Originally posted by Essedarius
Feel free to tear up my assumptions and answer my questions.
I may be wrong…I really may…but logistically, it doesn't work for me.
Help me out.
Anybody.

Very good points Well thought out... I may have a possible answer to the last one, but it will take some time to put the "evidence" together. I will come back to this though... because I have had similar questions. But they do happen to coincide with work we are researching at the Pegasus Group.

It might have to go to a new thread though... as I know it will go off topic

I'll second that second. Zorgon, thank you for correlating features between the two image sets. YOu've done a lot of work and it will take me some time to look at all of your markers. I'll take a look at them and give you my honest impressions. Thanks again.

[edit on 29-9-2006 by Ectoterrestrial]

Great work Zorgon! Thanks for throwing a few of mine up there aswell

Originally posted by Essedarius
I’m still really enjoying this thread.
I still don’t really see anything.

I am glad that you are. Perhaps one item of all the hundred little ones you will see something.

My opinion of what’s going on is illustrated perfectly by Zorgon’s “butler” photo…and I must give Zorgon a lot of love for feeding “the bad guys” such a tasty morsel.

Your welcome. Don't forget I wasn't convinced at the start either. But after finding things myself I am convinced. The problem is the real curious are very tiny. As to the "butler" and others {all the animal shadows my daughter sees} these are all found on #5 and these shadow are black as opposed to shaded, If I didn't know better I wouls say some NASA dude was being smart ass with the editor.

But I point them out to eliminate them... and use them as land marks. LOL I have found enough stuff to write a book and actually make a buck. To bad I don't write... any ghost writers out there?

So here’s a little quid pro quo…

I, Essedarius, do hereby (for a minute) concede that there is a massive strip mining operation occurring on the moon involving cranes and vapor and parking structures.

Very magnanimous of you. Maybe hope for you yet

Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way, I’m faced with a whole new landscape of questions, based on the following assumptions:

To be continued

Originally posted by Essedarius
1)
The mining operation is run by humans from earth. (If aliens are running things up there then these questions are obviously pointless.)

I agree with that, and I believe so does John... {with possibly Alien assistance}

2)
The humans hail from a single country (that is to say, it is not a multinational effort…call me a skeptic, but China, Japan, Britain, the U.S. cooperating on something like this and keeping it absolutely secret? Nope.)

I agree with this as well except for one other country that I notice you did not mention. Russia. I am convinced they are part of this... I believe they have been "allies" behind the scene since 1947... even Hollywood has captured this "Foe for public, Friends behind closed doors" attitude. One good case point is that Bigelow Aerospace of Vegas went to Russia to lauch his private space hotel module when NASA said "no way will we do it"

Don't forget who took those dark side of the moon shots... and look at recent STS/ISS missions... I hear as much Russian on NASA TV as American...

And Pizza Hut, Radio Shack and Lego are advertising on Russian space vehicles, funding their program...


To be continued...

[edit on 29-9-2006 by zorgon]

Originally posted by Essedarius

3)
The humans are mining Helium-3 as an energy alternative for use here on earth. (I know there are other valuable resources up there but, I think we can agree, none more so than He3.)

"The humans..." LOL sounds like you be "other"...

I suppose you could be right about HE3, but as you say there is a lot on minerals out there. Its only the question of economics holding us back. There is also a possibility of something else more important, but so far I only have hints from various sources and nothing concrete yet. If that IS true it would explain everything... I will keep you posted but that knowledge is treading on MIB turf...

But if you were a Stargate fan... the term Naquada comes to mind...

Originally posted by Essedarius

So here’s what I don’t get (and there may be perfectly good answers here...I just don’t have the knowledge to come up with them):


1)
Once the initial MASSIVE expenditure is made to establish mining operations (and I default to the word “massive” only because I can’t think of a single word that would do the monetary amount justice), almost 15,000 tons of regolith (lunar soil) has to be warmed up to about 1500 degrees (F) in order to produce 1 ton of He3. Does an operation like this really make economic sense?

For those Joining... we are talking the Lunar Mine is a Given...

From a "what we know" standpoint, no it does not make sense. However to make an evaluation on the economic sense would mean we would need full knowledge of...
A} What technology are they using?
B} What EXACTLY are they mining for?
C} Who are they selling to?
D} What is there actual profit margin?

Unfortunately until we find a disgruntled accountant willing to leak some books, we will have to wait. Afterall we just decide it IS a mine... give us a little time to work out how and why...

to be continued... #2 is a killer...

Gotta figure out how much to tell LOL

NOTE I hereby officially announce all copyrights, book rights and movie rights belong to me and John Lear

Originally posted by zorgon

NOTE I hereby officially announce all copyrights, book rights and movie rights belong to me and John Lear

Does anybody know who this guy Zorgon is?

Zorgon:

Thought you may want to highlight these things from cop-1:

1) The slurry dam (the second one in use, the third is being "readied")
2) The run-offs from the slurry dam
3) The relief valve at the bottom of the slurry dam wall
4) The two hovercrafts above the slurry dam - to the left (they have domes at the top of them with dark points (the domes are 6-8' in diameter - probably a navigation/radar system I assume). The hovercrafts are 20'-25' in length and when parked their noses point down. You can clearly see the cowling for one of the hovercrafts, however the closest hovercraft has had it's cowling covered by a "blast" of an air-brush. In many cases, you can see where "people" have embarked from the hovercrafts and have left footprints.
5) The hovercraft tracks everywhere and the loops that go around landmarks and up/down hills etc
6) The circular ventilation shaft, complete with a metal grid and hovercraft tracks around it
7) The ramp that is used as a bridge over one of the slurry dump run-offs and is used for for the hovercrafts and is in front of one of the cranes (the bucket excavator I pointed out earlier). You can see that the dimensions of the bucket excavator as posted earlier (the NASA one) and the dimensions of the hovercraft are proportional.
8) A large bridge of sorts that also stretches over a crevasse (the bridge has a question mark on top of it - prob. NASA wondering what type of bridge it is as it is "different" - and is made of a vertical box metal type structure with large holes in the vertical box sections...the bridge is to the bottom left of the hovercrafts
9) A few other "things"

Cop-1 has been touched up only very slightly. The slurry dump has a dark "spot" touch-up at the top front of the wall. If you look closely, you can even see the reflection in the slurry dump too

Yes, the dust comes from the hovercrafts and, as stated before, it's not so much a car-park but a hovercraft-park

Cheers

JS

Zorgon, your conspiracy theory makes a deal of sense. As fossil fuels are running dry, there has been a rush to secure earths resources over the last few years. They'll run the earth dry as is planned knowing they have this whole other thing going on "off-world". They are claiming first dibs on it and getting infrastructures in place for the following reasons....

To ensure power is maintained when the earth runs dry.

To filter new technologies down to achieve same purpose whilst other countries lose ground in the power race because the Earth is dry. Only those invited to the party have power. It actually could be a tightening of the noose and complete opposite of disclosure.

They can adapt our realities however they want. They will explain away the sudden advancements, subtly introduce groundbreaking technologies to suit themselves to allow public perception to fit with their explanations to hide whats really happening.


Maybe.

Originally posted by zorgon
It was try again I just checked now and the link works.. Maybe if more than one are d/ling at the same time? If you can't get it I can post it on my net for a few days

I esspecially want you to look under the crane... because that spot bothers me a lot

Hmmm. It still comes up with the dead X. All the other Full's work fine. I would really appreciate it if you could post it on your site for a short period so I can view.

Here's the slurry dump...sorry about the qquality but you'll get the jist:



I'll post the other things if you can't find them.

Cheers

JS