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John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

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posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Interesting Development...


Watching CNN news a little while ago and NASA just announced that they are going to build a base on the Moon for launches to Mars....


They've been talking about that for years. Why's that considered newsworthy I wonder?

TheBorg




posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by TheBorg

They've been talking about that for years. Why's that considered newsworthy I wonder?

TheBorg


May have went past the talking stage. I've noticed they don't flap their wings in preparation as much these days. They just say it and off they go.



posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by NJ Mooch
Can you throw us a bone now and then to keep us wondering?


Hmmmm well I have some dinosaur size bones...
but I don't think I can toss them here


I have to really think about that for a few days...



posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 03:35 AM
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Originally posted by Matyas

Originally posted by zorgon...WHO are we aggressing against in Space


Each other buddy. We are fighting ourselves.

It is the optimum answer, it is the most logical answer, it is the simplist answer.


You are actually correct. USAF Aggressor squadrons are regular sqdns that play the role of the enemy (aggressors) during exercises and training.

So I'd wager a space aggressor sqdn, officially, would be people simulating attacks on our satellites or other space bound equipment. Or even simulating attacks on US targets via satellite or other spacebased weapons. And of course, do it for real vs our enemies.



posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by Setec
other spacebased weapons.


Could you please elaborate on these other space based weapons?




posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Setec
other spacebased weapons.


Could you please elaborate on these other space based weapons?



A poor choice of words on my part. But I'd wager we have something like missile launchers up there. Or communication jamming devices. Like the chinese beam that disrupted our satellite, I'd guess we have one going the other way.

I should have known better than to use vague terminology with this crowd



posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Setec
I should have known better than to use vague terminology with this crowd


Well true... but seriously I thought perhaps you might know something...


I mean there was talk when the Koreans were launching those nukes that we were going to blast them with that non existent space laser... but we weren't sure it would work... and when the missiles fizzled into the ocean we didn't have to reveal our hand...

So perhaps I was hoping someone had more info on this...

But then this is the wrong thread for Space War discussion...



posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

...direct from NASA... it shows meteor strikes...
...There will be no comment at this time on this image from me...
...in the meantime I will be hiding at my summer place in the woods....
...This is way to weird to be coincidence...


Hey Zorgon,

Please don't tell us they are going to purposely blast away our newly found moon anomalies...




posted on Dec, 5 2006 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon...well I have some dinosaur size bones...
but I don't think I can toss them here


I have to really think about that for a few days...


I can help here


NOT

Its obvious we are homing pigeons. Don't do it!



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Matyas

I can help here

NOT
Its obvious we are homing pigeons. Don't do it!


Homing pigeons?


Are you sure its not this?




:shk:


Okay so recent developments have changed the picture drastically. It is really interesting that ATS has been down off and on for reconstuction... Pure coincidence I am sure... LOL But it has been giving me time to catch up on stuff...


So If its a pawn.... so be it! Even a pawn can take out a King... always loved chess. Besides I have an army with sharp pointy things to cover my back...




Sue Manteris, Governor Kenny Guinn, Bjarki the Black, Nate Tannenbaum

The Governor of Nevada was just knighted by us... right and left are Channel 3 news people Bjarki is my personal body gaurd
6'3" special forces security

We have had most of the polititians in Nevada under our sword LOL

No more kids gloves... time to get serious... even if I can only show 10% of what we have


[edit on 8-12-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 01:54 PM
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About page 23-24 of this thread when John first introduced the Lick Observatory pictures he discussed anomalies around Endymion Crater amongst other things.

We are going to return to those images for a little while...

Before I begin...

When I first came into this thread my life was normal well LOL for me anyway...

Once I really understood what I was seeing I started serious research into the possibilties. What started out as a fun search for possible truth has led me to some very interesting sources and as those in the background who have written me know, some very serious connections.

As Matyas pointed out... caution is the word... I will leave it at that for now... I am sure you know what I mean...

However as a result of certain circumstances over the past few days it is possible to bring out some of "the good stuff"

I should also point out to those who have not caught on yet... that as a result of my work on this thread and subsequent emails, John realized I was also in Las Vegas.

Some time ago we have met and become good friends and I have seen his wall of fame. Believe me when I say its for real


At this time John is still not posting... thats an internal issue that's not up to me to discuss, however he still reads this thread and others... so has temporarily joined the ranks of the silent majority... (look at the stats over 75,000 views...that is some silent majority in my books)



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 02:19 PM
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Okay down to business




January 1946
The picture above has very odd looking black lines in the lower right part of the crater, and the upper square shows black out as well. These black lines do not appear in other lower resolution images. Though the area is blacked out, there still appears the trace of a structure just within the crater. And behind the black lines you can see some bright object that has been obscured. This is a crop from Lick 001 11:00 position...




January 1946
The picture above shows the same area. On the full photo you can see the "cloud bank" that is covering the area. Though it does not cover Endymion, there is still "cloud" showing around the perimeter of the crater... and in the two boxes where the dark areas are in the other clipping, the "cloud" forms columns.

Endymion Crater has long been the focus of anomaly researchers and John Lear was pointing out this area earlier in the thread.

Dec 17th 2005
Below is a clip from a photo taken with a 10" Telescope by Mike's Astro Imaging in the UK. Pegasus has secured the rights to use that photo and it is copyrighted with all rights reserved!! As are all thes clips we have created from that image.



If you look at the image above there are several really interesting objects that stand out. On the bottom right area that is obscured by cloud in Lick 2 and black marks in Lick 1 you can clearly see the tower and the dish antenna. (See below for details). The upper left of the crater, which is also obscured in the lick photos shows three large round structures. There is another one in the crater just below the three. The coloring of the objects is a brownish tint in contrast to the bluish green tint of the surrounding rock.




To the center and above (behind) the crater you can see several interesting bridge and tower like structures. Most peculiar is the crater floor!! Look at the smooth featureless texture and note the two sides that you can see of the floor. The lines above show the part I am referring to.

Now then here is the kicker!!! The Lick Observatory photos we have are some of the best moon images around, taken with a 36" telescope. Yet Mike's 10" scope shows us this detail.

NOTE:
A call to the Director of My Palomar 200" telescope told us as far as he knew there are no pictures of the moon taken by any of their large scopes...

The IKONOS Satellite took one image, not great resolution, of the moon and they state on their website that they will not be imaging the moon...This is significant because of the resolution capability of the satellite. I have posted this before but here is a link for relevancy...

IKONOS Sample


Below is a clip of Endymion Crater taken by the Clementine Satellite...



Mar 1998
The image above is a clipping from the Clementine full color high res 64 meg mosaic image showing Endymion crater. Notice the texture of the interior of the crater and the total lack of walls or crater slopes. Zoom in on the edges of the texture and you will see what we mean. There is absolutely no sign of any of the objects shown in the 2005 Mike's Astro Imaging photo. The only thing showing anomaly on this image is the area we labeled walls.

John has been studying this image and though this crater is in the right position to be Endymion... the surrounding area does not match previous images of the area. We will explore this in detail later.

The clip is a from a full color 64 meg version of the picture on the front of the Clementine website...



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Continued next post...

[edit on 8-12-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 02:30 PM
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Warning, the following make disturb your view of science. But rest assured it will be only a momentary shock, after which you will return to pretending nothing is amiss.



Aristarchus Crater has long been the source of much debate and speculation. There are mission logs of the Apollo 11 team discussing this area as they fly over it...

Today you will see it in all its glory...



The image above is taken from LO-001. As you can see the area is devoid of any gray pixels, leaving a totally white splotch. Below is the same area on LO-002. Again we see the totally white splotch. You will find this in all of the lesser quality full moon images on the web.



The image below is taken by a totally independent source in the UK...



The picture above is Aristarchus Crater clipped from an image taken by Mike's Astro Imagery in the UK. Pegasus has secured the rights to use this image and it is copyrighted all rights reserved! This image was taken with a 10" Telescope!! [If you wish details of the recording equipment used just u2u me...]

PS. John asked me to mention that he oriented Mikes photo so that we are looking from west to east. In the Clementine photo north is at the top.

Compare this image to the high res color image from the Clementine Satellite below. Here we have two separate sources showing what Aristarchus crater really looks like.



Merry Christmas from the Moon!!!


[edit on 8-12-2006 by zorgon]

[edit on 8-12-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 02:43 PM
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LOL I can here it now...


"There never were any high resolution color images from Clementine!!!!"


Well ummm no you would be wrong...





The above picture as you can see matches the black and white image on the Clementine website. You can see the blue gem very clearly even in this reduced version. The full image is 25 megabytes and there are two separate images one Nearside and one Farside that are 64 megabytes. What you are seeing is the whole moon front and back!!



There are also 2 gigabyte versions available... unfortunately they all show the same edited out parts.


The answer to your next question is NO!

:shk:



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 03:32 PM
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And while the science buffs run out to find that yes indeedy, Aristarchus crater is a blue glowie, we wait and wait and wait. *hears the gears turning in the backdrop*

[edit on 8-12-2006 by undo]



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 04:59 PM
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You have voted zorgon for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.


Zorgon, keep up this great work and you might just get another... I'm not affraid to use it.





posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 08:44 PM
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Just reading a couple insiders news reports while waiting for reactions...

Air Force Space Command News


WAY POINT: MANHATTAN

12/7/2006 - NEW YORK CITY – Gen. Kevin Chilton, commander of Air Force Space Command, passes a handheld Global Positioning System receiver to FOX & Friends co-host Steve Doocy during an interview with Mr. Doocy and co-host Gretchen Carlson. General Chilton appeared on cable television’s number-one rated morning news program Dec. 5, and discussed the crucial role of space in the Global War on Terror, the importance of space situational awareness and the commercial uses of space-based assets, including GPS. (Photo by Capt Johnny Rea)

Source



NASA Space Weather News...

In other news the Sun had a HUGE Solar flare on the 6th of December...







SOLAR TSUNAMI: When sunspot 930 exploded on Dec. 6th, producing an X6-category flare, it also created a tsunami-like shock wave that rolled across the face of the sun, wiping out filaments and other structures in its path. A telescope in New Mexico operated by the National Solar Observatory recorded a must-see movie of the wave, featured today on
spaceweather.com....





The universe shall unfold is it will....



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 09:27 PM
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Wow Zorgon. Impressive!

My instinctive reaction is icewater. What do you think?

Whatever is said, that ain't moonrock.


Edit: wikipedia>

"The crater was determined to have especially rich concentrations of ilmenite, a titanium oxide mineral that could potentially be used in the future by a lunar settlement for extracting oxygen."

[edit on 8/12/06 by SteveR]



posted on Dec, 8 2006 @ 10:28 PM
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K, I see everyone is going ahead with this. Don't say I didn't warn about reprisals and sabotage...

While this is going down, I would like to put in my demand to the deep pockets out there to help us design, build, and launch on expedition an electrogravitic spacecraft, maybe to seat four to six. And just a few more conventional ones for support.

There, now the ball is in your court!



posted on Dec, 9 2006 @ 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon


The image below is taken by a totally independent source in the UK...






Nice images, if real I am wondering if it could have been a "space diamond" or something similar, the moon has been hit by just about everything else.

Space diamonds have been found...




The newly discovered cosmic diamond is a chunk of crystallized carbon 50 light-years from the Earth in the constellation Centaurus. (A light-year is the distance light travels in a year, or about 6 trillion miles.) It is 2,500 miles across and weighs 5 million trillion trillion pounds, which translates to approximately 10 billion trillion trillion carats, or a one followed by 34 zeros.

"It's the mother of all diamonds!" says Metcalfe. "Some people refer to it as 'Lucy' in a tribute to the Beatles song 'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds.'"

The diamond star completely outclasses the largest diamond on Earth, the 530-carat Star of Africa which resides in the Crown Jewels of England. The Star of Africa was cut from the largest diamond ever found on Earth, a 3,100-carat gem.

The huge cosmic gem (technically known as BPM 37093) is actually a crystallized white dwarf. A white dwarf is the hot core of a star, left over after the star uses up its nuclear fuel and dies. It is made mostly of carbon and is coated by a thin layer of hydrogen and helium gases.

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