Originally posted by pavil
Are you proposing that Moses and the tribes of Israel that came into the "promised land" are Zionists?
No. A Zionist is after a physical plane, survey it and put up check points and stakes; nation. A follower of Moses is after a network of
friends/family that as a whole recognize that we are one people, dwelling within one garden; a nation.
Both traditions trace their roots to Abraham, correct? Moses, correct? I believe Noah Bible edition is Noah Koran edition. No?
To state that Jewish people do not have a historical record of being in the land that is currently the State of Israel as a predominantly Jewish state
that stretches back at least 2,000+ years boggles me.
They were there... Jews,
Some (Jews) came to believe that Jesus was the Messiah
Some (Jews) came to believe Mohammad was the Prophet
Some jews, some christian, others muslim.
Abraham, Abraham, Abraham.
One family lived in the region. Zionist opportunistically turned one side against the other and ousted the muslims from, stakes and borders, Israel.
And filled the area with brainwashed homeless post WWII/Concentration camp Jews.
On the flip side, one could contend using your logic that since the Palestinians of the region have never had an actual country to call their
own, they also do not have a claim to the land. I mean there is no historical record of a Palestinian Arab run Country in the region of
Right... "Some of them Judaic, some Christian, others Muslim, all Abraham".
Palestine is just a "spritual nation" not an actual physical one. Palestine as a State is just as much of an "ILLUSION" as you claim Israel to be
using your logic.
WIKIPEDIA (Ariel Sharon)
On his settlement policy, Sharon said while addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party: "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian)
hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to
40 years later he is Prime Minister of a nation that did not exist.
It is the Zionist that created the boundary between Muslim and Jew.
Us vs. Them.
Either you're with us or against us.
Prior to 1948 they lived amongst one another... Big Brother comes in and pulls a Plessy v. Ferguson
ousts the Muslims from stake-and-boundary-Israel and militaristically defends the seperatism.
I sense bad mojo from that.
I don't care what happened to "The Jews" during the Holocaust, militarily ousting people that get down and pray 3 times a day so Jews can have a
new home is not the answer. Now if Germany had stood up and said... yeah the Holocaust was pretty harsh... we're going to ceceed 40,ooo acres to
create a reservation for the Jews... and the German people were all for it... That would have been a Grace. The Jews would get their Israel. God
wouldn't send children with bombs strapped to their chest. But no... the UN forced out another holy people out to encamp Jewish refugees with
the intention to set up a shadow governement to promote NWO/Globalism in the Middle East.