I haven't been here in a while so I figured I'd give ATS something to chew on for the 5 year anniversary.
Perhaps some members may remember this thread about Lloyd (read Lloyd's original account here):
9/11 Pentagon: The Mystery of the Moved Taxi
I can tell you that since that thread was created by the administrators at ATS, a significant amount of new information has been obtained. But the
main point is that whether or not the cab was moved is quite irrelevant when demonstrating the impossibility of Lloyd's account in general.
For those that don't know; Lloyd's account is utterly
critical to the official story of a 757 hitting the pentagon.
Lightpole number 1 allegedly went through his windshield.
Here is a picture of his taxi on 9/11 next to the lightpole:
Now the real question is how possible is it that a light pole of this size get's knocked down by a 757 going over 500 mph and comes crashing through
the windshield but
doesn't even scratch the hood?
Russell Pickering is the owner of
www.pentagonresearch.com...
He is a premier pentagon researcher and currently supports the 757 impact hypothesis but believes it was remote guided as opposed to piloted by Hani
Hanjour.
He had been debating Merc about Lloyd for weeks.
Russell had done a phone interview with Lloyd and had surmised that it was merely the top arm piece of the pole that had gone through his windshield
which is why the hood remained undamaged. This is the piece Russell was talking about:
That would certainly make sense except that Lloyd is quite old and a bit senile so there were still questions about what piece he was talking about in
the phone interview.
So Dylan Avery invited Russell Pickering and Merc (along with myself) to Washington DC on a little field research trip for Loose Change Final Cut.
We had interviews with many eyewitnesses and planned on surveying the topography of the area and many other things.
And since Russell already had Lloyd's phone number......we lined up an interview with him as well to clarify once and for all which piece of the pole
really went through the windshield.
But first we paid a trip to the VDOT (virginia department of transportation) to inspect the poles.
They informed us that the orginal poles from 9/11 were unceremoniously sent out as scrap with their regular 60 day salvage pick up.
Here are pics of the VDOT cleaning up the poles almost 3 weeks later on 9/29.
(Why didn't the fbi collect these key pieces of evidence?)
So they were gracious enough at the VDOT to show us the same type of pole that allegedly hit Lloyd's taxi cab for us to inspect.
I lifted the base end up and I had to squat lift to do it. The pole is 250 lbs and naturally the base is the heaviest part. Russell and Merc both
agreed that it was physically impossible for the long piece of the pole to be what pierced Lloyd's windshield.
So after inspecting the poles at the VDOT Lloyd agreed to have us over to his house for an interview.
He invited us in and introduced us to his wife.
First we opened up a laptop and showed Lloyd multiple pictures from 9/11 and had him identify which piece of the pole went through his windshield.
Time after time he pointed to the large piece that all of us knew was impossible.
Russell even drew a diagram of the cab and had Lloyd illustrate the pole.
He specifically drew the base of the long piece of the pole sticking out of the windshield into mid-air.
Lloyd claims that after the pole hit his car that was going about 40 mph he locked his brakes (but there are no visible skid marks) and that a
stranger in a van that "didn't say a word" helped him lift the pole up out of his car but that he fell to the ground when doing so because he
didn't know the top end of the pole that was in his car was bent. So all of this supposedly happened without even scratching the hood.
Lloyd is old, frail, and a bit senile. I can't imagine him lifting the pole at all even with the help of the mysteriously silent stranger.
Lloyd agreed to do an interview on camera for us so we decided to do it outside in front of his new cab.
Dylan and I preparing to interview Lloyd:
Lloyd showing us the signed torn in half dollar bill that he saved from 9/11.
Lloyd lit up for the camera......he gave us his account as usual but this time he did something different......he suggested that it made no sense to
him that he couldn't see any large pieces of the plane!
The story just get's weirder after that.
Lloyd's wife busted out with some personal photos of the cab taken just after they got it back from impound the next day.
Look how pristine the hood is:
In Lloyd's account he has the sharp top part of the severed poll knocking the passenger seat down to allow it to go all the way to the back seat.
However this personal photo of the interior shows the passenger seat unripped or pierced!
Seems odd when you consider the enourmous kinetic energy the poll would have absorbed after being hit by a 757.
But look closely at the pic.
Look what book Lloyd was reading on 9/11!
None other than David Icke's new book at the time about the Lizard shapeshifting NWO. Released in April of 2001!
We asked Lloyd if he reads David Icke and his response was simply "I read a little bit of everything".
Quite a strange coinicidence and rather odd coming from an uneducated cabdriver in his 70's.
