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reply posted on 27-5-2007 @ 08:36 AM by greatlakes
Nice post ↑ undo, good finds of some nice Aristarchus Crater (Ari.C). The 1st image is from an amateur astronomer that has some great pics, some really detailed and w/sharp resolution.

Ari.C clearly DOES change appearance often and is the source of many
LUNAR TRANSIENT PHENOMENA (LTP) over the years, decades and even centuries!

Here are reports of sightings (almost like UFO sightings, in fact the link is FROM MUFOR, "Malta UFO Research" interestingly enough) going back centuries, an interesting read ► www.mufor.org...

Some sightings occurring on Ari.C:


1956, Violet glare whole length of E wall and around E wall bright spot; violet tint N and NE of crater



1940, Distinguished crater in dark hemisphere as a bright spot



1821, Luminous appearance on dark side; 6th to 7th mag, 3' to 4' diameter



1789, Bright points seen during observation of star occultation


The different appearance of Ari.C and many spots on the moon can be caused by many reasons, some of the most common sense ones are:
∟Lunar Phase Differences
∟Sun Angle and Earth Angle of Incidence
∟Viewing Angle of Incidence
∟Location of Observer (if from Earth, images may differ from those taken ON the moon and from those taken in orbit about the moon)
∟Camera Settings
∟Type of Camera
∟Filters Used
∟Location on Earth, Environmental Differences from Photo to Photo
∟Angle of the Feature in Relation to the Observer Effects
∟Solar Abnormalities (Solar Flares etc..)
∟Many Many More.

So yes Ari.C is definitely one odd crater, but some of the above may help explain some of the appear oddities. As far as a cover-up, well we now have images taken by amateur astronomers, and unless these people are all "in on it"...That's highly highly doubtful!

Let's look at LTP's a little bit, it's gonna take more than this one post to talk about them that's for sure, but anyway...

I'll make this statement 1st: "Most LTP activity occurs along the edges of the maria, near volcanic features, like domes, sinuous rilles, and craters with dark halos or floors."

This statement is well supported. See the following (all graphs permissible and © 2004 by David O. Darling, Director L.T.P. Research)

www.ltpresearch.org...

The following data is from a study of more than 2000 LTP events throughout the course of solid tangible LTP event record keeping, all based LTP around the area of ARISTARCHUS CRATER, presented in some excellent graphs. These graphs will clearly show that the TLP events occur according to LUNAR PHASE, LUNAR AGE, SEASONAL EARTH CHANGES and other natural cyclical changes.

One thing to note is that FULL MOONS OCCUR in the MOONS AGE on the 15th or 16th DAYS OF THE LUNAR AGE, or PHASE. It's important when looking at these graphs....



Age of the moon meaning phase of the moon roughly. vs. Number of events. Seems to be a correlation between the age of the moon and the observed LTP's.


Shows the specific subset of LTP, "brightening type of LTP"



And yet another type of LTP, Bluish


The lunar transient phenomena called violet or bluish as it will be referred to in this web site dominates the lunation on two specific periods. The first is on day twelve and second on day sixteen, with the Full Moon taking place on the day fifteen.




The reddish type more rare than the blue type, about half as much.


The data indicates that the reddish events are reported at the time of lunar sunrise on this crater and a second jump on the day after Full Moon..


This Red LTP type seems to occur most with a FULL MOON time of lunar phase.



The gaseous type of LTP...


The gaseous events is a special classification. This phenomena can be classified as a red or darkening event but if it behaves like a gaseous medium then both these classifications are given. Again the most active day takes place one day after Full Moon.


So it seems most activity occurs around a full moon, again correlating well with LTP's are associated with LUNAR PHASE (full moons). Another FULL MOON CORRELATION.



The full LTP types graphed against each other...



Vs. Time of the year, observations made according to differing time.


When looking at the lunar transient phenomena reports by months of the year, we find a continued increase until May then a drop. The month of July is spike may be caused by the landing on the Moon on July 20, 1969.


So it seems fairly regular occurrences of these LTP, according to natural cyclical events.



With regards to EARTHSHINE, or when the areas on the moon are not exposed to sunlight directly, but only by the light reflected from Earth (from the sun):


This graph shows the distribution of the L.T.P. classification called brightening. As you can see this phenomena is mainly reported as an Earthshine event. The number of events reported on the graph for the fourteenth day are considerably less.


So it seems that during ONLY EARTHSHINE, LTP events are still seen in the region of Ari.C. So what the astronauts may have seen are these LTP events regardless of lunar exposure to Earthshine or direct sunshine.



Also more information and possible causes of TLP's (and zorgon you'll like this one)...:p

Some LTP phenomena may be caused by sunlight interacting with the lunar soil. On October 30, 1963, James Greenacre and Edward Barr observed red spots sparkling on the southwest wall of the crater Aristarchus, the east wall of Schroter's Valley, and a hill between them (S&T: December, 1963, page 316). The phenomena was observed visually by others and recorded spectroscopically as well. At the same lunar phase a month later, Greenacre and Barr saw a similar event. Since sunrise on these features occurs when the Moon is about 11 days old, Greenacre thought that the low lunar Sun was somehow responsible. Indeed, thermoluminesence mat be the cause. Gases in the lunar soil, frozen during the night, could heat up and escape near sunrise.

Could high-energy solar particles impacting the Moon also trigger LTP activity? Shortly after a large flare erupted on the Sun in 1963, Zdenek Kopal and Thomas Rackham at Pic du Midi Observatory in southern France photographed a local brightening around the craters Copernicus, Kepler, and Aristarchus. Kopal proposed that energetic particles from the flare caused lunar rocks to fluorescence. Such activity might be expected especially at full phase when the Moon passes through the Earth's magnetosphere, where solar wind particles become trapped.


►Makes sense to me. Energetic particles interact with either gases escaping the lunar interior (the moon is not completely dead in my view) and/or interact with the lunar geology to enable fluorescence. Also particularly TELLING is the above quote agrees with the GRAPH data presented, that LTP's correlate to higher occurrences DURING FULL MOON PHASE. Again here "...Such activity might be expected especially at full phase when the Moon passes through the Earth's magnetosphere, where solar wind particles become trapped."

►Sound like a crazy cause for these crazy LTP's. Nah. See below-Ran outa room again! ▼

[edit on 27-5-2007 by greatlakes]



reply posted on 27-5-2007 @ 09:17 AM by greatlakes
Ok, so I'll probably come back to talking about LTP's in some other posts (lengthy I'm sure ☺) but now onto funnerer stuff.

...like...How in the world do we arrive at a HEXAGONAL IMPACT CRATER!? Surely it's caused by either:

►Humans up there on the moon (not denying this, just presenting one possible cause of hexagonal craters);

►Intelligent Aliens Engineering;

►Collaboration between alien and humans to build some sort of hexagonal device in the middle of Ari.C;

Or is there a simpler explanation?

From: PRELIMINARY STUDY OF POLYGONAL IMPACT CRATERS IN ARGYRE REGION, MARS. T. Öh-man1,2, M. Aittola2, V.-P. Kostama2, M. Hyvärinen2 and J. Raitala2. 1Department of Geosciences, Division of Ge-ology, P.O. Box 3000, FI-90014 University of Oulu, Finland, ; 2Department of Physical Sciences, Division of Astronomy, P.O. Box 3000, FI-90014 University of Oulu, Finland. (you can get a copy too online free from LPI ABSTRACT long with many more papers)...

Introduction: Impact craters having a clearly polygonal plan view are common throughout the Solar System. Simple polygonal craters are formed in the excavation stage, when the excavation flow utilizes fractures in the target, leading to more enhanced excavation along the fractures [4].

Thus, the fracture strikes are usually at an angle (often, but not always ~45, see [1]) to the straight segments of the crater wall. The Barringer (Meteor) crater is a good example [5].

Complex polygonal craters, however, are thought to have the straight rim segments parallel to fractures, because the walls slump along them in the modification stage [2,3,4,1]. Complex polygonal craters often tend to be hexagonal [1,2], like the Söderfjärden crater [6].

For a more thorough review on polygonal craters, see [1] and references therein.


((CORRECTION: For some reason I was stating that Ari.C was octagonal (in prev posts), but its clearly HEXAGONAL as I could only count clearly 6 distint facets or sides in any of the images available))

So anyway continuing, this one is from:

VENUSIAN POLYGONAL IMPACT CRATERS. T. Öhman1,2, M. Aittola1, J. Leitner3 and J. Raitala1 1Division of Astronomy, Department of Physical Sciences, P.O. Box 3000, FI-90014 University of Oulu, Finland(marko.aittola@oulu.fi) 2Department of Geosciences, University of Oulu, Finland. Institute for Astronomy...

Introduction: The polygonal impact craters(PICs) are craters that are more or less angular instead of circular or ellipsoidal. They are present and often common on the Moon, Venus, Mercury, Mars and several asteroids and icy moons (e.g. Europa & Iapetus).

Thus, they exist on all kinds of bodies that have craters and fractured crusts [1]. Polygonal craters are also found on the Earth and are supposedly formed by two mechanisms: Simple polygonal craters resulted when the excavation flow opened the crater tearing the target more easily along pre-existing planes of weakness while complex polygonal craters are formed in the modification stage, when the crater rims slumped along the fractures in the target. Both mechanisms lead to straight segments of the rim [2].


So clearly these impact crater that are polygonal are not RARE EVENTS, they just seem to be rare to US, I guess we need to research some more...Anyway thats the technical side of things (read the full papers for the whole mechanism of why..), here are some images. The hexagonal (primarily) craters are found all over the solar system, from moons to planets, here are just some (we know you think that our solar system is teaming with aliens John, that might be, but no, the polygonal craters are not origin=aliens)



















Source:
Angular craters...many more found there and via GOOGLE!

And finally these images are UV light spectrum enhanced from Clementine I believe:


This image seems like I can't see the hexagonal crater feature right? This is due to the angle of incidence. The below photo is from the same series...



And yet in this image WE DO SEE THE HEXAGONAL features of the impact crater. Now let's give it some rotation shall we...



Do YOU SEE THE DOME AND THE HEXAGONAL protrusion that 'appears' to be dimpled out from the crater floor? It's an optical illusion.

hey I still have 2704 chars left hmmm


[edit on 27-5-2007 by greatlakes]


reply posted on 27-5-2007 @ 11:08 AM by greatlakes
Originally posted by johnlear
I would disagree with this statement greatlakes. It appears that not only are you an expert

Why thank you!

Some smart searching on Google and other search engines and some intelligence yields amazing results (most of the time).

There is also something called "Google Hacking" that enables your searches to become razor sharp and targeted. It's not really hacking, its manipulating the search engine terms and modifiers to yield all kinds of nifty results!

So if you call me an expert well again, thanks, but then the real experts must bu called gurus then

Originally posted by johnlear
...but that you have an agenda

Yes I do have an agenda, It is to "Deny Ignorance". Isn't that part of the reason you are here? gee I hope so.

Originally posted by johnlear
I find Ari.C. an unnecessary injection of middle east politics into this thread. If you have to abbreviate Aristarchus let me suggest you use 'nukegen' or something like that.


You lost me by the middle east reference, what are you talking about? Please expound. The Ari.C is used as an ABBREVIATION, you know how many times I would have to write ARISTARCHUS CRATER in my above posts?!

I will continue using abbreviations, sorry, it is not against any T&C that I'm aware of. However if *for some reason unknown to me and most likely anyone else reading your post* you find Ari.C offensive (but not nukegen?) I will substitute Ari.C with Aris.C or Ar.C.

Thanks

BTW I even looked Ari.C up on google, to no avail...

see here:
www.google.com...

[edit on 27-5-2007 by greatlakes]
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