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reply posted on 26-12-2006 @ 03:31 PM by NJ Mooch
I thought that anomoly was the lunar orbiter doing a flyover? I know there are more pics of that online since I asked the same question before.

In other news, I don't know if you all new, but there is a full size mock up of the "Orion" moon base module at the Neutral Buoyancy Lab for astronauts to triain on. www.af.mil... mid way down the page

You don't put something in that pool unless you planned on using it for a real mission. If this moon base is supposed to be fully staffed by 2024, but our manned return trip to the moon no later then 2020, why do we have a mock-up in 2006? How soon are we going to be going back to the moon with this Orion concept if they already have a mock-up ready?
news.nationalgeographic.com...

Isn't that a little early if 2020 is the deadline outlined by President Bush? Or is there something else going on that we aren't supposed to know about yet. Maybe we will be going back sooner then we think or already have gone back. If that is the case, why keep it secret?

Is this mock-up for R&D purposes? This is a training pool afterall, not a testing facility. They can easily test this out at another facility, so why isn't there any more info on this anywhere?

BTW, it takes over a month to fill the pool up with water since they don't want to affect the local water pressure to fill it up faster. 19 hours to filter 100% of the 6.2 million gallons of water.
dx12.jsc.nasa.gov...


reply posted on 27-12-2006 @ 02:22 AM by zorgon
Happy Holidays All... took a couple days off to mingle with the eggnog

A few days back we posted a few clips from AS8-12-2209...

Here is another piece of it.... we call this one..

"Industrial Complex"

This is from the same NASA book, just took a new scan at 300 ppi...



"Farside Industrial Complex"

When you look at this from a distance, and compare it to shots taken of Earth you get a feeling that you are looking at a small town tucked into the mountains. The "industrial complex consists of many structures of variuos shape and size, but the are all aligned in a block. The area the buildings are in is a flat and VERY rectangular section, seen diamond shaped due to the viewing angle.

On the right is a visible section of a transit tube. On the left is a roadway that we have traced across the image of 2209. I will clip that latter with a tracing. From he higher level on the right with the odd constructs, you can see a string of spheres, or street lights, move down the hill to the complex and curve up.

Some of the landscaping looks very similar to vegetation on Earth. Below I have added two clips from a satellite image of Earth, one a dirt road thru vegetation, that has two groups of spheres, and one is a cross shaped pattern of street lights for comparison.

There are many more details in this area, but I have just pointed out the easiest to spot ones for now.






Below is a dirt road through trees, and two clusters of lights. The one below that is two crossing roads with street lamps. Both these clips are from Cape Kennedy Spaceport taken by satellite and reduced to approximate the scale.






COLLECTION PAGE IS HERE



reply posted on 27-12-2006 @ 03:25 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by NJ Mooch
I thought that anomoly was the lunar orbiter doing a flyover? I know there are more pics of that online since I asked the same question before.


"Lunar Orbiters had long since crashed when Apollo got to the moon. If you are talking about the Apollo Command Module, they orbited at 60 miles and THAT object is one heck of lot lower than 60 miles.”

That little data was from John....

Okay Okay I will do it right now.... sheesh can't a guy get a little R&R

A long long time ago... well near the start of this thread... there came a little picture of an anomaly that Valhal called "Peek-a-boo" Most likely the name came about because it looked like the object was "peeking" over the rim... so now we are forever stuck with that name...

or those who haven't seen it... I will repost it. I have managed to improve the view as well. This was one of the better objects in the JL picture... a round sphere with a connecting tube, and a hint of more behind the ridge. Even a little "window" that gives it an "eye"...



Now at this point I did not think it was a ship, more likely a habitat.. Here it is in colorization...



This was a clear enough image that I went looking for it in C#5 {this one is on C#2 below the "Box" on the top of the dump hill} By this time I had already familiarized myself with the orientation of C#5 {90 degrees right and about 50% smaller} in relation to C#1-C#4...

On the top of the dump from C#5 I found the following "artifact"



I had already been looking for spheres and tubes, but this one showed obvious connecting lines and an odd "C" shaped thing. Below I have highlighted the object in green...



I found several more of them in various patterns, even one hovering {evident by the shadow below it, though that one is a different configuration}

Here are some more from C#5... harder to see but they are similar..







This is the same only closer...



Most of these I found later...

Now after finding the "Peekaboo" from the top... a few days later Zarniwoop posted that Apollo 16 Photo on another thread... It was when I saw that image that I suddenly started taking this seriously...

Here is the image Zarni linked to earlier...with an outline of the ship...
Yes ship, because on the JL picture it is sitting on the ground in 1965... and here it is in the sky above Apollo 16 in 1972.



Here are two closeups up the object...
One taken from the photo as is , the other rotated to compare to "Peekaboo" in the C#5 from John





So there is the same collection of Spheres and connecting lines... and a "C" shape. This does not resemble the Lunar Orbiter even if it was still up there, nor does it look even close to the command module...

For future reference this can all be seen in the

COLLECTION at PEGASUS

Don't go away yet folkes... it gets better...

TO BE CONTINUED NEXT POST...

Need COFFEE


[edit on 27-12-2006 by zorgon]


reply posted on 27-12-2006 @ 03:59 AM by zorgon
Okay now the next piece of info is the "smoking gun" that The Borg was talking about...

Seems some gremlin got into my computer and sent a few sneak previews out...

One of the questions we have been postulating in the two threads is whether or not NASA is aware of any of this... and has decided that the general public really doesn't need to know. I won't use the word lying, more like just not telling you everything... They may have very good reasons to keep a lid on stuff, time will tell...

The fact is that NASA does know about this little item... this item was sent to me by a friend who remains incognito...{Its really amazing how many little tidbits have been stuffed in my mailbox since this search began}

Here is a screen capture taken from a short video clip from Apollo 17, over Tsiolkovski Crater - Farside



In the video the camera man is focusing on the object as they are passing over head.I have not seen this video around the web circuit (though it may be there are so many sites out there) It is a 4 minute clip... the astronaut talking is giving a narration... but no mention of the object is made... you can hear bits of a second conversation in the background, most likely talking on the other secured channel. Half way through the background speaker make some exclamations of surprise.

So NASA not only knows about these things, but the astronauts filmed them!!

Here is another screen shot...close and personal. It is obvious that it's above the ground because once they focus on it, the crater behind it is out of focus. We have found the same object in a few of the photos in the old Apollo book...{Just bought 4 copies from old book dealers } I will post those clips in a few days.



The updates and collection are available and a link to the video is on my web page.

Smoking Phaser Cannon

Now then how is that for kicking off the new year?

PAWN TAKES KING CHECKMATE!!!

Rematch anyone?


reply posted on 27-12-2006 @ 05:04 AM by TheBorg
Originally posted by zorgon
Here is another screen shot...close and personal. It is obvious that it's above the ground because once they focus on it, the crater behind it is out of focus. We have found the same object in a few of the photos in the old Apollo book...{Just bought 4 copies from old book dealers } I will post those clips in a few days.



The updates and collection are available and a link to the video is on my web page.

Smoking Phaser Cannon

Now then how is that for kicking off the new year?

PAWN TAKES KING CHECKMATE!!!

Rematch anyone?


I dunno about this one here. This pic looks completely blurry on first glance. Even the central white area does. It's abnormally shaped, which gave me immediate pause, but then I just thought it coulda been a building of some kind. Honestly, I dunno what the heck to make of this one. I don't believe it's a craft of any kind. I just think it's some structure, if anything, on the peak in the middle of that crater.

TheBorg


reply posted on 27-12-2006 @ 07:18 AM by Matyas
Originally posted by Zarniwoop Here's a link to the photo I mentioned previously of the anomaly suspended in the background of the Apollo 16 lander.

www.hq.nasa.gov...


Yup, that's it! And Zorgon is in hot pursuit!

Was it posted previously? It gets tiring looking through 63 or so pages...

I think NASA left it up just to see if there is any "intelligent life" out here on the green planet of the clocks.

Well, the intelligent thing to do would be to determine the location is my bet. If we know the exact time that the lander's crew EVAed to snap this photo, then by comparing the shadow of the Sun we would know the orientation of the lander. A size estimate from other photos of the object could determine its distance and from then on it is all trig.
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