Lunar Strip Mine in John Lear's Moon Photos??

Originally posted by Essedarius
I posted this on the "Moon Pictures" thread, but it's clearly more applicable here:

LOL well I am only answering on the other thread, so you will have to read it there... no time for too many threads

Originally posted by stumason
Ok...
Why all the secrecy then? I don't understand. It would be more cost effective to have the entire population behind the project, that way, you can utilise the entire nations industry.

Knowledge is power and why share it when that means you lose your control/power over others? It's one thing not to want to assume inhuman powers for the elect few that manage to rule us but why assume they will act differently than the rest of us with their vastly superior resources? If two poor people can conspire to break into a store to steal some cash what on Earth can the rich and powerful not manage with legions of lawyers and whole tomes filled with laws designed to protect them and their interest? It's just dull witted to assume that they run into all that power and control by shear luck and that their not actively doing their damn est to gain more or keep what they have.

Why are they mining the moon in secret, using secret, giant machines flown there in giant, secret triangular...secret things...

Because the faction doing it will have every interest hiding it from the rest and the other factions , not wanting to seem like they are stupid and completely at the mercy of that faction, will obvious protect their interest by keeping it as secret as they can. The infrastructure of big pharma is all over the place and yet we are getting ever sicker and weaker despite their so called best efforts. If you can affect so many people's basic health and do it broad daylight imagine what you can do behind the cloak of secrecy that obscurity and threat of violent death can bring your operation. I'm sorry but your arrogance ( " There is just no way they could have fooled me like this", and i'm not counting myself out here; it's how our subconscious minds work ) is your biggest problem and it's the reason i am starting to think humanity deserves much of what it gets. If we were less corrupt and arrogant we would have exposed and destroyed these criminal institutions a long time ago but it's evident from their thousand year reign ( at least) that we are suckers for punishment and self deception.

Do they get off on it? I mean, all the secrecy...there's so much of it, it's almost pornographic....

I sure as hell get a kick out of knowing what i know and so frequently using it to my own advantage in life and business..... I can't begin to satisfaction that must come from knowing you are to a large extent dictating what happens in the world... One does not have to agree with what they are doing to consider what one would do with such power and means....

I'd like to believe and I do see what you point out in the images. What i have a problem with is..... Why?

Wanting to believe a specific thing is a very bad idea imo and the best defense you have against lies and deceit is to make your investigation of 'reality' as dispassionate as you can. If you have a vested interest in believing one thing over another that might encourage learning and research but it will very likely taint what you learn by dictating what you do not give due consideration. Bias in research and belief is always going to be with you and the only defense is never ever even bothering to consider the possibility that what you believe can not be refined or be completely or partly inaccurate.

If you can not deal with such insecurity adopt whatever religion suits you best and live a happy relatively peaceful life serving the first powerful interest you can find; they will surely reward your complicity and they will only get rid of you if they no longer benefit from your involvement.

Sermon over ( on occasion i just can not help myself).

Stellar

StellarX,

Well said. I think, however, the control grid is alot older. In fact, if my research is correct, it seems to begin around 5000 BC-ish, is reorganized around 2600 BC, and has been with us ever since.

Originally posted by undo
StellarX,

Well said. I think, however, the control grid is alot older. In fact, if my research is correct, it seems to begin around 5000 BC-ish, is reorganized around 2600 BC, and has been with us ever since.

Ditto StellarX Seems you have the political angle down pat while we are "digging up" the hardware Can I quote you on my pages as to the why who and how?

Undo:

We are kinda going with the theory old mine having been re opened recently by "us"



Some of the structurs i am finding don't look "made on earth, while others look so familiar its uncanny...

Here is a tank that you can see a support leg... half of it is in the shadows

That scale is remarkable the strip mine must be gargantuan because that is probably a few miles deep....those ramparts alone are probably a few thousand feet.

Larger than any mining operation that is "practical" where benches are usually 35 feet.

In reply to shamanators post I downloaded the picture to take a closer look. Something caught my eye down in the bottom left corner. So I put in a couple arrows of some strange anomalies. That whole area there looks like a camp of some sort. You can see worn paths, or roads. I pointed to what looks like a cylinder tank or barrel. The barrel is casting a shadow there. I'm not sure what the other black dots are. The other arrow is pointing to what looks like a crane, tower, or lift of some sort there. The X shape there in the front below the X itself is casting a shadow as well. So it is free standing whatever it is.

sean

water spots or film emulsion spots on the negative, i do believe.

errr, no, those anomalies are in the area where the water spots are, but are not water spots.

[edit on 7-2-2007 by undo]

I realize my eye isnt as "trained" as some people on here that are able to spot some of the anomalies but no matter how hard i try, aside from a few odd things all i can see are rocks and craters in these moon pics.
Not to say that some of whats being claimed isnt really there because number 1 i have a VERY open mind and number 2 and most importantly I absolutely believe that aliens exist.
I also absolutely believe that there are bases on the moon, alien and or human but i believe theyre mostly on the far side of the moon.
I really do enjoy looking at these moon pics here and mars pics as well.
Also, if anyone is wondering why im posting several posts in such a short time, its because I usually do my posting late (3 am right now) so Im catching up on everything that was posted here during the day
not tryin to be a post or point wh0re lol

[edit on 8-2-2007 by Kr0n0s]

Originally posted by undo
StellarX,

Well said. I think, however, the control grid is alot older. In fact, if my research is correct, it seems to begin around 5000 BC-ish, is reorganized around 2600 BC, and has been with us ever since.

And while i might disagree over specifics i don't have any argument with those who say this conspiracy has been going for millennia...

Originally posted by zorgon

Ditto StellarX Seems you have the political angle down pat while we are "digging up" the hardware

Can I quote you on my pages as to the why who and how?

I would like to think i am doing more than just providing the political angle ( i do think it's important as without understand motives one is going to be even more confused by the volume of contradictory information) but if that's all you want to use at the moment just let me know where you are so that i may critique myself or defend my opinions or expound on the whys and how's of what i believe.

Undo: We are kinda going with the theory old mine having been re opened recently by "us"
Some of the structurs i am finding don't look "made on earth, while others look so familiar its uncanny...

I once read this story by Philip K. Dick ( one has not read sci-fi if you have not imo ) where the first human exploration teams on Mars finds overwhelming and wide scale scenes of civilization and it's destruction with the launching pads and remaining rockets pointing at Earth......

Lets just say i am not surprised that we are finding faces on Mars and signs of wide scale civilization and destruction; we , IMO, probably are the Martians and the so called leaders of the world would rather not have us figuring this out any time soon.

Stellar

Originally posted by mikesingh
I do not think its a mining op of any kind. A mine needs to have trackways along the sides for mechanical devices to go into the dug-outs to scoop out soil.

I don't see any indications of such tracks. Or how is the soil being scooped out from the bottom? This is just a meteor which has smashed to dust on the surface.

Perhaps we might want to consider that statement rephrased just a hair...

"A mine, BY OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A MINE IS, needs to have..."

Would that not be more appropriate... for now?

SPout

Originally posted by Southpaw11

Originally posted by mikesingh
I do not think its a mining op of any kind. A mine needs to have trackways along the sides for mechanical devices to go into the dug-outs to scoop out soil.

I don't see any indications of such tracks. Or how is the soil being scooped out from the bottom? This is just a meteor which has smashed to dust on the surface.

Perhaps we might want to consider that statement rephrased just a hair...
"A mine, BY OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A MINE IS, needs to have..."
Would that not be more appropriate... for now?
SPout

Thanks Southpaw11, I'll go along with that. "Trackways along the sides for mechanical devices to go into the dugouts to scoop out soil." I wonder what planet they do that on? They sure don't do that in Nevada. And scoop out soil? Who wants soil? Miners want ore! And 'scoop out' ore? I don't think so. I don't think mikesingh did much mining. At least here on earth.

Originally posted by Kr0n0s
I realize my eye isnt as "trained" as some people on here that are able to spot some of the anomalies but no matter how hard i try, aside from a few odd things all i can see are rocks and craters in these moon pics.
Not to say that some of whats being claimed isnt really there because number 1 i have a VERY open mind and number 2 and most importantly I absolutely believe that aliens exist.
I also absolutely believe that there are bases on the moon, alien and or human but i believe theyre mostly on the far side of the moon.
I really do enjoy looking at these moon pics here and mars pics as well.
Also, if anyone is wondering why im posting several posts in such a short time, its because I usually do my posting late (3 am right now) so Im catching up on everything that was posted here during the day

not tryin to be a post or point wh0re lol

[edit on 8-2-2007 by Kr0n0s]

KRONOS
Right click on the image.
Save picture as
Save it
Open MS Excel
Insert the image
Stretch it as far as you can
zoon to 200% or whatever you want

look around. SLOWLY. take note of GEOMETRY not GEOGRAPHY.

Good luck.

Originally posted by sean
In reply to shamanators post I downloaded the picture to take a closer look. Something caught my eye down in the bottom left corner. So I put in a couple arrows of some strange anomalies. That whole area there looks like a camp of some sort. You can see worn paths, or roads. I pointed to what looks like a cylinder tank or barrel. The barrel is casting a shadow there. I'm not sure what the other black dots are. The other arrow is pointing to what looks like a crane, tower, or lift of some sort there. The X shape there in the front below the X itself is casting a shadow as well. So it is free standing whatever it is.

If you take this image and zoom. and zoom. and zoom.

There is structure EVERYWHERE. This is like other imagery I've seen. There are SPHERES everywhere. Larger structures. Some spheres at altitude with shadows underneath them...

I've gotta take the time and learn how to get an image in here...

My operation for this is basically whatever I've got available on the laptop at hand... on this one... it's MS excel and MS paint. copy from excel and save from paint.

now...

how do I get it in here... LOL I stink at the dreaded "tech". yikes.

SPout

Originally posted by Southpaw11

Originally posted by sean
In reply to shamanators post I downloaded the picture to take a closer look. Something caught my eye down in the bottom left corner. So I put in a couple arrows of some strange anomalies. That whole area there looks like a camp of some sort. You can see worn paths, or roads. I pointed to what looks like a cylinder tank or barrel. The barrel is casting a shadow there. I'm not sure what the other black dots are. The other arrow is pointing to what looks like a crane, tower, or lift of some sort there. The X shape there in the front below the X itself is casting a shadow as well. So it is free standing whatever it is.

If you take this image and zoom. and zoom. and zoom.

There is structure EVERYWHERE. This is like other imagery I've seen. There are SPHERES everywhere. Larger structures. Some spheres at altitude with shadows underneath them...

I've gotta take the time and learn how to get an image in here...

My operation for this is basically whatever I've got available on the laptop at hand... on this one... it's MS excel and MS paint. copy from excel and save from paint.

now...

how do I get it in here... LOL I stink at the dreaded "tech". yikes.

SPout

Southpaw, this is one of the greatest photos I have ever seen of the Moon. If you look to the right approx 2 inches S.E. on screen of the smaller circle you have drawn you will see a large face. Look for 2 large darkened eyes for starters. There are literally hundreds of anomolies in this photo. Rik Riley

[edit on 13-2-2007 by rikriley]

I have seen, on Coast to Coast AM, the picture clearly showing the operation, and the retouch of the same crater. Completly different!! In the touch up, the crater is smooth and perfect. Even the area on the outside looks perfectly smooth. To see these two images together is so disgusting to see the lengths NASA is willing to go, to decieve. The pictures are found on TheLivingMoon.com and a good reference is by going to Coast to Coast Am, go to "past shows" then in the January section, look at Jan. 17th's link.
You can also listen to the show with Lear and Richard C Hogland. It is excellent!!

Originally posted by mikesingh
I do not think its a mining op of any kind. A mine needs to have trackways along the sides for mechanical devices to go into the dug-outs to scoop out soil.

I don't see any indications of such tracks. Or how is the soil being scooped out from the bottom? This is just a meteor which has smashed to dust on the surface.

I agree there would be haul roads cut for equipment I don't see any nless maybe they used the hover craft that they showed in 60's we would have in the 21st century

i thought i selected the quote thingy, anyways someone asked what they would be mining, hope i am not repeating something....
elerium-115. i love running around this site and its links, you start to notice things fitting together. Phil Schneider mentions here:video.google.com...
(forget the exact time) that he heard rumors of the moon being mined.
(to clarify that, i don't believe he even mentions elerium, moreso that metal he was talking about thats used on all the vehicles he mentions.)


[edit on 16-3-2007 by jetflock]

Hi all, somewhere within the ATS forum, there is a picture of a "steam shovel" on the moon, and as well a "bucket excavator" picture on the moon. For the life of me, I can no longer find those picture... A lot of the earlier moon photos posted in these threads now are gone leaving the little red x box in the messages... Could someone repost those two pics, since I can't seem to find them here anymore... this time I will no longer trust ATS to hold photo's for any length of time and I will start downloading copies of photo's like those for posterity... thanks to whoever knows where those photos are...

irondogg

i would suggest checking www.thelivingmoon.com they have quite a few moon anomolies high-lighted and colorized. some really neat pictures

this picture here of a crane makes me go


here is a crane on earth


anyways, yea, thelivingmoon.com is great

peace!

[edit on 16-3-2007 by biotic]

[edit on 16-3-2007 by biotic]

Originally posted by biotic
i would suggest checking www.thelivingmoon.com they have quite a few moon anomolies high-lighted and colorized. some really neat pictures

Thanks for that photo Biotic! Much appreciated.

I have been to the living moon site alot, but to be honest sometimes I have troubles there... Admittedly though I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer if you know what I am saying... I will look through there again though... Thanks again Biotic!