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Originally posted by half_minded
R u trying to imply that the terrorists around the world r muslims?
Originally posted by half_minded
It goes like this. You take a Quran and in the middle of the night (because of less distraction and quiteness) go somwhere isolated where no one would disturb you. Make a circle (with anything.....like a circle with ur fingers in the sand for example). Sit in the center of the circle and recite the Quran. You have to do this everyday for 40 nights. On the 40th night if you succeed then you will be given possession of Jinns (Genies). You can then command these jinns to do stuff for u. But theres a catch. When you recite the Quran you will see strange and scary creatures outside the circle. You have to continue reading the Quran without getting scared of the creatures. Every night the creatures get scarier and scarier. In fact they are so scary looking that you can not actually imagine them. Forget the monsters shown in hollywood movies.
Originally posted by TheBandit795
This reminds me of Aleister Crowley alledged foray into the desert and of the summoning of goetia demons...
Originally posted by Mezzanine
Im almost positive that this isnt in the Qur'an, or even practiced in Islam at all, but rather found in a fictionalized version of the Necronomicon.
If anyone has evidence that I am wrong, please post, and I will gladly eat my words.
However, I do remember reading about something very similiar to what the Original Poster discussed in Necronomicon: The Wanderings of Alhazred. This book is fictional and written by Donald Tyson.
::Snip::
In the meantime, it is important to remember that the Necronomicon is a fictional book. I have studied HP Lovecraft for going on three years now, and I can tell you without a doubt that the Necronomicon has never existed as a real book of forbidden knowledge, only as a tribute from various authors to Lovecraft.
Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by Mezzanine
Im almost positive that this isnt in the Qur'an, or even practiced in Islam at all, but rather found in a fictionalized version of the Necronomicon.
If anyone has evidence that I am wrong, please post, and I will gladly eat my words.
OK
Islam is a Abrahamic religion, and like all Abrahamic religion the source for being able to summon "demons" or more correctly Jinn in this case is the same, King Solomon. The problem is there is very little in English about Islamic magic.. and from all reports that is not much in Arabic either. The Sufi who are the Islamic version of the Christian Gnostics (well almost) and known to prefer word of mouth teachings (So much so that they make their text hard to understand so the master is needed to pass on the information to his student)
Just like mainstream Judaism and Christianity, mainstream Islam also in many cases does not approve of these orders (Mostly they are criticized as being non Islamic).
Directions on how they did it are available in a fictionalized form, For example in a groups of stories that have been handed down by word of mouth for ages, I'm sure you have heard of the The Book of One Thousand and One Nights?
Take a look at the story of Aladdin's lamp... You have some Jinn impressed in a brass lamp, now look at the story of King Solomon what did he do? He stored the demons he caught in a brass vessel. In other stories in 1001 nights you will find the use of magical circles, and many other indications of magical instructions.
Originally posted by Cug
Originally posted by Mezzanine
However, I do remember reading about something very similiar to what the Original Poster discussed in Necronomicon: The Wanderings of Alhazred. This book is fictional and written by Donald Tyson.
::Snip::
In the meantime, it is important to remember that the Necronomicon is a fictional book. I have studied HP Lovecraft for going on three years now, and I can tell you without a doubt that the Necronomicon has never existed as a real book of forbidden knowledge, only as a tribute from various authors to Lovecraft.
But the Necronomicon is not a fictional book. The book and it's system are real, but it's history is fictional, it's not some old grimoire written my a mad Arab, it is a new grimoire written in the 70's by a guy in NY. And of course your gona find similar things in it, this stuff is the basics of magick and you will find similar stuff everywhere.
Originally posted by probedbygrays
[edit on 14-9-2006 by probedbygrays]
Originally posted by Mezzanine
Seriously this was the kind of information that I was searching for at school for a good hour. Im glad someone posted this. I would like to find some information in english on this though, to satisfy my own personal curiosity.
I find it interesting that so many traditions are taken from 1001 Nights.
My question to you is, how did the techniques for the summoning develop? How do people know what to do? I cant imagine that 1001 Nights has explicit instructions, so how did the people summoning know exactly what to do?
My next question for you is, have you (or do you personally know anyone) who has done a summoning similiar to what the original poster suggested?
My big problem with what you said above is that it is actually called the Necronomicon. Someone in New York in the 70's using the name of a made up book from the 1920's is a little suspicious to me, and it raises alot of question as to the authenticity of the methods used in the "real" Necronomicon.
But regardless of the "real" book, you have to admit, to anyone who knows anything about the Mythical Necronomicon what the OP posted sounds like it came straight out of there.