Pope Sticks his Nose were it Doesn't Belong (attacks Canada), page 2
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reply posted on 10-9-2006 @ 04:38 AM by SkipShipman
There is another angle to this homosexual agenda that people do not realize. It has to do with how the "New World Order," or elite has opened the matter for public discussion, favoring "gay rights," and other things. At the same time Gloria Steinem was sponsored by the CIA. The result of her brand of "feminism," was that two people have to work to earn the same standard of living as one did in previous years. These issues speak to the breakdown of the family. The NWO wants to do this so that it can be the substitute father figure, to make centralized leadership no matter how unequivocally bad for that matter, into the one who "rescues you," and "protects you." In fact it does nothing of the kind! The psychology of it delves into transference and other mechanisms yielding social control and authority from a topheavy hierarchy. Neglecting the stabilizing functions of decentralization, the NWO creates chaos, then steps in later as your "father figure," or benevolent other.

Now when the Pope makes his statements, they are based upon thousands of years of historical experience. You see the cycle we are witnessing is one that civilizations have entered and passed through many times. People are recieving their "homosexual rights," from a governmental agency that is steeped in "political correctness.

There are many other reasons why the Pope is right than only his recent statements illustrate, but his opposition in many reasoned steps is far more profound than anyone realizes. We are living in a period where the breakdown of the family is happening, and it is by design.

If the Pope wants to criticize Canada in particular, he may be missing the point that these things are happening on the basis of an elite agenda and the wrong kind of "New World Order." As long as we live in a free and open society the Pope, and anyone else for that matter should speak freely, from the heart, and from convocations.


reply posted on 10-9-2006 @ 05:43 AM by Relentless
Shall we just take this totally out of context and blow it out of proportion to provide another opportunity for the Catholic haters to spew their venom?

The Pope didn't go to Canada & stand up and address the entire nation. He was addressing his bishops on a visit to Rome. What do you expect him to say to them? Sheesh!

Originally posted by interestedalways
Not all Catholics are bad people of course just brainwashed and wanting something to believe in


Oh really? Thanks for the insult. What makes you such an authority on Catholics?

If the Church is so good at brainwashing they wouldn't have a problem with so many people calling themselves Catholic while blatantly picking and choosing which precepts they follow, then you might have a point. Unfortunately, you are wrong. The very fact that problems exist in the Church proves they aren't brainwashing anyone.

Catholics practice free will. If your free will pulls you away from the teachings of the Church, you are not a Catholic. If you are a Catholic you have chosen to follow the teachings of the Church.

Statements like this are ignorant because they can be only be made by people who don't really know what a Catholic is. I can assure you some of the most devout of them have higher IQ's than the average joe, are incapable of being hypnotised let alone brainwashed and aren't there because they want something to believe in. That would assume they needed something to believe in, and most of them I know don't "need" this, they chose it.

So, let's go back to the original ire of this thread. The Pope reinforces the Church's teachings to all it's leaders as he should. He doesn't single out Canada, this just happened to be the meeting with Canadian bishops. I'm sure he says the same things to plenty of other bishops when it's their turn for their meeting with him.

I really find it amusing how much power so many of you think the Pope has. Half his flock doesn't even follow him. Nothing he says is any different than what the office has always said. If his words were any cause for concern to those who aren't part of his flock, these things he speaks of would not need to be said, because obviously he would be in control in the first place and the situations would not exist. Nothing has changed, no one is threatened, this is not an earth shattering event, so you can all calm down now.



reply posted on 10-9-2006 @ 08:12 AM by donwhite

posted by Duzey

We don't get to vote for our PM. He is simply the person the party who has the most seats has chosen to lead them. [Edited by Don W]


OK. I’ve come to admire that system. America is stuck with an unpopular leader until a fixed date, January 20, 2009. That can be very bad for the country. In any “lame duck” situation. More so in this one. OTOH, I do think the Canadian voters are pretty certain which of the party leaders will become the next PM, so that may have some influence on how they decide to vote. The Brits are tap-dancing now, how to get rid of Tony Blair without the government falling. They don’t want elections in the short term. I suspect Labor wants to hold on until after the US election on November 7, at the minimum for Blair's departure.


Nobody is imposing anything on the Catholic church. They are free to deny ordination to women, kick out members who have had divorces


While you are exactly correct on the legal conditions that exist today, there is a new school of legal principles that says “no” to the old accepted notion that a private organization can do anything it wants to its members. As the notion of human rights expands even if the reality does not, a large organization partakes of the public weal despite its claim of being private and therefore beyond any laws; in the case of religions, laws of men. We all know in Barry Goldwater’s heart of hearts, that all laws are laws of men however they are denominated or represented.

Aside: The best newscast ever was the 1980s CBC Sunday Morning radio program. It was played on our PBS from 6 AM to 8 AM, the first hour re-played making a 3 hour program covering 2 hours of news. Most American newscasters are fond of asking the survivors of anything “how did you feel” when you saw your family member cut in half? Or similar trite.

I measure any newscast by how much more I know about the topic after the newscast than I knew before, or how much trivial material did I learn verus hard facts to help me be a good citizen? It is rare to learn anything useful in an American newscast. I do listen to BBC every day at 6 PM.

Is that CBC program on the air today?



[edit on 9/10/2006 by donwhite]


reply posted on 10-9-2006 @ 08:57 AM by Vitchilo

He served honorably in the Wehrmacht. 2 years. As most German youth were required to do. Ohh, and also, as most American youth were required to do. And etc.

www.worldwar2database.com...
[edit on 9/9/2006 by donwhite]


Anyway, I always thought that the Vatican loved and hated the nazi because they were killing jews, because catholic church are openly anti-jews since a lot of time. But since the creation of Israël and the stupid things about apocalypse... they now kind of ``back`` Israël because in their stupid version of apocalypse, all jews will die, except 130.000 who will convert to christianity... So by their own saying, they don't care about jews lives.

So the youth of the pape in the Wehrmacht under Hitler isn't very important for the christians autorities.

[edit on 10-9-2006 by Vitchilo]


reply posted on 10-9-2006 @ 01:12 PM by Naya
Hi Naya ..new to this board

I happen to just come back from Canada as an outsider I walked the streets of Toronto / Ontario..what my eyes saw..my heart felt and my ears heard were the most horrible story including proofs of the Dark world this city represents..the streets are filled with beggars-drugs addicted-zombie state humans..who act and react like absolute programmed robbots-..who are not that allert in regards to what happens around them-when asked a question about 50% answers clear and knowingly the other 50% needs 3 to 6 seconds to absorb the question to be able to react..racism in this city and within the working unions is very clear..classification a absolute fact..religious houses which are not..yongstreet a very bad street..voodoo rituals everywhere..fear of bad spirits very much present as well as the knowing of the practice of bad witch craft..one part of the humans living within this absolute controlled very much looking like Tokyo was used as an example in order to create a 5fth Ellement structured very much resembling that what is called Alien Nation., humans do Not know anything..[ many reasons for this].Titanium and Granite Stones everywhere..A True Dark City with a very Labyrinth structured Layout..filled with head offices and very interesting Art-Crafts-Scytian symbols..as well as proof of the knowledge of Alchemy and Magic.

A city with the worst food I have ever seen..nothing is natural..genetic madness everywhere..hardly any birds..almost death looking soil ..many feel bad..as many feel good..the many drug addicts have history's to tell which pertain to child sacrifice Magic Satanism..many pedophiles bring in children ..when these children reach the age of puberty they mostly will be out in the streets..many handicapped peoples..many wheelchairs..getto's poverty..forced labour underpaid jobs for the normal class..Alice In WonderLand hotels..pedophile locations-heaven

I place where the firts 3 minute long moving pictures where shown..which now shows a financial heaven with man on it that looks like a very American worshipped father...

This and more is what the Ratzinger is reffering to..

The Pope is trying to tell you people [ no offens intended] something ..



[edit on 10-9-2006 by Naya]


reply posted on 10-9-2006 @ 01:43 PM by masqua
Originally posted by BitRaiser

TORONTO -- Pope Benedict sparked a debate about the place of religious beliefs in Canadian politics yesterday, telling Ontario bishops Canada has excluded "God from the public sphere" with laws supporting same-sex marriage and abortion.

Source



Ah, the great cycle at work.

I'm put in mind of all those long departed black frocked priests of the 15th century fervently shoving European Christianity down the throats of Native American tribes, from South America to the Canadian hinterlands.

Ah, but now the flocks have strayed and stern accusations once again eminate from the throne of His Eminence, the Pope in Rome.

My pagan roots quake ...not.

[sarcasm]
Imagine the horror...people thinking for themselves and being allowed to by a permissive satanic culture in Canadian Religions/Politics? Unthinkable...

Herd those wayward sheep back into the fold, before they contaminate the populations beyond your control and have a few public displays, like floggings or dunkings...you know, the mild stuff once used after burning at the stake fell out of fashion.[/sarcasm]

~~~~~~~~~~~~
removed 'Ratsy' from the sarcasm bit



[edit on 10-9-2006 by masqua]
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