posted on Sep, 15 2006 @ 07:30 PM
Of course you never stopped to think that with subjective proof, the doubter would also have to "subject" him/herself to the same
conditions/standards to see whether or not it is possible, hence subjective proof can be admitted, albeit on a very small scale.
Why does the Bible hold so much weight and is able to get some-one to enlightenment? Because it was written by others who were enlightened and know
how to get you "there". Your whole "slaves & masters" concept is delusional, since you youself are a slave to your corporate job, a slave to your
own fate, a slave to the limitations and boxes you have around yourself knowing as much or little as you know, a slave to the Government with taxes
and social security, a slave to nature and weather, etc. But, when you become one with God and enlightened, you learn how to master these things, so
in reality your "slaves & masters" argument was slightly twisted.
I claim to know God and have a personal enlightening relationship with him, and since God and the state I'm in are both beyond words, which have
inumerable limitations based on the perspective of the one who is hearing them, how in the world could I possibly describe to you or to anyone, any of
this. Imagine the things I must be going through and the looks on peoples faces that I've seen when stating what I claim. But regardless of what you
ar anyone think, it is all real and did happen to me and many others that live in this state.
Yeah, o.k. in the beginning you have to relie on Faith because you can't see, but then when you reach this"state" it is no longer Faith because you
can see. You see? I posed all those questions to show you that you cannot back up the claims of what you believe in just as much as it may seem to you
that I cannot back mine up, though if we start using the Socratic method and dedactics over who makes more logical and resonable sense, I would, and
do have, a larger number of people in this world on my side.
"Its taking quite a while. So Im just supposed to blindly believe in something because a scientist might one day prove it true? In that case i
believe that david hasslehoff is god because one day a scientist might prove it. Good point genious."
Come on now, look at your reasoning...... We are talking abouyt a transcendent, omni-everything God. Where did Hasselhoff come from besides the fact
that he is a superstar in Germany, which is a joke anyway. LOL, you are funny I must say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah religion and wars. The age old justification technique against organized religion. Again use the gun metaphor. A gun is inherently
indifferent, and can be used for good or bad either way.
All my arguments have conclusions. As far as evidence, it can only be found if you were to trully reach spiritual enlightenment and an indwelling of
God, which is completely realistic and achievable.
Just because there is more then 1 religion doesn't mean that God doesn't exist, which is an Illogical statement.
You could start a religion or cult, but you'd have to at least be able to provide some miracles and/or death defying feats to be able to prove your