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reply posted on 4-11-2007 @ 12:43 PM by horsegiver
reply to post by zorgon



Greetings Zorgon,
Thank you for your kind words, I was particularly pleased to see the boring machine, and your comment about an awareness of Scale, it was important to me to explain the many flat topped mounds that occur on the Moon, they are entirely consistent with the humble molehills in my field, only much larger.
ps, rules do not permit my using u2u at present
Regards,
Horsegiver.


reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 02:31 PM by Orion437
Originally posted by zorgon


Interestingly I am having trouble finding those images at any of the main sources..

So why are they not in any of the main public catalogs?



Hello again Zorgon.

They can be found on the LPI website:

www.lpi.usra.edu...

They are AS10-28-3990 / 3989 / 3990.

The interesting thing is that, as you can see, those three images are smaller and totally lacking of detail, compared to this one:

www.keithlaney.net...

But i can´t find the source of this bigger and much more detailed image in Keithlaney site.

Sorry for my english.

Edit: I just found a couple of threads of interest about this, one in german. Both are relatively new.

www.meinews.net...

And in the german thread, there is this image (different from the Keithlaney site)

161.115.184.211...

What do you think?

[edit on 5-11-2007 by Orion437]


reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 06:51 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by Orion437
Hello again Zorgon.
They can be found on the LPI website:


I know that I paid attention to your last post but LPI galleries are useless for anything other than a catalog


What do you think?



Ach Du Lieber!!!

What do I think? You get the hero Cookie
You realize that the directory that high res image links to contains only three images? And they won't be there long.

I have found other images in there before and they are gone (I never did D/L all the previous ones... )

These three images were added on Friday, November 02, 2007 7:06 PM I am surprised they were found and linked on a German site.

They are the ONLY images currently in this directory at
161.115.184.211... which leads nowhere.
We had previously found this directory many months ago but it had different images now gone. I believe this to be a 'working' directory for NASA GRIN

A 'Who Is" search yields this result
161.115.184.211 Record Type: IP Address
OrgName: Lynchburg College OrgID: LYNCHB
Address: 1501 Lakeside Drive City, Lynchburg , VA. 24501, USA

The original High Resolution Jpgs that the above clips were taken from can be found here.... If they are gone we can link them ourselves as I saved them

AS10-20-3988

AS10-20-3989

AS10-20-3990

Here is your "Hero Cookie"



You need an Avatar... I found two that are cool

Now then

"The Torn Fabric of Space"

Well at least this time they cannot say "fuzzy picture"








In the LPI images it looks like a white patch but a close up shows us a lot of detail..

So what is it? I know you posted a list
. Camera glitch / dust?
. Image Artifact?
. Missing part of a Apollo / other know craft / satellite (floating / orbiting ?) ?
. Other?


I will go with OTHER

Now if you believe they never went up there, this is a perfect example of proof for that theory... what you are looking at is the projection screen with a rip in it....

That would be from THIS screen at Langley



You could say this was a rip in the paper before they scanned it to digital...

If that is the case the person who did this was a total moron for not catching it and a magician as it has the same rip in three images... now how does that happen? Also look at the thickness of the ripped portion... looks like very thick paper.

Also the lighting on it is interesting. It blends into the photo so its not a piece loose on the scanner... this is actually on the image...

So what is it?

Well its obviously a tear in the space time fabric that appears the same in three sequential shots...



In any case Marvelous find



[edit on 5-11-2007 by zorgon]



reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 06:59 PM by totalvigilance
reply to post by zorgon



Zorgon, please source the apparent tear image from a site other than The Living Moon.

-tv


reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 07:02 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by zorgon



There were more photos on that computer at Lynchburg College, as can be seen on this thread, but they were take out today, and probably only Kipp Teague can say why.


reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 07:08 PM by totalvigilance
reply to post by ArMaP



Alright, I was going to give zorgon a rare benefit of a doubt that these photos were unaltered from NASA source photos, but screw that. I'm calling hoax. The rip looks like obvious CGI and the fact that they were from some computer in Lynchburg seems to me another dead giveaway that they are not authentic.
Now, if anyone CAN find this photo from an official source, I will humbly recant.
But I doubt you guys can do that.


reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 07:11 PM by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by totalvigilance



Did you even read his presentation? If not, do that really quick...it will explain the irrelevance of your request.


reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 03:42 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by totalvigilance
Alright, I was going to give zorgon a rare benefit of a doubt that these photos were unaltered from NASA source photos, but screw that. I'm calling hoax. The rip looks like obvious CGI and the fact that they were from some computer in Lynchburg seems to me another dead giveaway that they are not authentic.
Now, if anyone CAN find this photo from an official source, I will humbly recant.
But I doubt you guys can do that.




I have been here for over a year... and I just have to say... this is probably about the stupidest comment I have ever seen...

You obviously missed the Lunar and Planetary source that Orion originally linked to...
www.lpi.usra.edu...

You obviously missed the fact that Kipp Teague maintains NASA's Apollo Archives

www.apolloarchive.com...

The Archive was created by Kipp Teague in February 1999 as a companion web site to his "Contact Light" personal retrospective on Project Apollo. The Archive is also companion to Eric Jones' comprehensive Apollo Lunar Surface Journal.

www.hq.nasa.gov...

And just what is wrong with the Living Moon site? How else do you suppose we can post the clips? You DO know that it is good etiquette on the internet to host an image so you don't waste bandwidth by direct linking?

I would humbly suggest a name change your "Vigilance" is far from "Total"


reply posted on 7-11-2007 @ 09:36 PM by s_barrett
I hate to stray from this topic, but check out the picture of Jupiter's moon at www.solarviews.com... .
I'm seeing some interesting shapes near the edge at the 4 & 9 o'clock positions. Looks like another of Rick H.'s titainium vents at 9 o'clock.
It's no wonder people are driven to drink, with some of these hidden truths being revealed.
It's a moon with anomolies, so figure I would wedge it into this thread.


reply posted on 8-11-2007 @ 12:28 AM by zorgon
reply to post by Terrapop




Thanks Terrapop Spacemax linke that a couple pages back and we have been tracking the Japanese project here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

There was a thread on the Chinese Mission too but it was moved to below top secret so I don't have that thread handy
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