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Objective, Burma! (1945)
Errol Flynn's paratroopers overcome the Japanese with barely a Brit in sight, although it was really they who won the battle. The press and public, some of whom had fought in Burma, were so outraged that the film had to be withdrawn.
The Great Escape (1963)
Steve McQueen played a leading part in a mass escape from a POW camp. In real life, 76 got out of Stalag Luft III, but only three made it alive; 50 were shot and 23 recaptured. No Americans among them.
Braveheart (1995)
Mel Gibson as a charming William Wallace - not the real man who wore the skin of an opposing general as his belt. Wallace fathers a son by the Princess of Wales who really gave birth seven years after his execution.
Titanic (1998)
First Officer William McMaster Murdoch is remembered as a hero in his Scottish home for saving passengers. He froze to death in the sea. The film shows him shooting passengers in a blind panic.
U-571 (2000)
Harvey Keitel and other plucky American seamen pull an Enigma code machine from a sinking German submarine and change the course of the war. Except that it was the crew of HMS Bulldog.
The Patriot (2000)
Gibson again as a pacifist provoked into joining the American War of Independence when sadistic Brits herd women and children into a church and set fire to it. Nothing like that happened.
Every year, Hollywood producers ask the Pentagon for help in making films, seeking everything from locations and technical advice to Blackhawk helicopters and nuclear-powered submarines. The military will happily oblige, it says in an army handbook, so long as the movie "aid[s] in the recruiting and retention of personnel." The producers want to make money; the Defense Department wants to make propaganda. Former Hollywood Reporter staffer Robb explores the conflicts resulting from these negotiations in this illuminating though sometimes tedious study of the military-entertainment complex over the last 50 years.
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And ask yourself.. How do people of other countries feel seeing their history trodden on by Hollywood?
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
I'm perfectly happy for the US to make such (brilliant) series as Band of Brothers and movies such as Blackhawk Down. There is even a rather good one set in the Hurtgen Forest.
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
But (some of) the examples you quote are just part of the US' guilt complex over their late entry into WW2. They need to constantly remind themselves that they saved the world, and erase the stain of their earlier cowardice.
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
Yes, there were Yanks in the BoB (but not Affleck or Cruise!) but the tide was actually turned by the Poles and one Czeck named Frantisek.
The RAF recognises [1] 2440 British and 510 overseas pilots who flew at least one authorised operational sortie with an eligible unit of the Royal Air Force or Fleet Air Arm during the period 10 July to 31 October 1940. 498 RAF pilots were killed during the battle. The Battle of Britain was the first major battle to be fought entirely in the air.
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
But when Hollywood is run by lawyers who have never studied film, the questions go like this:
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
The falsification of history has done more to impede human developement than any other one thing known to mankind.
--Jean Jacques Rousseau
Originally posted by fingapointa
There's a really good documentary about just this sort of thing, called "operation Hollywood".
Originally posted by fingapointa
And ask yourself.. How do people of other countries feel seeing their history trodden on by Hollywood?
Originally posted by jlc163
Originally posted by fingapointa
And ask yourself.. How do people of other countries feel seeing their history trodden on by Hollywood?
It's not like Hollywood's the only one. Ours tend to be much more obvious for us to figure out. (I prefer historically accurate films, anyway.) My God, you think the american people take it seriously when we had a white guy playing the last Samuari...the same white guy? Come on, we tend to think the man is a nutter.
It's a bit better than the whole country's denial of facts. (Re: Frencn resistance movement during Nazi Germany subordination, aka: WWII.) Often, the lie is much more palletable than the truth.
Both concepts ont he French, actually. It came out a few years back, that whole mess.
Originally posted by fingapointa
Originally posted by jlc163
Originally posted by fingapointa
And ask yourself.. How do people of other countries feel seeing their history trodden on by Hollywood?
It's not like Hollywood's the only one. Ours tend to be much more obvious for us to figure out. (I prefer historically accurate films, anyway.) My God, you think the american people take it seriously when we had a white guy playing the last Samuari...the same white guy? Come on, we tend to think the man is a nutter.
It's a bit better than the whole country's denial of facts. (Re: Frencn resistance movement during Nazi Germany subordination, aka: WWII.) Often, the lie is much more palletable than the truth.
Which "ours" are you talking about? Aussie of Frenchy?
I was gonna bring up the Last Samurai, but I'm pretty satisfied that everyone but the pentagon thinks Tom Cruise is a nutter. I reckon, they think he's an effective propaganda delivery mechanism. What facts are the French denying? Are they about the resistance to, or the collaboration with the nazi's.