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John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS

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posted on May, 19 2007 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by greatlakes
Its kinda funny, I came across it myself before.
I know it's off-topic, but I will grab the opportunity to say that redirecting people to the FBI page may make the FBI a little suspicious about the redirections to their site, if they look at the logs.




posted on May, 19 2007 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Orion437
Why does the land of legends website redirect me to the fbi site ?

try this in your browser:

www.landoflegends.us...

And then, try this:

www.landoflegends.us...


What is this? Who is the author of this site? What is the meaning of this?

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[edit on 19-5-2007 by Orion437]


Stick with clicking on links instead of typing in new web addy's.



posted on May, 19 2007 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP...redirecting people to the FBI page may make the FBI a little suspicious about the redirections to their site, if they look at the logs.


It was his idea, I was all for laying low. But high profile has its good points too I suppose. Kind of like protection against clandestine activities...



posted on May, 19 2007 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by Orion437
Why does the land of legends website redirect me to the fbi site ?


Actually it doesn't. That only happens on the Pegasus sites, a sub domain of Land of Legends... which is the Host site...



What is this? Who is the author of this site?


I am... thought that was pretty obvious by now




What is the meaning of this?


Well if you are going to snoop through my directories I could have simply put a "directory listing denied" notice, but sending you to the FBI info page seemed more useful


Wait till ya see what happens to hacker attempts


[edit on 19-5-2007 by zorgon]



posted on May, 19 2007 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by greatlakes
Its kinda funny, I came across it myself before.
I know it's off-topic, but I will grab the opportunity to say that redirecting people to the FBI page may make the FBI a little suspicious about the redirections to their site, if they look at the logs.


Really? You think? Heck its only their info public page... But maybe if people stop snooping in my directories it wouldn't happen



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by Matyas
It was his idea, I was all for laying low. But high profile has its good points too I suppose. Kind of like protection against clandestine activities...


There is little point in "lying low" when you have all the info on a freely accessable public website

There IS a point to keeping SOME things "under wraps"

The open book policy so far has worked to bring me many sources of info. I doubt a little knock on there front door is going to stir them up since they are already monitoring everything thats going on anyway. I suppose some "snoop" trying to find those hidden files might have cause to be nervous about "pinging" the "nice visitors that talk with a monotone, have no humor, and use black as the preferred aesthetic appeal in apparel."

LOL I seem to recall the rest of that quote from a wise individual...


"I'll help you hold the dogs at bay. That should be easy enough with honesty and truth. No one else uses that tactic. It'll really throw them off. Then there will be the oil thugs, so what we will have to do is hide all the guns and convince 'em that the power source is too expensive for the average joe, that it is just a mockup for free thrill rides and give 'em a lift into the air. High. Very, very high. Then tell 'em we are going to use a lawn mower engine for the general public."


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posted on May, 20 2007 @ 09:54 AM
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Hey Ron I still need to talk to you about a good plan and letter ideas to approach the camera manufacturers for some of the moon satelites. So figure out a good way for communicating and let me know boss. I wanna get on top of this and see i we can get tome new doors open. We might as well try and set a trend towards trying to get some of these people omn our side and perhaps others will start to do the same until we get some solid answers or some pictures released to us. After all someones gotta start every good movement.

~Anathema



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon LOL I seem to recall the rest of that quote from a wise individual...


Hmm, sounds familiar! Dang, ever have one of those moments you couldn't quite put a finger on it?


Lately I have encountered some concern over my ability to stay on topic. I think more people are trying too hard to stay on topic and missing out on the fun of the adventure itself. I mean, after all, how can trees on Mars, bases on the Moon, and Nazi UFOs stay on topic? I can see it happening for the honeybee threads and Morgellon's, but this stuff is too far out!

Well, at any rate, it is a good thing I don't get paid for being here, or I would be somewhere between zero and minus anyway



posted on May, 20 2007 @ 07:04 PM
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Do not be hard on yourself, matyas. In many other forums i am well known for straying off topic and hijacking threads. Random thoughts fill my mind, you know, and sometimes one of them leads to a thread of thought that i feel i need to have. The fact that it annoys some of the others is enough to keep me on topic here, as i am not familiar with the admins (I am the admin at one site, and know the others very well).

The problem I see, anathema, is that people do not want to believe. This apparent "block" in their minds is one thing that, to me, supports sleepers story to one degree or another. People don't want to know. Some choose blissful ignorance, such as my wife. Others fight tooth and nail to keep the "demons" of truth out of their head. Until you can overcome this, we are not likely going to see any forward movement.

Disinformation has moved into the realm of positive public opinion, leaving the truth holding the bag in the rain.
And very few know the difference between what is true (and fantastically unbelievable) and what is a lie (and fantastically unbelievable).



posted on May, 21 2007 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by anathema777
Hey Ron I still need to talk to you about a good plan and letter ideas to approach the camera manufacturers for some of the moon satelites. So figure out a good way for communicating and let me know boss.


By Sunday I will have free time...this is the last huge show till August. These 12 hour sets are killing me literally



posted on May, 21 2007 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan Random thoughts fill my mind, you know, and sometimes one of them leads to a thread of thought that i feel i need to have.


Thank you. That is my point exactly. And sometimes I get verbose and loose attention from the audience.

As far as belief, I have learned a great deal since coming here. I just learned how much I didn't know, and in the process my worldview has expanded to such a degree I can now recognize more phenomena when it hits me in the face, not like in the past when I didn't know what to see...

Still the question remains, will this ever materialize in a better job position or funding? Its good to be smart, but when you can't pay the bills with it, well, it kinda becomes a novelty instead.

We do have a lot of resources, you with your pivot table skill, Karilla with a boat, and John's mine, my business, and Zorgon's shows and fancy connections, and everyone else's firepower. So eventually either we pull these resources together or someone somewhere secures enough funding for a project to being everyone in, or we will still be pulling in our own directions.

Just thoughts on the state of things.

Edit sp, gmr

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posted on May, 21 2007 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Matyas
Still the question remains, will this ever materialize in a better job position or funding?


Highly unlikely... Its more likely that one will suffer ridicule and be faced answering the same chain of questions to a never ending stream of close minded individuals who do not understand the true meaning of research and cannot rad more than half a page in a thread.

If its funding you seek, sell it as an "amusement device" that will give you a thrill ride



Its good to be smart, but when you can't pay the bills with it, well, it kinda becomes a novelty instead.


Seeing as 96.3267 percent of people in the world need to pay the bills, I suppose "being smart" has little chance of becoming anything more than a novelty




We do have a lot of resources,


Resources are useless if there is no team effort, as I found in the Medieval venture. Sources go elsewhere if there is no forward activity with a goal at the end.



So eventually either we pull these resources together or someone somewhere secures enough funding for a project to being everyone in, or we will still be pulling in our own directions.


Yep, a second attempt at the Medieval World seems like a good idea right now...



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posted on May, 21 2007 @ 11:19 PM
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I am not sure i follow this completely, or maybe I do.

First, mat...where did i write that i had "pivot table skills"? (That sounded so Napoleon Dynamitish..."nunchuk skills, bow hunting skills"). That is actually somewhat amusing. I am pretty good with Excel, excluding VB (i don't have time to mess with scripting).

I don't recall if i had posted that somewhere, or what.

Also, if either of you are referring to management problems, let me know if you want some input. I have quite a bit of management experience, as well as fiscal planning and process development. Not sure I can help, but i recognize the general issue you are discussing and might have some additional input for you, should you so desire.



posted on May, 22 2007 @ 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I am not sure i follow this completely, or maybe I do.


Thats okay I don't either.. Management problems most definately! Managing all the data coming in and trying to sort it for Pegasus...

Space ship plans not getting anywhere fast enough


Medieval scene put on hold due to sudden death of three funders in short time, but it beckons to be revived...


Bow hunting skills I could use... need a new head archer... but thats all off topic... so lemme see if there is any interesting moon stuff lying around...



posted on May, 22 2007 @ 01:11 AM
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After 10 days of reading every post in this thread, all I can say is...

WOW !!!!

John, Zorgon, Undo, Mat and everyone who has made a positive contribution to this thread deserves rich applause and kudos

Admittedly, when I first started reading this thread and perusing the photos, I was somewhat skeptical about whether it was indeed possible for us to have colonised and mined the moon for over 40 years

Not so much thru lack of wanting to believe it, or indeed not being swayed by the evidence you guys had produced, I was less inclined to believe it early on because of the sheer scope and size of the whole thing

So many questions remained in my mind based on how the hell was it possible something of this scale had been done, yet few had an inkling of its existence ?

Well, I can say after 10 days of reading, I am absolutely convinced than mankind is indeed mining and what not on the moon, and in very large numbers

A while ago, I came across a documentary made by British TV in the 70's called Alternative Three...In short, it centered around the best scientific minds being taken from earth to colonise the moon which was to be used as a launchpad to mars and beyond...

I guess after reading everything in this thread, and combining it with what I learned about Alternative Three, the two together have very much convinced me there is a huge human presence on the moon (and beyond ?) and has been for some decades

Anywho, to all of you who have contributed, thankyou for doing so and thankyou for presenting the evidence which can only leave one convinced of what is obviously going on out there



posted on May, 22 2007 @ 01:17 AM
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welcome and thanks for reading the thread... It takes a special kind to do that
... but there is more to come so stay tuned



posted on May, 22 2007 @ 01:30 AM
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More to come ??!!

Excellent, cant wait Zorgon


I wouldn't mind another round of anomaly spotting at all, it truly is amazing what you can see with a good eye and good ol Gimp

Waiting with baited breath...



posted on May, 22 2007 @ 01:38 PM
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To all Pegasus contributors and anyone wishing to start a letter writing campaign... here is one that is a must read...

It is in pdf format and posted at the Whitehouse.gov

www.whitehouse.gov...



posted on May, 22 2007 @ 09:01 PM
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Promontory Agarum is on the southeast rim of Mare Crisium. It has long fascinated observers because of the huge object/artifact that has been built there. Most moon pictures obscure the area in some fashion to hide the construct. But it's there.

Here are three photos taken by the Lick Observatory the first on June 3, 1938, the second on July 23, 1942 and the third on May 3, 1947. At roughly the center of each picture is the Promontory Agarum.

Here is the photo taken on June 3, 1938.




Now here is a photo taken on July 23, 1942. You can see that things are taking place out on the Promontory.



And here is the photo taken May 3, 1947. What appears to be a huge crane has been erected. Of course, it is probably not a crane but it is huge.



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[edit on 22-5-2007 by johnlear]



posted on May, 22 2007 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear
Here are three photos taken by the Lick Observatory the first on June 3, 1938, the second on July 23, 1942 and the third on May 3, 1947. At roughly the center of each picture is the Promontory Agarum.


That are some nice pictures John, you only have the zoomed pictures or maybe the full originals?



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