Originally posted by interestedalways
I agree after thinking about it. The coma wouldn't be there between "I am the offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star" if he was saying
that David and the morning star parented him.
Maybe Jesus and Lucifer are One. Male and Female of the same thing.
Not to be picking at you but you still seem to think I am referring to a devil or satan and not once did I imply that.
[edit on 12-9-2006 by interestedalways]
"I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." (Revelation 22:16)
In Isaiah 14:12, St. Jerome, translated the Hebrew "morning star" into the Latin term "Lucifer" (light bearer), a name commonly ascribed to Satan
by Christians, and represents the fallen star, an ancient symbol for the fallen or evil one. The mourning star actually appears as the planet Venus,
the brightest "star" in the sky. Venus always appears low on the horizon, thus it looked like a fallen star (fallen angel) to the believers.
In Hebrew Heylel ben Shahar means "Helel son of Shahar." Helel was a Babylonian / Canaanite god who was the son of another Babylonian / Canaanite
god named Shahar, the origin predates the Bible and I believe its use in Revelation 22 is deferential. Helel was the god of the morning star and his
father was Shahar, god of the dawn.
The word "Devil" is not used in the Old Testament. It is Abaddon in Hebrew, Apollyon in Greek, meaning "destroyer." The Devil is the name given to
a supernatural entity who, in most Western religions, is the central embodiment of evil. This entity is also commonly referred to by a variety of
names, including Satan, Lucifer, Mephistopheles and Beelzebub.
The Helel-Lucifer (i.e. Venus) myth was later transferred to Satan, as evidenced by the 1st-century text "Vita Adae et Evae" where the Adversary
gives Adam an account of his early career.
Satan(meaning "adversary" or "accuser"), and the Arabic shaitan, derives from a Semitic root šṭn, meaning "to be hostile", "to accuse".
The most common synonym for Satan, "the Devil", entered Modern English from Middle English devel, from Old English dēofol, from Latin diabolus,
from Late Greek diabolos, from Greek, "slanderer", from diaballein, "to slander"
Lucifer is sometimes used in Christian theology to refer to Satan, from a reference in Isaiah 14:12-14. In Jewish theology, however, this figure
(Helel in Hebrew) has nothing to do with the Jewish understanding of Satan. Beelzebub (meaning "Lord of Flies") is actually the name of a Philistine
god, but it is also used in the New Testament as a synonym for Satan.