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Cameron warning of 'danger to UK'

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posted on Sep, 15 2006 @ 05:07 AM
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English ignorance of Scotland is damaging the union, according to the UK Conservative leader David Cameron.

The warning is contained in a speech setting out Mr Cameron's approach to Scottish affairs, which he will deliver in Glasgow.

He wants Scotland to remain part of the UK, but says unionists have to develop better arguments against independence.


news.bbc.co.uk...

well, thats a suprise.

i can see the Conservatives becoming more "Federal" under Cameron, i recall hearing that Cameron is a fan of an English Parliament.

im not sure how well this will go down in Scotland, Tories didn't really leave a good reputation in Scotland




posted on Sep, 15 2006 @ 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by infinite
i can see the Conservatives becoming more "Federal" under Cameron, i recall hearing that Cameron is a fan of an English Parliament.


Why would the party become more Federal if he favoured devolution of powers?

To be honest, on the people level the union still stands strong, the media just like to bring the issue up now and again for some fear mongering when the big wheel of issues gets around again.

Mr Cameron is simply playing to the political issue wheel to get himself noticed and his party in the media more.

[edit on 15-9-2006 by Prometheus James]



posted on Sep, 15 2006 @ 07:16 AM
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Seems to me like it's just another angle on the usual tory tactic on this; basically hot air and a handful of veiled threats.

It always boils down to 'if Scotland dares to ask for more self-government then expect English nationalism to rise and be hostile to Scotland' - despite the vast dominance of England in the power relationship between the 2 countries
(and that has nothing to do with there being some Scots administering the gov at this particular moment in time).

The irony is that that hostility (or as he, being so concerned, puts it 'misunderstanding' or 'ignorance') is largely enunciated by his own tory MP pals and their tory pals in the media!

But I'll agree with PJ here, typical vacuous media-dolly Cameron, nothing much to say but a long time saying it (in front of the cameras).

The man was caught and summed up beautifully during Armando Iannucci's recent (and, IMO, excellent) 'Time Trumpet'; patronising and calculating is not the word.

It was during the recent world cup.
There's a TV crew with their camera still running and he is about to get a load of newspaper photographers taking shots of him ('tight in' shots) and the TV crew catch him quickly looking to check his cuffs to see that his little 'England' wrist-band is visible, it isn't and so he pulls it down so it can be seen on all the pics.
The look on his face says it all.
Cos that old Etonian tory son of privilege is just like the rest of us.
Aye right.


(It's available on UKNova, a brilliant (legal) downloading site specialising in British TV.
Well worth the effort to try and join - membership is closed but every now and again it opens.
The series is well worth downloading anyway but that moment was a real coup.)



[edit on 15-9-2006 by sminkeypinkey]



posted on Sep, 15 2006 @ 07:52 AM
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Tories eh? Where are they?! Nowhere in sight!

There is a good number of reasons why the Tories aren't in power, partly because Scotland will NEVER EVER EVER EVER have another Tory government thanks to...things in the past.



posted on Sep, 15 2006 @ 11:41 AM
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To the above poster. If They get a majority in England, Then Scotland will be sold down the river exactly the same way it was when Thatcher and Major were in Government.

Nationalism works both ways though. There is must anti english feelins up here as there is in England.

Why shouldnt england have their own parliament.?

We have ours.

Would help maybe in a small way to stop all this bickerin.

As for Cameron well. (No comment on him).



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 10:37 AM
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If they want their own parliament, I see nothing wrong with that, but it may weaken the union. Perhaps we should have a meeting place, where 4 times a month, representatives from their constituencies, Scotland, England, Northern Ireland and Wales can have a talk on how well the cogs are turning. That way, all of our misguided patriotism won't facilitate the ending of the union. It would be very very expensive if all of the countries spilt apart.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by MacDonagh
Tories eh? Where are they?! Nowhere in sight!

There is a good number of reasons why the Tories aren't in power, partly because Scotland will NEVER EVER EVER EVER have another Tory government thanks to...things in the past.


Personally, I'd love to see the Greens get in.

That said, I read in "Nexus" magazine's report on the last Bilderburg gathering that Cameron's got their backing. Blair was the last recipient of their support in the UK. The way Labour's going now, it wouldn't surprise me if Cameron did start to look electable by comparison.

And the last prediction about Bilderberger backing came true. I read in the same source that Angela Merckel would be the "new boss" ("same as the old boss", thanks Pete) in Germany... when I told a friend of mine living over there he derided it as ridiculous. And yet, some weird electoral shenanignans later, there she is, holding the reins of power.

If Cameron does get in I shall regard it as an indicator that the Bilderbergers have way too much influence.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 11:37 AM
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Argh, if Cameron gets into government, we'll all be hugging hoodies! Then where will we be?!



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