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Originally posted by DJMessiah
Incorrect. People who make these statements don't look hard enough. Muslims all over the world denounce terrorism and violence, and yet the media will not focus on us. I don't consider extremists as "Muslim," due to the fact that they go against the teachings of the Quran (there is no compulsion in religion, give peace when it is asked, do not be the agressors, value all human life over killing, respect other faiths.) I do my part in educating the public, so don't think we Muslims do not preach peace.
Over-exaduation, and was not meant to be seen as if I directly believed that. Should have put quotes, to read like this:
Originally posted by Odium
jlc163, where to begin?
Let’s pick out this bit first:
(I.e. Spainards are better than others and only Spain shall prevail, and btw, Spain is ONLY catholic.)
Spain now is not only Catholic, you must know this. So I assume you must mean during the Spanish Inquisition. Granada ring a bell? Boabdil of Granada maybe? Islam was banished from Spain in 1492 but it still did exist there during the Inquisition, however the Inquisition itself only had power over baptized Christians.
Sorry, but Spain has never been a solidly Catholic Nation.
Reference: Hugh Kennedy, Muslim Spain and Portugal: A Political History of al-Andalus,
The ONLY reason it is failing is because it's crumbling into a Socialist state (socialsist, in basic terms=democracy+communism),
No it’s not. I suggest you read over some socialist books, Robert Owen is a good start.
Socialism and Communism, only has something to do with each other in the minds of Marxists. Communism existed hundreds of years before the word Socialism ever did. About 1780 [Robert Owne] to then 1516 [Thomas More]. Socialism never has been Democracy + Communism.
Which is why I stated, AT MOST he was a pagan with a soft spot for Wagner.
Nope.
Hitler believed in Positive Christianity.
Reference: Richard Steigmann-Gall, The Holy Reich, Cambridge University Press, 2003
Pope Benedict XVI on Wednesday expressed deep respect for Islam and emphasized the belief in one God that unites Muslims and Christians -- his latest attempt to defuse the crisis swirling around his recent comments on Islam.
At a weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square, before thousands of pilgrims and amid tight security, Benedict went further than he has to date, not only reiterating his regret for the fury that his comments provoked, but also pronouncing his high regard for the faith that those words seemed to attack.
Originally posted by tkmelb
Originally posted by bih
I dont know what to say but who would listen to a child molesting retarded pope anyway
[edit on 17-9-2006 by bih]
Well don't say anything as you have added nothing to this thread with your totally immature and offensive comments.
I await the day when every day catholics start burning effigies (sp?) of people that insult their religion, could start with the creators of South Park............ Oh wait a minute 21st Century Catholics arn't mental and don't have such thin skin, if they did then this world would be in kaos as a billion people protest every day over another attack on their religion.
Edit : typo
[edit on 17/9/06 by tkmelb]
Originally posted by bih
and you are here what?? like I said how many alone in the USA have been charged with molesting little kids.at least you dont hear that from muslims
Civil Code provides that marriage contracted before puberty is invalid unless authorized by natural guardian with ward?s best interests in mind.? When authorized before puberty, minimum age is nine.
Originally posted by RedGolem
With every news relic he goes a little bit farther. Now one must wonder what the people want who are still complaining about the situation?
Originally posted by TheBorg
To be fair though, there's a lot of Muslim clerics that like to criticize the West and other religions all of the time, yet we don't hear about Christians and Jews going and blowing themselves up to vent their anger at the situation. I think they just can't handle the criticism because they figure the Pope's right. Perhaps, they just wanted a reason to be able to justify attacking Christians. I certainly hope that's not the case, since that means that they've forgotten their own history.
The chairman of Nahdlatul Ulama, Indonesia's largest Muslim organization, has said that Muslims are obligated to accept Pope Benedict XVI's apology according to Islamic teachings.
"As long as it (the Pope's remarks) was made out of negligence, we are obliged to accept the apology," explained Hasyim Muzadi at a religious conference Monday in Jakarta.
"If the rage continues, perhaps what the pope said is true," he added.
Originally posted by TheBorg
I'm still trying to figure out why the Pope even bothered to make a formal apology to the Muslim community for the statements that he quoted. Everyone has a right to an opinion...
Originally posted by TheBorg
I'm still trying to figure out why the Pope even bothered to make a formal apology to the Muslim community for the statements that he quoted. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but they don't have a right to go off and kill someone over said differences in opinion.
TheBorg
Originally posted by df1
Im no fan of the pope, however I think his apology was a noble act and that he apologized because he wanted to stop the violent response to his previous remarks. Whether his remarks were accurate or not, imho he did what a man of God should do in this particular instance.
Well, now you're beginning to ask the questions that I've been asking since I first heard about this story. I never understood the big deal with it myself. If some people are going to get all flustered because they can't contain their own emotions over a simple opinion spoken by someone else, then I think they need to stop listening to anyone period. It'd prolly be the best thing for them.
Source
Christian mobs attacked police posts and other government symbols in at least two Indonesian districts Friday after the early-morning execution of three Christian militants convicted of leading six-year-old attacks in which at least 70 Muslims died.
Originally posted by Odium
Skadi_the_Evil_Elf, your post might hold some weight if what you said was true. However it’s not.
It’s all well and good, going on and on about how you never see Christian’s Riot but they get their way.
Let’s look at this event, Muslims first complain about what the Pope said. Nothing happens, it then takes weeks for something to happen.
Then look in the United Kingdom. The television show called “Pope Town” was axed and not shown on television after Christian groups complained about it being blasphemes. Oddly it didn’t make the television.
Then you have the show in the Netherlands called “God Does Not Exist”. There was mass outcry from Religious Groups there. Just like this, however that never made the television. Oddly.
How about in February when Christian groups ruined the Mosque in Onitsha's? Clearly, in Nigeria the Christian groups have been attacking people. Resulting in the deaths of over 40 people with graffiti written on the Mosque’s such as “Mohammed doesn’t exist, Jesus is your saviour.” and so on and so fourth. Oddly it didn’t make it onto the T.V.
I can in fact, go on and on. Showing events where Christians have silenced freedom of speech. I can go on and on and show where Christians have killed people. I can show Christian extremists.
I can show Christians attacking Muslims when unprovoked.
I can show Christians to be just as bad as Muslims.
The fact is, the Media desires not to because it furthers their Apocalyptic Agenda.