posted on Mar, 2 2007 @ 06:34 AM
I know what you mean, However as with all of these things humans are still learning, growing and understanding our own evolution through the
observation of our cousins.
Once they are gone like modern humans now trying to understand the lives of dinosaurs through fossils, we can gain an understanding of the
physiology of the animals, their food and environment... but not the most important things, their behaviour, group dynamics, beliefs and societical
As we have observed a very huge difference in these things between common chimps and bonobos, with very little DNA difference (about the same
variation as humans such as pygmies and and an Eskimo) but with massively different ways of life, behaviour and social structures, it surely points to
the need for humans to explore and reopen the Nurture debate in relation to the very behaviour humans themselves would like to evolve past, such as
the wars you talk about.
This is the whole point if we an learn through observing these wonderful animals what the main factors are in creating this unique behaviour and
structure, which is obviously as pointed out above not based on DNA, or genetic heritage. This surely gives humanity hope that we too can choose to
evolve in the way socially that they have, so Wars are a thing of the past. These creatures allow us to model and take on board the positive
translatable parenting, male and female interaction, teaching and reactionary behaviour to threats they have to improve our society and life
Personally obviously humans are more evolved intellectually and in terms of body and physiology, though I believe we still are like common chimps
in our societical structures, look at human gangs, like chimps hunting other primates for team work and fun (if you can call it that) with often no
gain for the group as a whole except teamwork, infact what this behaviour does is only for the "strongest" to assume his place in the hierarchy
within that society, creating division and control this is obviously the ancient behaviour that has lead to humans thinking they are evolved because
they drop laser guided bombs onto innocent civilians, out technology, amazing stuff but with a more technological copying of basic chimp hunting
I truly see very little difference between a president or leader starting a war, all the hot air and sabre rattling before hand (press / internet),
and usually picking a weaker (perceived sic Iraq !) target, and using overwhelming force and numbers to "win the war".
Watch common chimps hunt another primate, you get the alpha male screeching and getting the whole group into a frenzy, the alpha male will then coerce
the whole group through subjugation into compliance then usually if the prey is of a threatening nature will not actually risk his own life to kill it
but allow its (head to be brought on a plate) by its next in line with the group. Also usually only the Alpha male and his chosen female chimps get to
eat the meat, the ones doing all the work don’t get a reward, just do it for the emotional and learnt response and out of fear. NOW look at a
typical war and compare?
Alpha chimp/ Human Leader .... gets excited or set on a course of action, creates the excitement within his group for this aim, Press UN speeches
If anyone does not agree with the Alpha Male is driven from the group... well that’s politics for you!
If you try and oppose the Alpha Male/ Leader you are attacked yourself (soldiers executed for not going to war!)
The Alpha Male directs and leads the hunt but usually does not risk his own life ... well when was the last time a President picked up a gun in a
The conquest happens the strength of the Alpha Male/ Leader is now more solid, his powers of subjugation more and to boot he gets the spoils..... well
what happened to the oil in Iraq? Good shares for all the construction and arms companies.
This chance will be lost forever for humans to choose to learn a new way of being of interacting and of how to deal with the balance of female
and male energies that govern our world and lead to both great things i.e. male energies creating industry space exploration, science etc however also
Wars, Aggression violence, and Female energy, Caring Families and teaching learning education, spirituality etc but on the down side for them inaction
when needed superstitious and hesitant to get involved and make a change when necessary.
We need to keep the positive aspects of ourselves but learn from the bonobos and take on board new ones whilst shedding our animalistic behaviour in
other regards. In a sense the bonobos are much more highly evolved, to have evolved passed war, murder and aggression is a wonderful thing surely?
[edit on 2-3-2007 by MischeviousElf]