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Originally posted by Novise
The question, "What created God?" It only forces me to say that nothing made him.
You don't have to believe in God. All I'm saying is that at some point, something had to come out of nothing.
All it proves to me is that miracles and impossible things can happen, with or without God (or at some point they could atleast, his existence is a miracle in itself, and he couldn't have caused it before he existed).
I guess some would say that it all just started out with something, or with God. I say that if that is the case, then there was no cause leading to the effect of the start, that there was no action to bring him into existence, and we have a start coming out of nothing, and that start is something.
@ the OP- That was very cool what you said about how the universe could not go back in time for infinity, because then our time would never be reached. Very cool never considered that before. I completely agree.
Originally posted by Jugg
Who created god then? Surely such an intelligent and complex beeing must have a creator.
According to your silly logic it is.