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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 11:19 PM by SteveR
Well.. a man with an incredible reputation making some incredible claims. What to beleive?! He's enjoying this I know.

I'd like to direct you all here

One of the testimonies is of a NASA airbursher who saw a guy getting smashed in the head with a rifle butt because he looked at one picture he was supposed to destroy. These ofcourse are verified witnesses.

Our view of space and related issues is alot of constructed norms, inaccurate ones. It is undeniable we are fed information that is polar opposite of the truth. The question is, how far into the rabbit hole are you willing to go?

Personally the most I can take is vaguely breathable air on the Moon. Afterall... this is real.


reply posted on 27-9-2006 @ 02:00 AM by zorgon
Here is some interesting news...

I went to my favorite private satelite imaging site to see if they had any moon shots... they do really great work on earth images... forget google earth...

Here is a sample 1 meter resolution... patience it takes 4 scans to load...

Tsanpo River Gorge Shangri La

So I checked to see what they had on the moon... and found one picture...

Apollo 11 landing site

Along with this message...

Somewhere in this image lie man's first footprints on another world. The Sea of Tranquilty (Mare Tranquillitatis), highlighted in this image taken December 22, 1999 from the IKONOS satellite, was the landing site of Apollo 11. July 20, 2000 marks the 31st anniversary of the historic event. Space Imaging will not collect lunar images in the future.


Seems someone doesn't want them turning their hi res cameras on the moon....




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reply posted on 27-9-2006 @ 09:23 AM by ultralo1
Originally posted by zorgon

I went to my favorite private satelite imaging site to see if they had any moon shots... they do really great work on earth images... forget google earth...

So I checked to see what they had on the moon... and found one picture...


Somewhere in this image lie man's first footprints on another world. The Sea of Tranquilty (Mare Tranquillitatis), highlighted in this image taken December 22, 1999 from the IKONOS satellite, was the landing site of Apollo 11. July 20, 2000 marks the 31st anniversary of the historic event. Space Imaging will not collect lunar images in the future.


Seems someone doesn't want them turning their hi res cameras on the moon....




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I have been reading the posts and I have not had much to add to the discussion, untill now. I was just going to ask Mr lear why, with all of the private sector interested in space exploration, doesnt some one put a High res sat in lunar orbit.
Mr. Lear I am pretty confident that you travel in circles that are quite different than what the average Joe travels in. Has anyone had this idea yet?

I am sure that it would be much more cost effective than trying to create a reusable orbiting vehicle, ie.. X-prize. Such a venture is garaunteed to be profitable, just look at IKONOS. The technology is there and the business model also.
If NASA could put a man on the moon with nothing more than slide rules, then with todays computers, we the people should be able to put a sat in place with a minimum of effort.

It is an Honor to be able to converse with you. Thank you for your time.


reply posted on 27-9-2006 @ 11:29 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
I would imagine it's possible for the moon to have a thin layer of atmosphere that's not visible from Earth, or even visible on the moon. If you were standing on a big grey ball, surrounded by the blackness of space, looking out through a couple of hundred yards of colorless gases, what color could the sky be except black?
Nasa wouldn't have to paint out the sky in thousands of photo's, we could all go on believing there's no atmosphere ...


There you go! And in the thread with "5000 pictures of the moon" I have seen some that show a thin atmosphere and some wispy clouds... I will pull them later today... unless someone has found them already.

...and they'd just have to make up a theory to explain all that oxygen in the rock samples they brought back.


No they wouldn't Oxygen and the HO hydroxal radical {decomposes to water} is present in most rocks... Quartz... extremely abundant here and on the moon is Silicon dioxide... quartz makes up a major partr of granite... its also many gemstones like amethyst, rose quartz and agates... just look up any mineral data sheet


A 600 page PDF file that reads like a chemical dictionary, tucked away in the 30th subdirectory of some obscure university server, should do the trick.


They have those... thats how I found the "tether incident" report 378 pages pdf, but it was on Nasa's own obscure server


What's that about air in moon rocks Dear?
They say it's normal.
Oh. That's nice then.
Anything on the telly?


And here you have it in a nutshell why its easy for NASA, the gov, etc. to fool the public with little or no effort...

I mean just look at this thread...

Here we have a conspiracy discussion group...
we are in a thread about Aliens and UFO's...

and yet when we present pretty decent evidence that there is

A} The greatest conspiracy in history... and
B} There is something afoot on the Moon...

we get disbelief and ridicule...

So if members of THIS board have trouble believing, how easy is it to keep the general public in the dark?




reply posted on 27-9-2006 @ 09:59 PM by ChocoTaco369
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
I would imagine it's possible for the moon to have a thin layer of atmosphere that's not visible from Earth, or even visible on the moon. If you were standing on a big grey ball, surrounded by the blackness of space, looking out through a couple of hundred yards of colorless gases, what color could the sky be except black?
Nasa wouldn't have to paint out the sky in thousands of photo's, we could all go on believing there's no atmosphere ...


There you go! And in the thread with "5000 pictures of the moon" I have seen some that show a thin atmosphere and some wispy clouds... I will pull them later today... unless someone has found them already.


if you can, please pull these, i'd love to see them! time isn't allowing me to carefully search through 5,000 photos right now

Originally posted by zorgonI mean just look at this thread...

Here we have a conspiracy discussion group...
we are in a thread about Aliens and UFO's...

and yet when we present pretty decent evidence that there is

A} The greatest conspiracy in history... and
B} There is something afoot on the Moon...

we get disbelief and ridicule...

So if members of THIS board have trouble believing, how easy is it to keep the general public in the dark?



i agree completely. people have too much faith in "the authorities". people will believe anything someone says if it's backed up by a group of people with $250,000 pieces of paper...i mean PHD's...


reply posted on 27-9-2006 @ 10:39 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by TrappedSoul
Where is the decent evidence? All I see is images of shadows from the moon which people think is hidden bases, aliens, etc... I personally think it's all very silly, it's like looking at the sky and trying to find figures.


Sigh I know its hard... Especially when the real stuff is actually very small. It has to be on the scale of these images. I have added some color to some images... might help a bit...

Lets try this one... and look closely...think small... then look back a few times...

I think this set that I am going to post is amazing. Lets hope some of you can see this at least...


Okay here is the locator pic so you know where to look on image #2



The areas of interest are clearly marked..

Now lets bring it closer first the structures.... These are along the ramp leading up to the top level.



Closer still...



This set of buildings is best viewed from a distance to see the full effect. They are located on the main ramp heading to the top level. The building on the left is roughly square, with a round 2nd level and a spire in the center. Two rectangular sections can be seen on the right. You can see the right angle walls as one side is in the sunlight, the other angles back in the shade.

Further along the ramp you come to the tunnel... The ramp ENDS at the tunnel..



Here it is even closer... I have used two color images to help see the contrast...



At the top of the same ramp as the previous structures is the opening of a very large tunnel. There is a clearly defined archway over the opening.
Close up of the entrance showing the classic U shape opening, quite sharp actualy, the straight top of the supporting arch and the curved arch...


Found this one today I don't think even John found this one yet...


But these images will also give you a size reference of the objects we are looking for.


Here is the other entrance with arches in sepia tone. There are actually 6 arches that are definable, but the first one facing forward is the clearest and most obvious. I will make a better image tomorrow with arrows... This one is on the center left of #2 and on the center right on #1 {overlaps}



And here is one more for the road... Now surely this one is a little easier to see that its not just a rock shadow?




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reply posted on 27-9-2006 @ 11:29 PM by InDirectViolation
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by InDirectViolation
I do not see any building. I see an easy to identify slide area where a basalt palisade has been exposed. You see a building. Let's leave it at that.


I have geologist back ground and have probably dug up more rock than John has... this does not look like any basalt I have ever seen...



If you can not see the layers extending to the other end of the slide area, I don't know what to say? (for those just tuning in you need to see my post uncropped a few pages back page15)

Some Earthly examples:
Basalt cliffs near Grand Coulee Dam-



Basalt layer on the Snake River where it cuts through the Columbia Plateau-



Near the John Day Dam on the Columbia River-



Giants Causeway in Ireland shows a classic example of Basalt column's that form these layers-



Another classic example from the Grand Canyon-



There are some spectacular examples south of Pocatello, Idaho starting within the city limits.

These moon photo's were taken from over 40 miles away if I'm understanding right. It would be easy to mistake these structures for a building.

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