.



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
wouldn't the aliens be able to make the mine level ? they can travel space/dimension/time, whatever, but they can't make level roads ?


If you have anti gravity, why would you have roads at all?

I have stated previously that I can't make the leap that if aliens were mining there, their mining operation would be recognisable by us, let alone look exactly like one of our own strip mines.

IF it is a mine, it must be HUMAN.



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Prote



IF it is a mine, it must be HUMAN.




Yes its a mine....so......yes.



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by Prote



IF it is a mine, it must be HUMAN.




Yes its a mine....so......yes.




Holeeeee Sh....

John, do you know what it is they are mining? and why?


[edit on 24/9/06 by Prote]



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by Prote




John, do you know what it is they are mining? and why?


No and no. As I mentioned before I talked with a gentlemen who helped build one the of pieces of machinery. He told me, "John, it was so huge, at the end of the project I rented an airplane to fly over it just to get an idea of how big it was."



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 11:01 PM
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He rented an airplane, wow! Isn;t the biggest building currently the Boeing plant? I wonder how the two compare.

Sorry to keep on but what about how they got such a thing to the moon. Presumably, shuttles are for the public only. How else are they getting there? launched from where? etc etc

Perhaps another thread, I'll do some digging but any info or ideas?



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Prote

Holeeeee Sh....
John, do you know what it is they are mining? and why?


I have one NASA report that shows a very unusual amount of zinc in one crater, abnormally so apparently. We know from spectrograph images that there is a LOT of titanium up there...

Then there is the much talked about Helium 3...

But I have a hunch its something like Naquada... [or Element 155.. or the "Swedish" stone that TH Moray had... doesn't matter what you call it its the same stuff]. After all they need to power the Stargate they found in Iraq


I posted this one in the other thread, but I will put it here too... for all the doubters... explain to me THIS right angled structure as an "illusion" or "trick of shadows" And look at the shadows made by the other objects beside it..





posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 11:20 PM
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Not to take the thread off topic, but when hubby and I were stationed in Utah, he said a plane came in he had never seen before. It flew over the base, very slowly. He said the thing was mammoth, a gigantic plane or what he thought was a plane -- it flew, anyway. He said it was black, silent, but not recognizable as any stealth craft he was aware of. He also said it was triangular in shape with lights in a very odd formation. What struck me about his explanation was he kept reiterating how large it was. He knows the size of these things and this one was abnormally large. Think of the largest plane or jet you know of and it's probably alot bigger than that.



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by undo




Not to take the thread off topic, but when hubby and I were stationed in Utah, he said a plane came in he had never seen before. It flew over the base, very slowly. He said the thing was mammoth, a gigantic plane or what he thought was a plane -- it flew, anyway. He said it was black, silent, but not recognizable as any stealth craft he was aware of. He also said it was triangular in shape with lights in a very odd formation. What struck me about his explanation was he kept reiterating how large it was. He knows the size of these things and this one was abnormally large. Think of the largest plane or jet you know of and it's probably alot bigger than that.



Yes, I have a drawing from a friend in Scotland who observed a vehicle at least 10 times largr than a 747. He said it went from directly overhead to the horizon in 7 seconds.He said the aircraft was defintely mad made and not some kind of alien craft. I talked to him on the phone and he was very knowledgeable about aircraft and aircraft identification. He works as a lineman and saw the object just at sunset from high up a tower he was working on. This was about 3 years ago.



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 11:37 PM
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So we shipped this stuff to the moon with man made ufo's made from recovered craft, roswell et al and they've been busying themselves on the moon and around the SS for the last few decades! Thats really sneaky.

[edit on 24/9/06 by Prote]



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by Prote



So we shipped this stuff to the moon with man made ufo's made from recovered craft, roswell et al and they've been busying themselves on the moon and around the SS for the last few decades! Thats really sneaky.



About 44 years. So that would be about 4 decades and a half.



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 11:46 PM
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Ok...


Why all the secrecy then? I don't understand. It would be more cost effective to have the entire population behind the project, that way, you can utilise the entire nations industry.

Why are they mining the moon in secret, using secret, giant machines flown there in giant, secret triangular...secret things...

Do they get off on it? I mean, all the secrecy...there's so much of it, it's almost pornographic....

I'd like to believe and I do see what you point out in the images. What i have a problem with is..... Why?



posted on Sep, 24 2006 @ 11:47 PM
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So following on from that, presumably, they haven't disclosed this type of thing because of the technology. They would have to then admit to aliens and everything otherwise how do they suddenly explain how they got to the moon to mine it and whatever else they have been up to without a technology transplant.

They have to wait until we are suitably technologically advanced before they can explain away their endeavours with currently available technology so the tech jump won't be connected to anything otherworldy. Only then can they even THINK about disclosure, they have to get themselves out of the tech jump hole first.


[edit on 24/9/06 by Prote]



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