John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

Speaking of the moon.


home builders wanted

Damnit Borg, that is the only proof you will get! They could be Imperial Walkers for all I know! Now sumpin's up w/these, and it is just too much to take in all at once.

There are those stones that leave trails in Death Valley, although no one to my knowledge has ever seen it done...

Now we have to rescour the Moon for "walkers"! Sheesh

Very true that is why I compared it to other objects in the image. If the object was not tall and it was only the angle of the sun, then the other rocks there would cast the SAME shadow...
They do NOT...only the one object has the long shadow


Also if you all recall the discussion of scale in the Copernicus images, since this picture was taken by Lunar Orbiter V, the same distance and scale applies as in Copernicus #5 in other words, the "boulder" would be several hundred feet across




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COOL Thanks for the link!!

Hey John! Look at this... remember our buddy Dale from Norcat with the Extra Terrestrial Bucket Excavator?....





BTW that planetary mining conference is being held in Sudbury, Ontario... a HUGE meteor impact crater and one of Canada's richest mining areas

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No, it's not. We can go to the moon and look for ourselves!! What's the big holdup? Better yet, turn Hubble on her, and take some snapshots. I know that Hubble can see those objects, and determine just WHAT they are, if anything. I mean, it can see galaxies millions of lightyears away, yet it can't pick out the stars on the US flag placed on the Lunar surface? Again, not buyin it.



Good point, and one that I forgot about. Maybe we should look into them a bit more for guidance.



Agreed. We need to do something, .

Seriously man, relax. It's ok that we disagree about the nature of this anomaly. That's what makes for interesting conversation. Hell, if we all just agreed on everything, then this board would be quite boring, and no one would be here. It's only when we put our collective heads together on something that we find the truth on it. It's that comraderie that I admire about this place.

Thanks for your input. Ya gave me something to think about.

TheBorg

Matyas hasn't finished getting the bugs out of the drive unit yet...




Not likely going to happen... IF there is something going on up there why would NASA let us use their telescope to have a look see? Mt Palomar could... but they won't... they says scientists would rather study the moon via satelite... so again NASA has the control...




Maybe we could raise money and buy some time on the Ikonos Satellite... its only about 2 grand per picture...



Good point, and one that I forgot about. Maybe we should look into them a bit more for guidance.

I'm going to be as polite as possible here. First and foremost, you're daft. You're not daft for being ignorant, you're daft for being ignorant and forming a strong opinion on that which you know nothing about.

The Moon is 384,400 km away. At that distance, the smallest things Hubble can distinguish are about 60 meters wide. The biggest piece of left-behind Apollo equipment is only 9 meters across and thus smaller than a single pixel in a Hubble image.

Dumb dumb dumb.

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Firstly, Mat (Can I call you mat? I mean, Matyas is toooo long. Saves time and space, what?! ), I don't fully agree with you when you say that you doubt the Chinese will make it to the Moon. You think the US of A has the guts and resources to aggressively stop them? Nah!

Second, What about the Indian Moon shot? The Chandrayaan 1, which will be launched later this year, is a remote-sensing spacecraft, which has sophisticated instruments aboard including the miniature synthetic aperture radar – mini-SAR, and will map the lunar surface using an array of sensors.

Now the question is, will the lid be finally blown? Or does India have a secret pact with NASA for status quo? Was this the quid pro quo for the Indo-American nuclear deal??

There's so much going on behind vaulted doors, that I think its naive to imagine that the truth will finally be out. But then again, let's wait and see what happens when the Moon's photographs start trickling in!

Cheers!

Expanding Possibilities


Please try harder and avoid resorting to insults to make your point -- especially since they don't make your point.

If you truly wish to be polite as possible, simply justifying your disagreement with facts will suffice.

There's no lid to blow off. John Lear is completely full of it; either he's mentally ill and believes himself or he's taking the piss. Done. Period. Over.

Of course the lack of any evidence won't appease the real conspiracy theorists; they'll just claim that the conspiracy runs even deeper.

You mean these facts?:


Sorry, but sometimes the posters on this site are so absurd it takes some ridicule to put them in line.

To quote Thomas Jefferson, "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them..."

If you aren't a rocket scientist then find someone who is, read his stuff, and form a notion based on that expert opinion. Don't make statements like:


when every astronomer out there (read: people who know what they're talking about) is going to rightly think you a fool.

There is a Space Guy in all of us

Borg, I wasn't so worked up as I wanted to work you up enough to realize that every time we find artifacts like this they won't be there when India or China gets there, much less us! And no, we don't have the qualifications to use other space hardware for the same job (...yet).

Sandman658- Now when do you suppose that technology came out for those inflatable houses (are quick enough to snatch the pebbles from my palm)?

Mikesingh- Just do so with two "t"(s) and it'll be good. I am not saying the truth is going to come out, in fact the exact opposite will happen. And the US can pick on anyone it wants, Iraq and Afghanistan were small fries.

Now with a fairly large sum of money, say around 30-50M I can build a reliable spacecraft that could reach any part of the solar system and carry whatever cargo is needed to get the job done. But we ain't gonna get our beamships without holding back on the best info, so I know it won't come out here either.

The curtain is going to have to come down on this act, and it would not be wise to play all the cards befire then...

Apology Not Accepted


Wrong.

I asked nicely, but you continue to operate under a gross conceptual error regarding the requirements for posting to ATS.

Consequently, and because you have chosen to do so in such a willful and problematic fashion, I have applied a temporary post ban to your account, and want to make sure everyone reading this thread knows that I did, and why I did.

You will either honor the AboveTopSecret.com Terms And Conditions Of Use and recognize that Courtesy Is Mandatory, or the post ban will become a permanent account ban.

I recommend reviewing the links I have provided and ask that you and all members bear in mind that attacks of this sort on other members are attacks on the principles upon which ATS depends and are therefore intolerable.

Please take a few days off to consider the importance of mutual respect to our discussions.

Well, Space Guy is on posting ban because he's saying what needs to be said and he's saying it from a position of expertise. But since it isn't what people want to hear (affirmation of their ridiculous theories) he gets shut down.

Way to go ATS moderation team. "Deny ignorance" my arse.

Position Of Expertise


No, you've been shut down because you refuse -- rather obnoxiously -- to honor the agreement you made by being a member.

I appreciate your desire to express your opinion candidly, and am quite a skeptic about all this myself, but registering this sock puppet to further violate the T&C and dishonestly try to circumvent staff action proves only that you are not suited to continued membership.

That's my position of expertise, and in response to your deliberate misconduct, both you and your sock puppet account have been banned.

Thank you moderator team. I don't understand why we can't post here without all this negativity.

Can anyone tell me the name of the large crater in this pic?

thestargates.com...

If the one on top is Aristarchus, as I think it is, then the darker one below is Herodotus.

Lomonosov, I am 100% confident

Edit to increase confidence level to unity.

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thanks, matyas. i like the little confidence level thing.