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Originally posted by BitRaiser
My point is that since Harper is seen as a Bush Buddy, maybe he can be manipulated in the same way. Maybe just dicredit/shame us into getting into lock step with Extreamist Millitant Christian veiw and manipulating us into helping win their war against Mulsims.
[Please note: I do not consiter all Christians to be intolerant pyscopaths. I have, however met more Bad Christians than Bad Muslims, Bad Budists, or Bad Pegans. Ok, I've met a lot of "bad" Pegans, but it was "bad" in a fun way.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Originally posted by BitRaiser
My point is that since Harper is seen as a Bush Buddy, maybe he can be manipulated in the same way. Maybe just dicredit/shame us into getting into lock step with Extreamist Millitant Christian veiw and manipulating us into helping win their war against Mulsims.
We have no war against Muslims. Stop spreading disinfo.
[Please note: I do not consiter all Christians to be intolerant pyscopaths. I have, however met more Bad Christians than Bad Muslims, Bad Budists, or Bad Pegans. Ok, I've met a lot of "bad" Pegans, but it was "bad" in a fun way.
What an interesting comment. Are the "Bad Muslims, Budists (Buddhists?) and Pegans (Pagans?) also "intolerant psycopaths?"
To all:
The Pope is a toothless old figurehead with no actual power, outside of what members of the RCC give him. Those that need a spiritual leader and choose him as theirs are the only ones affected. Pretty much the same as all Christian sects, Muslims, and others. So to get all worked up about what he says is silly.
Originally posted by WalkInSilence
Originally posted by interestedalways
Not all Catholics are bad people of course just brainwashed and wanting something to believe in
Thank You Interested, I'm catholic and we don't all fallow the pope religiously, shhh don't tell anyone
No seriously I was a postulate(prior to entering) in a contemplative order for several years, a devote catholic and I promise you they and many other catholics did not bow to the doctrine of the church.
500 years ago they would have been burned at the stake.
I am still devoted.
WIS
posted by BitRaiser
My biggest beef with the issues that the Pope brought up are that they are antiquated and can be rationally dismissed. [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by donwhite
I have thought if the Church opened the election of the next pope to the 1.2 billion Catholics around the world, the Church could be one fo the more beneficial organizations on the planet. With computers and the internet, it could be done. The first round would let any Catholic vote for anyone. To reduce fraud, the voting would be held in churches where the members would be able to determine who got to vote.
posted by Relentless
Why don't we start by making general voting work where it is already being used. We haven't eliminated fraud, we haven't even gotten a system that allows joe public to cast a ballot fully armed with the truth about their choices of candidate.
Originally posted by BitRaiser
Yup... I'm ticked:
TORONTO -- Pope Benedict sparked a debate about the place of religious beliefs in Canadian politics yesterday, telling Ontario bishops Canada has excluded "God from the public sphere" with laws supporting same-sex marriage and abortion.
Source
I'm proud of the fact that Canada keeps Church and state seperate. I'm proud that we allow our people to make their own choices (it's called FREEDOM!). I do NOT apressiate his Popal-highness dictating to us how we should live and how to run our damned countery.
We aren't all Christians here. We don't confuse the laws of man and the laws of God(s). Our elected officals aren't toadies to the Evengelicals.
If the Pope doesn't like it, tough. It's our country and we are FREE to run it how we see fit.
Originally posted by BitRaiser
Yup... I'm ticked:
I'm proud of the fact that Canada keeps Church and state seperate. I'm proud that we allow our people to make their own choices (it's called FREEDOM!). I do NOT apressiate his Popal-highness dictating to us how we should live and how to run our damned countery.
We aren't all Christians here. We don't confuse the laws of man and the laws of God(s). Our elected officals aren't toadies to the Evengelicals.
If the Pope doesn't like it, tough. It's our country and we are FREE to run it how we see fit.
Originally posted by spencerjohnstone
And yes I agree the pope should keep his opinions to himself, unless he is directing his views to Catholics in Canada. What any other religion does should not have his concern.
The pontiff told a group of seven visiting bishops in Vatican City that Canadian Catholic politicians are ignoring the values of their religion, yielding to "ephemeral social trends and the spurious demands of opinion polls."
With each meeting, his comments have become more pointed. The Ontario meeting is the first in which he called on bishops to use their influence with politicians by urging them to consider religious values when making decisions, not just public opinion polls and social trends.
Pope asks bishops to lobby our MPs
Originally posted by interestedalways
Besides IMO the Catholics took God out of the Church a long time ago and replaced the male god with Mary and baby Jesus images everywhere to worship. Maybe they won't have women priests because they think woman is an incubator for birthing their seed and if she was to find her real power she would blow him out of the water spiritually and maybe expose the lie of their real goddess sun worshipping scheme clothed in old white men's clothes that like to have sex with young boys right at the age that their essence is most powerful and pure.
Originally posted by masqua
I don't think the important fact was that he was talking to canadian bishops, but that it was more what he said to those bishops...
From the original link
The pontiff told a group of seven visiting bishops in Vatican City that Canadian Catholic politicians are ignoring the values of their religion, yielding to "ephemeral social trends and the spurious demands of opinion polls."
What the pontiff is doing is prompting those bishops to influence the Catholic politians.
That is meddling in Canadian politics, no matter how you slice and dice it.
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fixed 'ex' tags
[edit on 11-9-2006 by masqua]
Originally posted by spencerjohnstone
Canada is a great country from what I have seen. You lot have your problems just as the rest of the world. Still a great Country though