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John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

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posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Orion437




Hello Mr. Lear, greetings from Argentina.

This is a very interesting thread . I dont see a lot (most) of the suppossed artifacts in the pics, but some of them look very interesting. The "Machine & Smoke" at the left of the Top Ridge AB in the Copernicus1_labeled looks incredible. Have you shown this particular "artifact" to some scientist or astronomer? I guess there is no way that it can be a rock, some shadows, or anything like that. Its cleary some type of instalation or facility, its like a rectangular box, hiper cleary. Its an amazing find indeed.

I wonder if you have noticed this and what do you think of it.

Im sorry for my english.
Thank you in advance



Thanks Oriion437, thanks to Zorgon, Zaniwoop, JohnnyAnonymous and many others we have found some interesting sites in Copernicus. No sense in showing to any scientist or astronomer, it is here on ATS for any who are interested. As far as the story of atmosphere on the moon I am sure there is one. Not as thick as earth but breathable for a little while. And its thicker in different places on the moon. The picture in the story about atmosphere on the moon appears to be a picture of a sunet on earth with a trail of a missle or an unusual cloud on the left. I don't see, and the story doesn't say, how that picture relates to an atmosphere on the moon.

I believe there are hundreds of mining and manufacturing sites just like Copernicus all over the moon.




posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by LazarusTheLong



That sounds like an invitation.
Mr Lear, I (and many others, i am sure) would love to know more of your personal experience and abilities in this area.

thank you
laz



Whoops. I didn't mean I could teach it real quick I mean I learned it real quick.

About 10 years ago I read, "Mind Trek" by Joe McMoneagle, one of the military's remote viewers at Ft. Meade. I was fascinated. I mentioned that I was interested in studying RV to a Lockheed Scientist friend of mine who was visiting me. He told me that one of the world's foremost RV'ers and instructors lived a few blocks from my house. I said great who is it? He said its Angela Smith Thompson.

Then he told me, "Unfortunately she came to your door a few years ago and you blew her off." Well that’s the story of my life. Opportunity knocks at my door and I slam it shut.

Well anyway I called Angela and it turned out that she was starting a full week’s course the next month. I scheduled some time off from my airline and attended the course.

After a couple of days of training with about 8 others she put different full color National Geographic pictures in a manila envelope and gave one to each of us. On top of the envelope she placed a blank sheet of paper and said “Draw whats in the envelope”. I didn’t feel like I knew what the heck I was doing but I started drawing and after a few minutes she told us to stop. She came over to me and said, “Let’s see how you are doing.” I pulled the picture from the envelope and placed it side by side with my drawing. It didn’t look like I did very well. She then took my paper and turned it sideways and the drawing I drew was identical to the drawing in the envelope. It was a picture of a church on a hillside.

It was shocking to me because I am not the least bit psychic and I can’t tell when the doorbell or telephone is going to ring. But there was that church on the hillside.

We continued the class and one of the exercises was that each class member in turn would ‘task’, or suggest a place for the other members to travel. When it came my turn I suggested Venus. I gave the class no information of any kind about what I thought was on Venus. We went into “cool down” for about 15 minutes, where you empty your mind. Then we went to Venus. After about 15 minutes everyone came back and went into another “cool down”. After the ‘cool down’ all the members of the class said essentially the same thing, “Beautiful”, “fantastic”, “I never realized it was like that, its beautiful”, “green, like South Africa”. One saw and drew a marina on a yellow sea.

Anyway I finished the class and went back to flying. I wish I had more time to study because there are a few more places I’d like to go.



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by violet



I saw this just last night, the word Stargate, when I went to look up a remote viewing manual. That looks very hard to learn btw. I didnt read enough to grasp the concept. But presumably, you need the coordinates of a location, to tap into the signals? I suppose there is logic in this, being that everything gets sent out to space, like sound waves etc, and is "recorded".



Violet you don't necessarily need coordinates and there are no 'signals' to tap into. That is one way of tasking, CRV, coordinate remote viewing. But this is not the only way to remote view. And you don't need to be tasked. That is just another way to do it. You can learn how to do it yourself. Don't think this is complicated, its not. Even I could do it and I mean real quick.



Thanks John

I thought that online manual looked far too complicated ! I had a psychic book I bought for fun once, and there was a quick lesson how to do it in that. I think it required having a photo. There was no mention of coordinates or picking up signals. Just going there in your mind, I think. I gave it a quick try, unsuccessfully, but didn't try again. I tried some other things in the book, that I was able to do with ease, which surprised me.. I'll have to find my book now !



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by johnlear
Thanks Oriion437, thanks to Zorgon, Zaniwoop, JohnnyAnonymous and many others we have found some interesting sites in Copernicus. No sense in showing to any scientist or astronomer, it is here on ATS for any who are interested. As far as the story of atmosphere on the moon I am sure there is one. Not as thick as earth but breathable for a little while. And its thicker in different places on the moon. The picture in the story about atmosphere on the moon appears to be a picture of a sunet on earth with a trail of a missle or an unusual cloud on the left. I don't see, and the story doesn't say, how that picture relates to an atmosphere on the moon.

I believe there are hundreds of mining and manufacturing sites just like Copernicus all over the moon.


Again, I implore you to show me any evidence whatsoever of an atmosphere dense enough to breathe existing on the Moon. Even if the atmosphere on the Moon was dense enough, who's to say that there would be Oxygen, of all elements, in the "air" there?

Please forgive my thick head on this, as I'm trying to wrap it around the concept of a breathable atmosphere existing on the Moon. It's just so unbelievable, since I've stared at the Moon for long hours, and never once in my life seen any signs of anything resembling an atmosphere, let alone an Oxygen-rich one.

TheBorg



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by TheBorg




Again, I implore you to show me any evidence whatsoever of an atmosphere dense enough to breathe existing on the Moon. Even if the atmosphere on the Moon was dense enough, who's to say that there would be Oxygen, of all elements, in the "air" there?

Please forgive my thick head on this, as I'm trying to wrap it around the concept of a breathable atmosphere existing on the Moon. It's just so unbelievable, since I've stared at the Moon for long hours, and never once in my life seen any signs of anything resembling an atmosphere, let alone an Oxygen-rich one.

TheBorg


Relax, theBorg,

There is no evidence, here on earth, (at least accessable to you and I) that there is an atmosphere on the moon. Its a secret. I am not supposed to know this and neither are you.

Its highly unlikely that you or I are going to stand on the surface of the moon in our lifetime and breathe that clear, fresh moon air.

So lean back in your chair, take a deep breath, and ponder, "I wonder what else I don't know?"



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by johnlear Its highly unlikely that you or I are going to stand on the surface of the moon in our lifetime and breathe that clear, fresh moon air.


Hmm. I always wondered what all the fuss was about decon for the astronauts when the Moon was supposed to be a lifeless barren rock exposed to extreme radiation and frigid space temperatures.

Heavy ionization by intense solar radiation could conceivably hold down an atmosphere, albeit a thin one. It makes sense as the Moon sweeps through space for millions of years that it would pick up the most common ingredient in the universe, that being water, and under the intense solar radiation convert it into oxygen, ozone, and hydrogen, with a few trace elements mixed into the gasses. Other moons have atmospheres, the most obvious being Titan. But we know Titan is much larger and there is no hiding the clouds.

Yep, it is not that hard for me to grok.



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 07:13 AM
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Not quite asleep at the wheel, but was just about to call it a nite while searching around Cop-1 photo and on the fifth scan-strip down and to the right I saw something that caught my eye. I decided to use my zoom program to investigate it and found a few curious areas that didn't seem to fit within the normal moon-scape. After a bit of advance pixel calculations I was able to get a pretty good rendering of what looks like an IceCream Sandwich shaped object with what almost appears to have a dual turret towards the end of this structure/object. In front of it there is a series of pipes (or debris) that leads to a 'bunker-like' entrance. This bunker entrance area has a 45* degree angled front which does not conform again with a normal geological object one would expect to be in a crater. There may also be another structure to the right of it which is of some length, but as I grow more tired I decided on passing with trying to colorizing it (but it's still visible.

If you look further down below (and a bit to the left) there is a large series of pipes that surround what appears to be a venting area. To the upper mid right to the vent there is another mechanical object sitting on a ridge.

Out of all of these curiousities, the IceCream Sandwich object is quite unique and makes you really scratch your head as it really doesn't seem to be of any geological design that i can think of. The unusual shine running along side and ending towards the front of the object is just to strange to be simply the reflection of the sun on a large boulder. Also not to many boulders I know of have to identical spires that would jet off of it that are identical in size, shape and length. Mathematically the odds on that occuring are astronomical.

Of course this is as I always say, this is probably nothing close to what they actually are, but they are still there and it's curious that they are.









posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 09:41 AM
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Is anyone else noticing some places that look like they have been "fixed" on the negative...

In other words... in an area that looks like it should have some detail from the light angle, it is just a kind of mushy swirly gray smudgy area?

It has been some days since my darkroom development experience, but i do remember a very basic way to "paint" on the negative, where it smudges and dulls an image with q-tips and chemicals.

We used it to fix development errors.

Could these images have that tecnique applied, to smudge out any revealing structures...
Besides the obvious development errors that look obvious...

that would in turn. leave us with only the barest scattering of leftovers that weren't caught by the original "image editors"

the reason i say this, is that looking at the "BIG" picture, it seems obvious that this area is much rougher, than the foreground, and the background.
And it really does look like a quarry operation, sans the office complex, and barracks
and the only things we are really seeing are the smaller parts of an operation like this...

and of course, the massive discard piles, and many much smaller ones.

One of these "gray smudges" is an anomolous flattened blob in a large flat area next to a large turn on the uphill road.
looks to me like a headquarters sized blob (perhaps a greenhouse or other surface required structure)
Sorry, I suck at posting external pictures... maybe we could post a pic with a quadrant map... for reference...



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by LazarusTheLong




Is anyone else noticing some places that look like they have been "fixed" on the negative...



Copernicus 5 (LOV-155) has definately 'fixed' or airbrushed. Look at the stark white strip where the 'keep' and 'grade' should be.

I am still wondering about LO2-162. I see areas that should be clear but aren't. I see dark angular shadows that shouldn't be there. I see fuzzy places and blurred places.

Because they missed so many obvious artifacts in 162 like buildings, vapor, smoke, dust, cranes, junk piles etc I assumed that either 162 was not airbrushed or all of those items were overlooked.

Consider that in 1967 when all of this airbrusing was going on NASA wouldn't have been able to conceive that in 35 or 40 years everyone would have a laptop and image programs that would be examining their negatives of the moon down to the square foot. Otherwise they would have digitized and decreased the resolution. Unfortunately I don't think the concept of digitilization was around then and if it was they didn't consider the possibility.



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
"I was able to get a pretty good rendering of what looks like an IceCream Sandwich shaped object"


That is one of the most interesting objects found, in my opinion. It's actually what got me started on my own hunt. It definitely appears to have manufactured, streamlined edges. Where on Earth would you find a naturally occurring object like that? It was previous found earlier and called "The Bus," I believe.



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 02:12 PM
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Oops...

[edit on 19-10-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear

There is no evidence, here on earth, (at least accessable to you and I) that there is an atmosphere on the moon. Its a secret. I am not supposed to know this and neither are you.

Its highly unlikely that you or I are going to stand on the surface of the moon in our lifetime and breathe that clear, fresh moon air.

So lean back in your chair, take a deep breath, and ponder, "I wonder what else I don't know?"



Well it seems the Russians know about that atmosphere...
I was just sent an article on that. I sent it to you John... When we have had a chance to look it over I will post it...



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
Sorry, I suck at posting external pictures... maybe we could post a pic with a quadrant map... for reference...



Arggggg I am working on that as fast as I can.....


Maybe this weekend I DO have a life you know... well TRYING to


Supposedly #1-4 is untouched... it is possible that the image gurus used their swabs... Never worried about the little things because they never expected that A) we would ever get the big picture or B) that we would all have home computers with image tech rivaling theirs


#5 is retouched the area where the "grade" SHOULD be is a white strip with no detail whatsoever


Does no one wonder why all those Apollo 11 films and photos disappeared? I have heasrd many here at ATS say "Well I can understand it things get lost in transit all the time..."

Sure a box or two... BUT the films were on 70 MM film... Does any one here know how big of a film can a 70 mm film goes in to? They laost them all all 1500 of the films.... Please people someone do the math... and all the stills that went with it...

My estimate is about 3 trucks worth at least all "lost" all with no backup....

But hey its okay.... we all know how incompetant NASA is it could happen easily..

:shk:


LOL seems I missed that John had already said that...


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posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 03:04 PM
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I found these images in the Boneyard area and had to post them. One looks like an astronaut rock climbing. The other, well...

northstar-autoparts.com...



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 03:07 PM
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The missing Apollo films...
I thought they found those...
apparently, the hippies had them...

damn stoners... always forgetting to return things...
Pink floyd had original apollo films...

actually, they just had a small portion... probably used the rest to roll a ....nevermind...

but it did set investigators off on some hot leads to find the rest...



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by papajake

Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
"I was able to get a pretty good rendering of what looks like an IceCream Sandwich shaped object"


That is one of the most interesting objects found, in my opinion. It's actually what got me started on my own hunt. It definitely appears to have manufactured, streamlined edges. Where on Earth would you find a naturally occurring object like that? It was previous found earlier and called "The Bus," I believe.


Ahhh.. figures that I missed a page/photograph of it already being found...

And here I thought I was on a roll....LOL.. Guess I was more tired than I thought...

Appreciate you bringing that to my attention, were the other areas also found?



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous

Ahhh.. figures that I missed a page/photograph of it already being found...


Don't worry about it. I've only repeated found items about 14 times.


were the other areas also found?


Yes. Zorgon has compiled an excellent website containing the items found to date. Check it out:

landoflegends.us...



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by papajake
I found these images in the Boneyard area and had to post them. One looks like an astronaut rock climbing. The other, well...



Cute
That will earn you a brownie point...

But seriously folkes...

Don't look at the "face" and compare this one ....



with this one in C#1



NOTICE TO ALL

I am going to work on the catalog and that means some of the images in the old posts may vanish... don't worry... it is NOT the MIB sensoring them [not yet anyway
] They are just being rearranged into an NGO




[New Grid Order
] I am sure ATS will appreciate the bandwidth saved on old posts no one ever reads anyway



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 10:18 PM
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Trees on the Moon, clouds, three mile thick atmosphere, meteor trails, all (well almost, a good college try at best) airbrushed out for your tax dollar enjoyment.

www.holloworbs.com...



posted on Oct, 19 2006 @ 11:48 PM
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This is a Moon shot of the Messier craters (taken by Apollo). a pair of unusual formations in northwestern Mare Fecunditatis.

Does look suspicious. A natural formation that's too symetrical. But of course, they're just a pair of unusual craters, aren't they?

Or could it be something else??



AS15-2405 (M)

[edit on 20-10-2006 by mikesingh]



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