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Obsession: The Movie Exposing Radical Islam

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posted on Sep, 17 2006 @ 08:57 PM
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Has anyone seen the movie Obsession about Radical Islam??

They are currently discussing it on the Glenn Beck program. Playing clips. Glenn Beck is calling this the "Most important movie you will ever see in your life".

I am going to order a copy of the DVD, but the site has been flooded by requests and is temporarily down. If anyone has seen this movie can you please comment on it.

Is it much bigger than anyone expected?

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Movie Description
Obsession is a film about the threat of Radical Islam to Western civilization. Using unique footage from Arab television, it reveals an 'insider's view' of the hatred the Radicals are teaching, their incitement of global jihad, and their goal of world domination. The film also traces the parallels between the Nazi movement of World War II, the Radicals of today, and the Western world's response to both threats. Featuring interviews with Daniel Pipes, Steve Emerson, Alan Dershowitz, a former PLO terrorist, and a former Hitler Youth Commander.

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Movie Website and Purchase

Here are some clips of the movie on YouTube.

[edit on 9/17/2006 by infinite8]




posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 02:06 PM
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What a shame, I thought ATS would have people that have seen this film. I'm going to watch a couple more of the clips tonight on YouTube and Google and comment on them.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 02:12 PM
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Thanks for the link. I'm going to give it a go.

The lack of response is probably an accurate reflection of the feeling of many, many members of ATS. The other response is for them to flood your thread to tell you that you hate people and are a war monger.




posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 02:23 PM
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Well warmonger I am not. Muslim hater I am not. What people in this world need to realize is that they are not being provided with all of the information on how large a threat Radical Islam is to everyone. Do they think that these bombings over the last few decades are coincidental? A war has been waged, to them it is already ongoing. It is not a threat to only Christians and Jews. In addition, there are tv shows, rallies, and recruiting that is taking place in many countries where people are being taught to kill Americans, Britains, Israel, etc. My post is only to make people aware. What they choose to do with that information is a completely different subject. I always want to be made aware of what is going on in this world whether i like it or not.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 03:04 PM
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it just sounds like an inflamatory movie to me. I think the muslim people are persecuted enough because FOX only shows radicals shooting at american soldiers, we don't need to watch a movie dedicated to solidify the ignorant feelings of mainstream america.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by Babel Fish
it just sounds like an inflamatory movie to me. I think the muslim people are persecuted enough because FOX only shows radicals shooting at american soldiers, we don't need to watch a movie dedicated to solidify the ignorant feelings of mainstream america.


pffft! your ignorant if you dont think there is a fair share of muslims who would pick up a gun and shoot at you if they had half a chance.....

you cant show tolerance to someone who is so intolerant of you they simply are unwilling to co-exist.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 03:26 PM
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The indoctronation of the children really upset me. That little girl saying all those things
it's pretty sad that they dont allow the children to grow and decide for themselves.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by AlteredStates
The indoctronation of the children really upset me. That little girl saying all those things
it's pretty sad that they dont allow the children to grow and decide for themselves.


I agree, the statement "All Jews should die..because they are dogs." coming from a little girl that has obviously been taught this is very unsettling. Almost makes me think of the KKK and how many looked at blacks. It is a shame that these radical islamics are teaching their children this hatred and brainwashing from the moments they are born. They don't even have access to the information that would allow them an opportunity to feel otherwise.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Babel Fish
it just sounds like an inflamatory movie to me. I think the muslim people are persecuted enough because FOX only shows radicals shooting at american soldiers, we don't need to watch a movie dedicated to solidify the ignorant feelings of mainstream america.


Babel you are a little off. The film will be inflammatory because it shows how large of a group of people, Radical islamists feel this hatred and want condemnation of those who don't agree with them.

Yes the media is ignorant, but these are clips of film that were taken directly from tv shows and clips that the Radical Islamists watch and use for guidance. This is not the FOX news network.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 08:10 PM
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pffft! your ignorant if you dont think there is a fair share of muslims who would pick up a gun and shoot at you if they had half a chance.....


I am sure that some muslims do want to kill me, but not all do. and things like these movies will cause people to hate muslims not radicals. the vision of people these days are blurred by racial intolerance so they cannot tell the difference between a radical and a peaceful muslim.

what is the point of this movie, to inform us that there is a problem in the middle east? This is simply more propaganda that, for the most part, is ment to inflame americans further.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Babel Fish
I am sure that some muslims do want to kill me, but not all do. and things like these movies will cause people to hate muslims not radicals. the vision of people these days are blurred by racial intolerance so they cannot tell the difference between a radical and a peaceful muslim.

what is the point of this movie, to inform us that there is a problem in the middle east? This is simply more propaganda that, for the most part, is ment to inflame americans further.


At a time when thousands-if not millions- of Muslims are publicly calling for the execution of the Pope (as well as Israel and western nations in general) over something they took out of context due to their own self-inflicted ignorance, this film is not out of order. Especially given that millions did demonstrate, calling for once again the destruction of all that is not Muslim, over a freaking cartoon a few months back.

I'm no Muslim-hater (or Christian-hater, insert-religion-here hater) either, but there comes a time when you gotta just accept the situation for what it is.



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 02:06 AM
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Just to flip this over...

Has anyone seen "Jesus Camp"?

A growing number of Evangelical Christians believe there is a revival underway in America that requires Christian youth to assume leadership roles in advocating the causes of their religious movement.

Source
Trailer

Looks very much like the other side of the coin ta me.

Edit: That kid scares the hell outta me.

[edit on 19-9-2006 by BitRaiser]



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 02:28 AM
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Scary isn't the word.

But then again, we don't see the stuff from Obsession much on the nightly news, do we? We don't see generations raised to hate. We don't see it from either side, and I'd be more than willing to guess that in the next ten years, that the fanatics are going to rise in the US, in the Middle East (more so than they already are) and then, well...we're screwed. Hard. Right through the pants. Nuclear war, scorched earth policy, whatever it takes on both sides.

And I'll be getting ready until then, to rabbit off to the Saguenay until the destruction receeds.

DE



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by BitRaiser
Just to flip this over...

Has anyone seen "Jesus Camp"?

A growing number of Evangelical Christians believe there is a revival underway in America that requires Christian youth to assume leadership roles in advocating the causes of their religious movement.

Source
Trailer

Looks very much like the other side of the coin ta me.

Edit: That kid scares the hell outta me.

[edit on 19-9-2006 by BitRaiser]


Extremism is never a good thing. But the difference here is these children aren't being raised to hate an entire culture, or to call for its destruction.



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 02:58 AM
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G'day all,

Well, I saw some of those clipsd and cant wait to see if this documentary will make it to mainstream tv or it wont, just so those "appeasers" in the community get their way.

Anyway, people here are discrediting the threat to an extent and some are saying things like the US and the West have brought it upon themselves......well, regardless how it happened the past is the past and cannot be changed and we are at present in this predicament with the threat of Islam breathing down our necks, and we should be bringing up ideas or contingencies on how to deal with it.

Let me quickly bring forth to you a small scenario that I have previously posted in the past on a similar topic -

"Tomorrow morning you turn on the news as you get up and see the reports of a large scale Al-Qaeda attack on Pakistan's president Musharaf's residence, almost totally destroying it, and reports of a military coup taking place with fundamentalist muslim supporters flooding in from all over Pakistan to the capital aswell as Taliban fighters crossing over the border from Afghanistan.

You think to yourself, "Oh Yeah, this doesn't look too good" not fully comprhending the ramification of a militant Islamic coup-de-tat in Pakistan. News reports start to come in of Musharaf's and his party members heads on posts and Western flags burning. The Iranian president sends his people to contact the new leaders in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and organises a meeting to lay the foundation for a Nuclear Equipped Muslim Caliphate. The ultimate aim of Muslim militancy.

In the coming days as the world watches on and tries to find out what is going on in this troubled area of the world and the newly emrging Caliphate, pictures are smuggled out of western journalists and citizens being attacked. Western Embassies are given one chance only to leave and not come back. Members to this caliphate grow to include the former soviet central asian republics, the phillipines grows with unrest as political coups are attempted as in Malaysia, the worlds most populous muslim nation. The entire Mid-East soon follows suit and the ever growing boundries extend morocco in the West as nations in the way succumb to Muslim miltant euphoria and ride the wave of Al-Qaeda support. Lybia folds, Egypt becomes militant, Sudan and somalia join up and Turkey is at war with itself as militants try to take over .

The end result - As the West arms up and prepares for Armaegeddon, The militant Muslim Caliphate is knocking at the door of Greece, controls the top half of Africa and starts its influential push south, knock on the door of China as muslim poppulation in western china beg the caliphate for assistance. To the South, this new imperial Force begins it's push towards Australia, and to the North, it's Checnya's payback on Russia. "

This situation, although maybe not 100% the same as what I have explained above, is a VER REAL POSSIBILITY and could happen overnight. A new world superpower, a militant muslim nuclear capacity, a geographical reach to rival the likes of Genghis Kahn at his peak...........


The West will have no choice but to use nuclear weapons with the aim of mass human casualties against the Islamic peoples in a last bid to stop the surge and thier power.

Many of you will surely have different opinions on the outcomes and the course of action to be taken byt the West in this situation and I know many of you have far greater experience than myself so therefore I shall not be at all bitter from your reactions or contructive criticisms to this topic or my analysis of it.

Thankyou, and may I just say that when the # hits the fan, the West MUST stick together no matter what!!!



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 03:32 AM
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YAY TV is at it once again!!




Anyway, people here are discrediting the threat to an extent and some are saying things like the US and the West have brought it upon themselves......well, regardless how it happened the past is the past and cannot be changed and we are at present in this predicament with the threat of Islam breathing down our necks, and we should be bringing up ideas or contingencies on how to deal with it.


Thats not fare...ur saying that they should just forget that the west trashed there country for oil...killed there children and women and you say "Look man dont worry about it, that was ages ago"

THIS IS WAR...Our leaders put us in this position, kill or be killed...WHY CANT WE JUST #ING LIVE!!
We should be helping these people or leave them alone and tell our leaders to say sorry for the past.
Look at south america now...oh hang on a minute that was the past its ok...
MY ASS!!!

THIS type of crap is being tolled everyday on the news....this is nothing new to everyone, everyone now knows that muslims love jihad and blah blah blah!!
The amount of ignorence in people is eating me up inside, iv stoped trying to tell these people that we shouldnt do this we have no right to be angry at them...ITS OUR LEADERS WE SHOULD BE WAGING WAR AGAINST..not the works/people of the middle east!!
WE ARE SUCH ROBOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


forget it...i cant be botherd anymore im just gonna end it like this i cant even be botherd to look back at what i wrote



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 06:28 AM
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Guerilla,

you quoted;

"Thats not fare...ur saying that they should just forget that the west trashed there country for oil...killed there children and women and you say "Look man dont worry about it, that was ages ago"

THIS IS WAR...Our leaders put us in this position, kill or be killed...WHY CANT WE JUST #ING LIVE!! "

Im not saying we should forget the past, but what has been done, regardless by who, you cannot change now. Im not saying that our western leadership is innocent but it wont solve things by holding a mid-east conference with the arabs and saying" yeah, we f@#ked up, we shouldnt have messed with your affairs in the last hundred years, and taken ya oil, oh, and those couple of crusades we sent down your way 1000 years ago, yeah, we sorry for messin up the place, but the place looks sorta good now in some places coz our money has built up your infrastructure......blah, blah, blah "

regardless how things have eventuiated you cannot change the path things are heading. if you change the current administrations in the west, the Islamic militants will still be angry and bitter with us, it wont stop terrorist acts.

What I understand you are saying is that you think there is a way to end all this crap, but getting rid of our leaders? It isnt the current administrations that have caused this but the administrations of the entire last century that have continued their policies of exploiting Arab oil for western corporate gain.

We could have had renewable electric based societies for over 50 years now and let the arabs perish without our cash for their oil. But then I guess you would have complained about that too wouldn't you.

Sometimes you just can't get your point across with those who don't want to see the whole picture......



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 07:19 AM
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Jesus camp is tame compared to children taught to wear suicide bomb belts and shoot guns. This is not a militant opperation and you would not find a context out of the New Testiment that could be used be used to threaten other races or beliefs or people. Well None I can think of at their young age.

This documentary had to be made, this is happening in London this is happening in Islamic schools in the UK, its not made up or meant to incite more hatred but to specialise in that subject and its growing threat. It should be made just for the reason someone thinks we could be in world danger. What other people think is their own decision, if they end up hating all Muslims then they missed the point and forgot to turn the other Cheek as Jesus once said. But if there is a growing threat why are British Islamic schools of Hate also being exposed right now?

They probably know more English than we know their Arabic so they can get away with alot on their TV or cable stations in what they have to say. It takes one of their own or a bilingual speaker to understand their view on us. Not many white Westerners know Arabic compared to Arabic people knowing the English language.

The hate started when the rest of the World did not submit to Islam.



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by The time lord

The hate started when the rest of the World did not submit to Islam.



Very troubling thought, yet very true.

In the escalating tension between east and west it is important that we know who and what the threats against your people are. Islamic extremists wish to bury anyone who doesnt convert to islam. George bush may be a loon but you must ask yourself how far jihadists are going to use him, the pope, cartoons as an excuse to cause even MORE tension between civilizations. The pope appologised, is that enough? Not for the extremists.

One question I ask over and over again without any good answer is.... If extremists and your average muslim are so different then why hasnt there been a division of jihad from islam? Why havent any figureheads of the Islamic faith stood up against these extremists who go against the fundamental ideas of Islam? There is too much cohesion between Muslims and therefore this war is innevitable.

If we attack our own government and bring down capitalism we will just be inviting the bigger threat into our own country. A civil war in America is the last thing we need because even though I am not a fan of this neo con political system, its a walk in the park compared to an islamafascist state where people are forced to convert to islam or die.

Its amazing how many americans give these extremists the benefit of the doubt not realizing that many muslims are hell bent on walking all over this country and executing anyone that doesnt conform to their views.

Its always good to be fair and understanding to other cultures but when our way of life is being threatened by a massive religious army its time to put aside the details and brace for impact. When the islamafascists are standing on your doorstep it will be too late. This isnt time for racism, its time for preperation.

You cant hug and kiss those who wish to destroy you. Jihadists dont concern themselves with your individuality. They want to see you dead.



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 08:58 AM
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Melbourne_Militia

You give very little credit to these people, you seem to take em as dumb monkey's!
All you have said in your last post is that the arab people cant live without the west, that if you do this then this will happen to them.
Thats the typical thinking of a spoiled people.

Instead of looking at what happend thousands of years ago try to look at what the west has done yesterday and threatening to do to other arab nations tomorrow...then try and put yourself in there shoes and see what you come up with.

Dont you think that maybe the media is putting all this negative images to us in order for us to feel that the jobs of our leaders are being done to protect us thus electing that same leader again and again for his/her benefit...for him/her to gain more riches from us?



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