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Originally posted by a1ex
Is your government looking for your best interest?
or is the government looking afer it's own best interest?...(which is not your best interest.)..unless you're related
Originally posted by Valhall
READ THE 911 COMMISSION REPORT.
Further to that, you do not say "operatives had been instructed" when you are talking about nothing but plans that did not get carried out. If you plan something and then don't carry it out, then you never get to the point you "instruct the operatives". You just plan, and then don't do anything.
There have been no failed plans to fly planes into buildings that KSM was involved in, so it wasn't a failed operation he was referring to.
KSM was involved in one plan with planes flying into buildings...and the operatives of that plan had been instructed to ensure the explosives were set at a height in the building to prevent occupants above that point from escaping.
Originally posted by uknumpty
I've lost count of how many times I've used this eyewitness report of explosions in WTC2 but here it is again.
Eric Levine
We had reached either the 51st or the 50th floor when we heard a huge explosion, which shook the building like crazy!...
Then the building began to sink. That’s the only way I can describe it. The floor began to lower under my feet
Originally posted by forestlady
The firefighters were put under a gag order and all film that anyone had was confiscated by the government....
Also, many of the people being treated for lung and other ailments from the debris of 911, have been reported as having signs of exposure to high levels of radiation, such as that received from nuclear devices.
Originally posted by forestlady
P.S. - Jet fuel burns at about 700 degrees. The WTC towers were built to withstand up to 3,000 degrees.
For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of plane attacks on building inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out. That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people.
Originally posted by grimreaper797
so what your telling me is that after such a mind blowing event, even in the eyes of the planner who didnt expect such results, they were going to put explosives in the building as well?
after 9/11 I dont see what the point of putting explosives along with the airliner would be, unless 9/11 had explosives to begin with. If there were no explosives in the WTC then I dont think the second wave would include explosives, ESPECIALLY since it is know this guy hated complexity. He wanted things as simple as possible, so why would he make the plot more complicated, when he had results like the WTC collapse (assuming only airliners caused the collapse)
Originally posted by The_Modulus
Note the either poor gramatical transcript or speech itself in regards to the word building, but also note that the word 'building' is used and not WTC.
For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of plane attacks on buildings inside the U.S.
Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Well I might be one of the few people that agree with leftbehind, but to me the quotes are being taken out of context and Bush was not referring to the twin towers when he mentioned explosives. He's an evil little gnome that doesn't get out of bed without an ulterior motive, but in this case I think it was about supporting his illegal surveillance and torture programs, not admitting there were explosives in the WTC buildings.
original quote by: Valhall
THAT's been the point. With the finding of the 2002 plot on the Library Tower, that now makes this more complicated as the statement could apply to that plot, and not the 9/11 plot.
Originally posted by Valhall
Well, I'm glad some one else pointed that out, and I didn't have to. I make of it this:
That plot wasn't thwarted because of information obtained from KSM interrogations. So IF the Library Tower plot is what he was referring to, LeftBehind's argument that this is a litany of thwarted plots based on information from KSM goes out the window.
Originally posted by TONE23
My question is: Just what foiled plot IS GWB talking about in that statement?(for those that say he is NOT talking about WTC)
The three plots targeting U.S. territory included the well-known case of Jose Padilla, who was arrested after he allegedly explored a possible radiological "dirty bomb" attack, and two plans to use hijacked planes to attack the West Coast in mid-2002 and the East Coast in mid-2003. The White House document gave no further details about the timing or targets of the latter two.