Originally posted by 2PacSade

Ditto Thanx John-

In your opinion are there stars in the background of these shots as someone posted previous?

I never thought about looking for stars because its so difficult.

I am hoping that someone at ATS can look at these dots and give us an informed opinion.

Amazing photos. Thanks John, Bob lol, and whoever else got these posted! It gives you a good idea of the area.. as if you were standing there. Now, lets get the pictures with those craft

Originally posted by 2PacSade
Where are the little "cross hairs" that are normally on lunar photographs? ( Excuse my ignorance but I don't remember the technical name for them. )

Nevermind- I see them once I zoomed in. . .

I am going to wait for a while to tell you the specific area I think was retouched so that I don't 'front load' the information.

Hi John.

What am i supposed to be looking for, yes they are lovely pictures, but what are we supposed to look for?

Where's the retouch.

As I mentioned most of these photos have been retouched. Through some quirk of fate I not only received on that wasn't retouched but received the actual negative.

But you say the ones you recieved, and scanned here, have not been retouched??

That is why Neil Armstrongs story about the 'boulders' and how 'surprised' they were to come upon a field of 'boulders' which they had to 'overfly' is not very believable. In others, in over 500 simulated landings Armstrong and Aldrin never saw that 'field of boulders'?

Of course, the real story, as many of us know is that there were 2 saucers on the ground in the primary landing area and that is why they had to overfly and find someplace else to land.

As many of us know?
Do we?


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[edit on 13-9-2006 by Denied]

no not that registration mark, I meant those little cross like marks that line up in each strip, near one of those to the right side of the pic, near another bright spot that has a line coming from it, the orb thing I see is to the left of that scratch line.

i'll stop talking now..I'm probably seeing space dust and well I'm not good at photo manipulation, i'll have to work on it tonight, see if i can crop what i'm talking about.

If the photos were retouched, then that might show up more clearly on the negatives than on the print too. Are scans of the negatives available? (not that i'd be able to tell, but I am pretty certain that the effects of retouching them might be more visible there).

Great pics, thanks John and Springer! I'll have to see if i can find these retouch places and anything else anomalus...

I see the crosshairs as below.. but they seem to be missing in some areas.



I also see rock vaguely resembling a pyramid.



There are repeating marks, that I would pass off as errors/blemishes in the film, like these:



Not sure about this.



I like these little tracks, and the head..



And disturbed terrain. Shouldn't it be smoother?



ET..



And the water drops.



That's all I see right now.

Thanks for bringing these to ATS, John.

[edit on 13/9/06 by SteveR]

Mr. Lear:

I may be crazy but those first two shots show a lanscape that looks like the residue of mining activity does it not?

It looks like that ridge is carved out deliberately?

What do you think?

Fantastic pictures, awsome post.

Respect to all involved

Originally posted by denythestatusquo
Mr. Lear:

I may be crazy but those first two shots show a lanscape that looks like the residue of mining activity does it not?

It looks like that ridge is carved out deliberately?

What do you think?

If you back out to a smaller image it sure does... certainly not your average meteor crater...

Amazing photographs. Can someone give us a simple breakdown of the coordinates ? Like, are these from the back side of the moon ?

There are some really intersting shapes in those pics. How much is the brain interpreting what we see in a way we can understand and how much really does look like the face for example is open to debate obviously. There are some interesting giveaways to the retouching including some mismatched parts and sudden blurring on certain areas of some the images.

I keep looking at those dome shaped mounds on the top left of pic 1, along with some of the more obvious face type things and wondering 'what if?' So thanks for upping these pics I'm sure I'll spend hours staring at them getting eye strain. I wonder if I can bill ATS and Joh Lear for the opticians bills? This is the best thread in a long while.

Wayne...

Hmmm......