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Topic started on 5-11-2003 @ 08:59 AM by EastCoastKid


Before you go falling under the impression "Al Qaida" is responsible for bombings and acts of terror, look beyond what the mainstream keeps telling you... Here's a good example of fake terror.

US Helped Mossad Escape
After Hakim's Murder
Tehran Times
11-5-3

TEHRAN (Mehr News Agency) -- The U.S. Central Command helped 15 Mossad agents involved in the assassination of Ayatollah Mohammad Baqer al-Hakim to flee Iraq, an Egyptian weekly magazine disclosed on Monday.

Ayatollah Hakim, the leader of the Supreme Assembly for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SAIRI), was killed in a massive car bomb blast in the holy city of Najaf on August 7. The blast left 82 killed and more than 100 wounded.

The U.S. Central Command was sure that the agents of the Zionist intelligence service Mossad had planned and executed the assassination with the help of some elements from the U.S. and Iraqi spies, Al-Osboaí weekly said.

The U.S. Centcom acquired conviction about the plot after examining the explosives used in the operation; the explosives which were highly advanced are used only by Mossad, the weekly added.

For the first time, the Mehr News Agency broke the story about the Mossad involvement in the killing of the prominent Iraqi Shiite leader.

An Iraqi political analyst said that evidence of Mossad involvement has been found at the Najaf blast site. The analyst, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Mehr News Agency that Zionist intelligence agents have made great efforts to infiltrate Iraqi groups in order to thwart efforts to create national unity.

After Saddam Hussein was ousted, the Zionist regime took advantage of divisions among the Iraqi Shia and sent a large number of extremist Jews and Mossad agents to Iraq, with the help of the occupying forces, to infiltrate Islamic groups and obtain information, the analyst said.

He added that a few months ago, a Mossad agent who knew Arabic and was quite familiar with Iraqi Muslim groups made a great effort to infiltrate organizations in southern Iraq and even influenced these groups.

He stated that there are reports that the terrorist Mojahedin-e Khalq Organization (MKO) is helping Zionist operatives in Iraq and is receiving direct help from U.S. troops, adding that there is a written agreement to this effect.

Saddam supported the MKO for years and ordered MKO members to spy on and wage war against the Iraqi Shia.

The main goal of the Zionists is sowing discord among Muslims, especially the Shia, because they are aware of the peopleís great attachment to clerics such as martyr Ayatollah Baqer al-Hakim, who have been making efforts to unite the people in order to prevent the domination of Iraq and the plunder of its resources. While not ruling out the possibility of the involvement of extremist groups such as Al-Qaeda in the blast in Najaf, he noted, ìOf course, I think the massive propaganda by the pro-Western media and the emphasis on blaming Al-Qaeda or remnants of the Baath Party should be considered a conscious effort to conceal the role of Zionist and occupying forces in this abominable atrocity.î

He said that increased insecurity and the outbreak of a civil war among Muslims, especially the Shia, could be used as an excuse for continuing the occupation of Iraq, adding that U.S. troops' refusal to maintain security at religious sites is part of this plot.

Copyright Tehran Times

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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 09:27 AM by straterx


====Attention=====
Will All Jews Muslems and other 3rd parties
who actually give a Crap
Please line up to Kill each Other

====Thank You====



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 10:35 AM by Djarums


Any other evidence of this claim besides the Mehr News Agency?

Not to be rude but that's hardly a group of straight shooters when it comes to certain issues.

I find it odd that all the people who complain about the "mainstream" press seem to embrace anything not considered "mainstream" no matter what it is.

It's as if there is an aversion to the fact that radical muslims engage in terrorist activities and the murder of innocents. People seem to be willing to throw the blame at anyone but this group. If you blame the Muslim groups for terrorist activities even activities they claim credit for you become "mainstream" press and lose your credibility among many people here. It's a shame that reporting the truth is now frowned upon while state controlled press offices are seen as neutral authorities.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 11:01 AM by EastCoastKid



Originally posted by Djarums
Any other evidence of this claim besides the Mehr News Agency?

Not to be rude but that's hardly a group of straight shooters when it comes to certain issues.

I find it odd that all the people who complain about the "mainstream" press seem to embrace anything not considered "mainstream" no matter what it is.

It's as if there is an aversion to the fact that radical muslims engage in terrorist activities and the murder of innocents. People seem to be willing to throw the blame at anyone but this group. If you blame the Muslim groups for terrorist activities even activities they claim credit for you become "mainstream" press and lose your credibility among many people here. It's a shame that reporting the truth is now frowned upon while state controlled press offices are seen as neutral authorities.


Elevate your thinking. The purpose of this thread is to make people aware of the players on the field. The information is good. Understand that terror from both sides is fomented, by and large, by the same nameless, faceless players. The masters of terror are those you cling to to save you.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 11:17 AM by intelgurl


Jeez... could you please find a more reputable news agency to extract info from?



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 11:30 AM by EastCoastKid



Originally posted by intelgurl
Jeez... could you please find a more reputable news agency to extract info from?


I'm sorry if truth offends you, people. Attack the source if you want. Open your eyes and quit listening to your dailey dose of propaganda.


Israel Encouraged the Development of Hamas

Note: Like the U.S. government, the Israelis need terrorism and cannot operate their planetary scam without it. Last week we alluded to the shadowy identity of the Jerusalem bus bomber who was described as "dressed as a religious Jew." We pointed out that he was riding a bus for Israelis only and that Hamas had been founded with Israeli assistance. Some readers asked for documentation on the Israeli-Hamas link. Without having to dig through our archives, we can across this confessional snippet in today's New York Times


www.etrend.ch...'s

or..

A highly placed investigator said there are "tie-ins." But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, "evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
Part 1:
Carl Cameron Investigates
www.whatreallyhappened.com...

FAKE TERROR: The Road to War and Dictatorship

It's the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times; creating the enemies you need.

In 70 BC, an ambitious minor politician and extremely wealthy man, Marcus Licineus Crassus, wanted to rule Rome. Just to give you an idea of what sort of man Crassus really was, he is credited with invention of the fire brigade. But in Crassus' version, his fire-fighting slaves would race to the scene of a burning building whereupon Crassus would offer to buy it on the spot for a tiny fraction of it's worth. If the owner sold, Crassus' slaves would put out the fire. If the owner refused to sell, Crassus allowed the building to burn to the ground. By means of this device, Crassus eventually came to be the largest single private land holder in Rome, and used some of his wealth to help back Julius Caesar against Cicero.

In 70 BC Rome was still a Republic, which placed very strict limits on what Rulers could do, and more importantly NOT do. But Crassus had no intentions of enduring such limits to his personal power, and contrived a plan.

Crassus seized upon the slave revolt led by Spartacus in order to strike terror into the hearts of Rome, whose garrison Spartacus had already defeated in battle. But Spartacus had no intention of marching on Rome itself, a move he knew to be suicidal. Spartacus and his band wanted nothing to do with the Roman empire and had planned from the start merely to loot enough money from their former owners in the Italian countryside to hire a mercenary fleet in which to sail to freedom.


Sailing away was the last thing Crassus wanted Spartacus to do. He needed a convenient enemy with which to terrorize Rome itself for his personal political gain. So Crassus bribed the mercenary fleet to sail without Spartacus, then positioned two Roman legions in such a way that Spartacus had no choice but to march on Rome.
Terrified of the impending arrival of the much-feared army of gladiators, Rome declared Crassus Praetor. Crassus then crushed Spartacus' army and even though Pompeii took the credit, Crassus was elected Consul of Rome the following year.


With this maneuver, the Romans surrendered their Republican form of government. Soon would follow the first Triumvirate, consisting of Crassus, Pompeii, and Julius Caesar, followed by the reign of the god-like Emperors of Rome.
The Romans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the rule of Emperors.

Julius Caesar's political opponent, Cicero, for all his literary accomplishments, played the same games in his campaign against Julius Caesar, claiming that Rome was falling victim to an internal "vast right wing" conspiracy in which any expressed desire for legislative limits on government was treated as suspicious behavior. Cicero, in order to demonstrate to the Romans just how unsafe Rome has become hired thugs to cause as much disturbance as possible, and campaigned on a promise to end the internal strife if elected and granted extraordinary powers.


What Cicero only dreamed of, Adolph Hitler succeeded in doing. Elected Chancellor of Germany, Hitler, like Crassus, had no intention of living with the strict limits to his power imposed by German law. Unlike Cicero, Hitler's thugs were easy to recognize; they all wore the same brown shirts. But their actions were no different than those of their Roman predecessors. They staged beatings, set fires, caused as much trouble as they could, while Hitler made speeches promising that he could end the crime wave of subversives and terrorism if he was granted extraordinary powers.
Then the Reichstag burned down; a staged terrorist attack.

The Germans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the total rule of Der Fuhrer.
www.whatreallyhappened.com...

The truth is out there.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 11:36 AM by Leveller



Originally posted by EastCoastKid


I'm sorry if truth offends you, people. Attack the source if you want. Open your eyes and quit listening to your dailey dose of propaganda.






What an idiot.
You don't think that the report you've posted might be propaganda?

Truth? Where is your proof?
Ah. You don't have any.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 11:39 AM by EastCoastKid



Originally posted by Leveller

Originally posted by EastCoastKid


I'm sorry if truth offends you, people. Attack the source if you want. Open your eyes and quit listening to your dailey dose of propaganda.








What an idiot.
You don't think that the report you've posted might be propaganda?

Truth? Where is your proof?
Ah. You don't have any.


I might entertain your questions if you hadn't cancelled your credibility with the name-calling. Stay in the dark.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 11:49 AM by Leveller


It's not name calling.
It's a fact.

And dude. You assume that you are the only one with the truth?
Pah!!! 99% of what you post is propaganda from other sources.
Get real.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 12:13 PM by EastCoastKid



Originally posted by Leveller
It's not name calling.
It's a fact.

And dude. You assume that you are the only one with the truth?
Pah!!! 99% of what you post is propaganda from other sources.
Get real.


Yawn. Know at least some of your history:
CounterPunch

January 25, 2003

Too Many Smoking Guns to Ignore:
Israel, American Jews, and the War on Iraq
by BILL and KATHLEEN CHRISTISON
former CIA political analysts

Most of the vociferously pro-Israeli neo-conservative policymakers in the Bush administration make no effort to hide the fact that at least part of their intention in promoting war against Iraq (and later perhaps against Syria, Iran, Hezbollah, and the Palestinians) is to guarantee Israel's security by eliminating its greatest military threats, forging a regional balance of power overwhelmingly in Israel's favor, and in general creating a more friendly atmosphere for Israel in the Middle East. Yet, despite the neo-cons' own openness, a great many of those on the left who oppose going to war with Iraq and oppose the neo-conservative doctrines of the Bush administration nonetheless utterly reject any suggestion that Israel is pushing the United States into war, or is cooperating with the U.S., or even hopes to benefit by such a war. Anyone who has the temerity to suggest any Israeli instigation of, or even involvement in, Bush administration war planning is inevitably labeled somewhere along the way as an anti-Semite. Just whisper the word "domination" anywhere in the vicinity of the word "Israel," as in "U.S.-Israeli domination of the Middle East" or "the U.S. drive to assure global domination and guarantee security for Israel," and some leftist who otherwise opposes going to war against Iraq will trot out charges of promoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the old czarist forgery that asserted a Jewish plan for world domination.
www.counterpunch.org...

And please, none of that tired crap about the site being liberal. You ain't talkin' to a liberal. Only the closed-minded one plays into that left-right garbage.

Are Congress people dumb about Israel, or just faking it?


I ran into Congressman Jerrold Nadler (a die-hard Zionist) in a coffee shop across the street from my apartment on Dec. 29 2001. I talked to him for about five minutes. I asked for his take on Ashcroft rounding-up Israelis as detainees.

I was shocked that he did not know there were still detainees with Israeli passports. Including possibly 4-5 Arabs with fake Israeli passports-"Not true" - he says about the Arabs with Israeli passports.

Then I told him that the JTA (Jewish Telegraphy Agency) is reporting 10-25% of the detainees are Jewish.

"That high" he mumbled to himself.

I asked what he thought about the four-part series that Fox cable news had aired about this round-up of Israelis as detainees. He did not know anything about it.

Then I told him that the government of Israel joined forces with Jewish-American organizations to pressure Fox cable news to pull the transcripts of the series off their website.
www.ummah.org.uk...

FOREIGN POLICY

A record of terror

JOHN CHERIAN


"YOU do not fight terror by shaking hands with a terrorist," said a senior Arab diplomat based in Delhi. He was referring to the visit of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to India in the second week of September. Sharon's career-graph bears ample testimony to his predilection to use violence and terror to achieve the goals of the Zionist blueprint for the region. An unabashed votary of `Eretz Israel' (Greater Israel), Sharon was involved in right-wing terrorist activity from the age of 14, when he joined the Haganah, an underground Jewish militant organisation that used terrorist methods against the native Palestinians and the British colonial administration.
www.hinduonnet.com... /print.pl?file=20030926004902600.htm&date=fl2019/&prd=fline&



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 01:51 PM by Djarums




I'm sorry if truth offends you, people. Attack the source if you want. Open your eyes and quit listening to your dailey dose of propaganda.



Who are you? I fail to see where you get off deciding for anyone else that the news sources we use are "propoganda" and your Iranian (most likely state controlled) article is "truth".

I'm not offended by truth, I just don't see this one Iranian article as the "truth".

If you don't understand that Iran isn't exactly an arena that entitles Israel to a fair shake, then you are the one who needs to open your eyes. Not me.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 01:53 PM by Djarums




Note: Like the U.S. government, the Israelis need terrorism and cannot operate their planetary scam without it. Last week we alluded to the shadowy identity of the Jerusalem bus bomber who was described as "dressed as a religious Jew." We pointed out that he was riding a bus for Israelis only and that Hamas had been founded with Israeli assistance. Some readers asked for documentation on the Israeli-Hamas link. Without having to dig through our archives, we can across this confessional snippet in today's New York Times




What the hell is this? Israel's planetary scam? Get over this # already.

As for a Hamas terrorist dressing as a Jew, maybe you're new here but we covered that a long time ago. It was the general concensus after reading about it on both American and Arabic news sources that this is indeed a tactic commonly employed.

Eyes... open...?



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 03:02 PM by EastCoastKid



Originally posted by Djarums



I'm sorry if truth offends you, people. Attack the source if you want. Open your eyes and quit listening to your dailey dose of propaganda.



Who are you? I fail to see where you get off deciding for anyone else that the news sources we use are "propoganda" and your Iranian (most likely state controlled) article is "truth".

I'm not offended by truth, I just don't see this one Iranian article as the "truth".

If you don't understand that Iran isn't exactly an arena that entitles Israel to a fair shake, then you are the one who needs to open your eyes. Not me.


You're getting quite unhinged, there, Djarums. Seems you can't stand the thought of anyone disagreeing with you. That's too bad. It doesn't matter. The information posted here is for everyone to read and assimilate for themselves. Try and control that!



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 03:03 PM by EastCoastKid



Originally posted by Djarums



Note: Like the U.S. government, the Israelis need terrorism and cannot operate their planetary scam without it. Last week we alluded to the shadowy identity of the Jerusalem bus bomber who was described as "dressed as a religious Jew." We pointed out that he was riding a bus for Israelis only and that Hamas had been founded with Israeli assistance. Some readers asked for documentation on the Israeli-Hamas link. Without having to dig through our archives, we can across this confessional snippet in today's New York Times




What the hell is this? Israel's planetary scam? Get over this # already.

As for a Hamas terrorist dressing as a Jew, maybe you're new here but we covered that a long time ago. It was the general concensus after reading about it on both American and Arabic news sources that this is indeed a tactic commonly employed.

Eyes... open...?


No, your eyes are closed. But if you wish to remain in the dark, that is your choice. And you don't intimidate me, so save your vitriol.

[Edited on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 03:34 PM by Djarums


Sadly you're missing the point. I'm not the one trying to overhaul people's opinions on something by using a barely disguised piece of propoganda. It is you however who believes that anyone who doesn't follow your view of blaming this incident on Israel is "in the dark". That's not something I'm arguing, you've said it yourself throughout this thread. You constantly call anyone who disagrees with you in the dark, and you say I'm guilty of this?



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 03:39 PM by EastCoastKid



Originally posted by Djarums
Sadly you're missing the point. I'm not the one trying to overhaul people's opinions on something by using a barely disguised piece of propoganda. It is you however who believes that anyone who doesn't follow your view of blaming this incident on Israel is "in the dark". That's not something I'm arguing, you've said it yourself throughout this thread. You constantly call anyone who disagrees with you in the dark, and you say I'm guilty of this?


I said YOU are in the dark. Sorry that you find it so hard to be rational when you disagree with someone else. I don't tell anyone what to believe. I only encourage research and independent thought. Ever heard of that, Djarums?



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 03:49 PM by Leveller


You encourage rational and independant thought?
You know the truth?
Others are in the dark?


I suggest that you are blinded by your own bull# and arrogance.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 04:06 PM by EastCoastKid



Originally posted by Leveller
You encourage rational and independant thought?
You know the truth?
Others are in the dark?


I suggest that you are blinded by your own bull# and arrogance.


DITTO.
I try and stay away from this most touchy issue. I see now what everyone means. The truth hurts, folks.



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reply posted on 5-11-2003 @ 05:19 PM by maximusLaw



Originally posted by Djarums


I find it odd that all the people who complain about the "mainstream" press seem to embrace anything not considered "mainstream" no matter what it is.




EXCELLENT point



[Edited on 5-11-2003 by maximusLaw]



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